One of the aspects of "academic donaldism" I like the most is the constant mapping of family trees, and trying to glue disparate stories by different authors in different regions in different decades into a cohesive continuity- not out of a NEED for a cohesive continuity (maybe as a teen that'd have been my motivation), but simply because sometimes the forced joining of these disparate elements suggests very interesting stories.
One such example, the question of Glittering Goldie having a grand-daughter she sends to live with Scrooge, something Scarpa wrote in the 60's, being looked at from a post-Rosa, post-"Scrooge and Goldie are a destined, tragic pairing" world. I don't want to see someone acknowledge this out of a need to acknowledge it due to continuity, but because I think a Rosa-esque Scrooge dealing with Goldie having offspring of her own is an interesting potential story hook.
All this to say, I doodled the start of a Goldie O'Gilt family tree, from the perspective of Paperetta/Dickie.
The interesting one here, to me, is her Uncle Papudo. This is a character that was never used, as far as I know, except in a promotional character list when Brazil reinvented Dickie for a new line of stories focusing on teenagers in Duckburg.
Appreciate it, that's Papudo's only appearance. Yet the idea is interesting, if you like the idea of an "expanded Dickie Duck universe" (oh lord) as much as me. Is he somehow one of Goldie's sons? Did Goldie have a daughter who married a pelican, and this is his brother? someone get me writing these comics in an official perspective aaaaaaaa
That sure is interesting, The KKM! Makes you wonder why Goldie dropped her granddaughter off at Scrooge's, rather than her own relative. Did you know that, in "Paperetta e la leggenda del luna park" (https://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++759-B), written by Scarpa himself, Dickie refers to Huey, Dewey and Louie as her cousins? Maybe you could add them into the tree, too (even though they would be very hard to fit into the tree). coa.inducks.org/hr.php?normalsize=1&image=http://outducks.org/webusers/webusers-char0/it_gcd_192f_001_pye.jpg
Slightly off-topic: As you may remember, I constructed a few family trees of classic Disney characters on the original forum (most of which can be viewed here: disney.wikia.com/wiki/User:Scroogerello ). Shortly before the original DCF "ceased to be", I remember you were constructing a Joe Carioca famly tree. Could you post that one on this forum (since the original post at DCF is probably lost)? I haven't seen it in a while, but I really did like it.
--Scroogerello
Last Edit: Jan 29, 2016 18:29:24 GMT by Scroogerello
I don't think that instance is meant to be taken literally, although I'd have to confirm with someone who reads Italian Duck stuff in their native language to know (I'll probably go ask at Papersera with my broken Italian!). I imagine it's more an instance that the kids, as a group, are known as "nephews", and thus she calls them that- in the same way you'll see Gyro call Scrooge "Uncle".
As for the Carioca family tree which I'll keep pretending isn't by me because I don't want to directly admit to scanlating stories :V sure, I'll open a thread for it. It's still missing some family members, but that's dependent often in the ability to find Brazilian scans to reference.
Post by Scrooge MacDuck on Jan 30, 2016 13:43:10 GMT
About the "cousin" business: some people thought of using this as an argument that Dickie was Scrooge's illegitimate granddaughter, but there's a much simpler and PC explanation: she's Dickie Duck, after all. Chances are, her mother was a O'Gilt, and her father was some distant relative of Donald Duck. But anyway, here's my version of the family tree:
Had to do some snooping, but found the image you wanted to post at a right size
Should be pointed out, Papudo is not a duck. Now, in neither Italian nor Portuguese is her name "Duck", so that's irrelevant, but if you want to take the literal path of her being named Duck because, well, she's a duck, then Papudo's not related to her by her father- maybe by the mother (IE he's Goldie's son)? Maybe Mr. Duck has a sibling, and said sibling is married to Papudo?
Post by Scrooge MacDuck on Jan 30, 2016 15:47:32 GMT
Well, I take Duck as a family name, i.e. even if she was still a duck, Dickie would have no business being called Duck if her father was named Jones. Besides, Goldie is a duck too, so him being her son does not make more sense. I could, however, go for the "step brother" option, but you see, I was kinda working on the idea that he's a nephew of Moby Duck, who does look a bit of a bird/pelican hybrid.
Post by Scrooge MacDuck on Jan 30, 2016 16:28:54 GMT
Not that I know of, but to answer I had to look up Goldie on INDUCKS and I found something pretty interesting: seems that aside from Scarpa's "Arriva Paperetta Yé-Yé", Goldie's second appearance was in a brazilian comic (here: coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=B+770076). According to the INDUCKS description, it's a flashback story about Scrooge's youth in the Klondike… many years before "Life and Times". That must be of some interest, because it was published before the cut flashback pages of "Back to Klondike" were released… which means that Euclides K. Miyaura (our artist here) must have imagined his own rendering of what Young Goldie may have looked like, based only on Barks and Scarpa's old version. I wonder how far (or close) to the mark he got. Additionally, the same writer did another story (https://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=B+780195) but with another artist, a year later.
But no, otherwise nothing in the INDUCKS description hints at other O'Gilt characters.
Post by Scrooge MacDuck on Feb 1, 2016 21:06:24 GMT
By the way, I looked up the other family trees you posted the link to. They're awesome ! (though I probably would've included Minima De Spell as the daughter of a second brother of Magica, as Poe looks pretty bachelory to me, and I wonder what you do with the Phantom Blot's other set of parents seen in "Mickey Mouse Works").
EDIT: Also: GLOMGOLD'S PARENTS DRAWN BY MARCO ROTA ? WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE FROM ?
By the way, I looked up the other family trees you posted the link to. They're awesome ! (though I probably would've included Minima De Spell as the daughter of a second brother of Magica, as Poe looks pretty bachelory to me, and I wonder what you do with the Phantom Blot's other set of parents seen in "Mickey Mouse Works").
EDIT: Also: GLOMGOLD'S PARENTS DRAWN BY MARCO ROTA ? WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE FROM ?
Thanks, scroogemacduck (assuming you were referring to these trees: disney.wikia.com/wiki/User:Scroogerello )! I included Minima as a daughter of Poe, since I saw no use in including another (unknown) sibling for Magica, and figured that it would look better on the tree. But you're right; it may make more sense if Minima were the daughter of another of Magia's siblings, and the niece of both Magica and Poe. The scans of Glomgold's parents (which were provided by a member at the Disney Comics Forum - I actually haven't read the story yet) are from this story, indeed drawn by Marco Rota: coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=D+2012-059&redirected=1 .