Post by RobbK1 on Aug 5, 2016 7:52:34 GMT
Although this topic was started in a trolling action, and put into the trash, I think it is a viable topic for discussion here, so I resurrected it:
Aug 3, 2016 at 4:57pm jubalpomp said:
I think you're... Wrong?
Mice and ducks are almost equally popular.
Aug 3, 2016 RobbK1 said:
That depends upon the country. I live and work in The Netherlands, Germany Denmark and Sweden, and spend some time in Norway, Canada and USA. I know that in Italy, Mickey Mouse is very popular (probably as much as Donald. But, they have a long tradition , since the 1930s, of Disney Comics, and, at least through the '30s and '40s, Mickey was more popular.
But, as I remember, the big draw of readers to Disney Comics when they started in Scandinavia near the end of the 1940s, and in The Netherlands and Germany near the beginning of the 1950s, was Carl Barks' Duck stories. In those Northern European countries, they were never really introduced to the longer Gottfredson Mickey stories. But, they only, very slowly, got some Murry stories (and not the good Murry serialised ones, until the second generation of readers. So, in those countries Donald got a giant head start.
In Canada and USA in the '40s and '50s, Barks was the favourite. But, I, myself, got an early introduction to Gottfredson's long stories, reprinted in Mickey Mouse and, mainly, in Walt Disney's Comics and stories during the 1940s. There were also Gottfredson stories redrawn, by Bill Wright ,and Dick Moores, and, I think Murry did one or two, and some other Western artists. They didn't look quite as nice as Gottfredson's. But, the art was still good, and the stories were great. So, I loved Barks' Ducks a lot. But, I also liked Mickey Mouse stories.
From, what I remember of Mexican Tio Rico and Pato Donald, The Ducks were much more popular among readers, than The Mouse stories. I'm not sure about Brasil. But, I think that in the '50s and '60s, both Duck stories and mouse stories were popular. But, neither as much as José Carioca. I assume that in Greece, the taste was similar to that of Italy, and BOTH Mouse and Duck stories were popular.
In Scandinavia,Germany and The Netherlands, there were a LOT more Duck stories printed than Mouse, and whole generations of readers knew only that late Murry stories (whose artwork was nowhere near as good as his early '50s work, nor Gottfredson's work, and also Egmont hired The Tello Team to make lots of new Mickey stories, which ended up with art modeled after Murry's late art, and the stories were very weak (in my opinion) - and so, Mickey's popularity fell off even more.
Currently, Egmont has Noel Van Horn, Cesar Ferioli, and a few other artists drawing mickey in the older style, and the stories have him being adventurous again. Those stories are much more likeable. It is hoped that Mickey's popularity will increase.
Aug 3, 2016 at 4:57pm jubalpomp said:
I think you're... Wrong?
Mice and ducks are almost equally popular.
Aug 3, 2016 RobbK1 said:
That depends upon the country. I live and work in The Netherlands, Germany Denmark and Sweden, and spend some time in Norway, Canada and USA. I know that in Italy, Mickey Mouse is very popular (probably as much as Donald. But, they have a long tradition , since the 1930s, of Disney Comics, and, at least through the '30s and '40s, Mickey was more popular.
But, as I remember, the big draw of readers to Disney Comics when they started in Scandinavia near the end of the 1940s, and in The Netherlands and Germany near the beginning of the 1950s, was Carl Barks' Duck stories. In those Northern European countries, they were never really introduced to the longer Gottfredson Mickey stories. But, they only, very slowly, got some Murry stories (and not the good Murry serialised ones, until the second generation of readers. So, in those countries Donald got a giant head start.
In Canada and USA in the '40s and '50s, Barks was the favourite. But, I, myself, got an early introduction to Gottfredson's long stories, reprinted in Mickey Mouse and, mainly, in Walt Disney's Comics and stories during the 1940s. There were also Gottfredson stories redrawn, by Bill Wright ,and Dick Moores, and, I think Murry did one or two, and some other Western artists. They didn't look quite as nice as Gottfredson's. But, the art was still good, and the stories were great. So, I loved Barks' Ducks a lot. But, I also liked Mickey Mouse stories.
From, what I remember of Mexican Tio Rico and Pato Donald, The Ducks were much more popular among readers, than The Mouse stories. I'm not sure about Brasil. But, I think that in the '50s and '60s, both Duck stories and mouse stories were popular. But, neither as much as José Carioca. I assume that in Greece, the taste was similar to that of Italy, and BOTH Mouse and Duck stories were popular.
In Scandinavia,Germany and The Netherlands, there were a LOT more Duck stories printed than Mouse, and whole generations of readers knew only that late Murry stories (whose artwork was nowhere near as good as his early '50s work, nor Gottfredson's work, and also Egmont hired The Tello Team to make lots of new Mickey stories, which ended up with art modeled after Murry's late art, and the stories were very weak (in my opinion) - and so, Mickey's popularity fell off even more.
Currently, Egmont has Noel Van Horn, Cesar Ferioli, and a few other artists drawing mickey in the older style, and the stories have him being adventurous again. Those stories are much more likeable. It is hoped that Mickey's popularity will increase.