I did this thread in the old Disney comics forum as well. Do you think comics' Donald has the same voice as in the cartoons? I think not, since nobody notes a weird voice and he never has any communication problems.
Post by Scrooge MacDuck on Aug 22, 2016 15:41:12 GMT
I, for one, do think he has basically the same voice as in the cartoons, although maybe a little more distinct (kinda like in Kingdom Hearts maybe).
It's not noted as weird because other Ducks have this voice too (it's normal for anthropomorphic ducksl). Not all of them, but some (like Huey Dewey and Louie, Quackmore Duck…)
We certainly get the impression that Donald has his usual voice in the recent translation of The Call of C'rruso in Donald Duck #16 from IDW. The script described it as "brassy", but when Donald's nephews tampered with the atomizer to sabotage his new singing voice, the script has him coughing and going "WAK! WAK! WAK!" before he is back to his awful singing voice again.
I'm sure I said this on DCF, as well, but in my mind Donald is not talking like cartoon-Donald in the comics. There are definitely some story scripts where he has speeches that I can't imagine him getting through in the cartoon-voice. For me, the cartoon-voice belongs to cartoon-Donald, who is a different character from comics-Donald. I've never particularly liked cartoon-Donald as a character. I'm usually rooting for Chip 'n' Dale.
I also don't "hear" HD&L talking in quacky voices. Quackmore and Donald may both WAK when they're mad, but that doesn't lead me to believe they sound like cartoon-Donald.
I'm sure I said this on DCF, as well, but in my mind Donald is not talking like cartoon-Donald in the comics. There are definitely some story scripts where he has speeches that I can't imagine him getting through in the cartoon-voice. For me, the cartoon-voice belongs to cartoon-Donald, who is a different character from comics-Donald. I've never particularly liked cartoon-Donald as a character. I'm usually rooting for Chip 'n' Dale.
I also don't "hear" HD&L talking in quacky voices. Quackmore and Donald may both WAK when they're mad, but that doesn't lead me to believe they sound like cartoon-Donald.
I agree 100%, Comics-Donald and Cartoon-Donald are not the same character in my mind either. It's hard to explain and the separation is indistinct, I'll admit, but among other things, Cartoon-Donald cavorts with Mickey, Goofy, and Chip 'n' Dale, and Comics-Donald associates with Scrooge, Gyro and Gladstone. And whereas Cartoon-Donald's voice is a signature characteristic of his profile (there have been several cartoons and jokes about how he is hard to understand), it is not even something that even seems worthy of mention in Comics-Donald's case. That said, I wonder if Barks thought Comics-Donald spoke with Cartoon-Donald's voice; he has the Larkies call Donald "Quackyface" in "The Golden Fleecing" (based purely on the way he sounded when he was screaming at them).
The above explanation of my interpretation of the distinction between the two "Donalds" notwithstanding, I can't abide a situation where even an animated version of Comics-Donald, such as one we may see in what, so far, appears to be a highly Barksian universe in the forthcoming DuckTales reboot, has anything other than the classic quacky voice that has long been associated with Cartoon-Donald. I understand that I should have no issue with their replacing his incomprehensible (to many) squawking with a more "normal" voice if Cartoon-Donald and Comics-Donald are different characters, but somehow that still seems unacceptable. I can't really explain it.
As to the "WAK"s, even characters that don't traditionally have quacky voices in animation, like Scrooge, utter that phrase, so I don't think it necessarily can be taken as evidence of anything.
Post by Scrooge MacDuck on Aug 23, 2016 18:49:44 GMT
I don't think Barks thought of Cartoon-Donald and Comics-Donald as different characters; he went from one to the other without much separation at the beginning of his career. "Modern Inventions" could just as well be a 1940's Donald comic, and the reverse is true of many of his Donald/HDL one-pagers.
As for your explanation… I can see your point of view, but I don't agree with it. I always think of an extended Disney universe, where Gladstone, Chip'n'Dale and Madam Mim could run into each other unsurprisingly.
Their difference is Cartoon Donald doesn't talk that much; his stories are based mainly on visual gags. At comics, the needs are different. If those stories were converted into cinema/tv material, i'm sure Donald wouldn't have the same voice as in the cartoons.
Their difference is Cartoon Donald doesn't talk that much; his stories are based mainly on visual gags. At comics, the needs are different. If those stories were converted into cinema/tv material, i'm sure Donald wouldn't have the same voice as in the cartoons.
when I read the comics I just can't imagine it in the classic cartoon Donald voice. But I did once have a co-worker borrow one of my Carl Barks collections and she said she had a hard time reading it because she couldn't stop reading it in his voice and some sentences just didn't make sense. Glad my relationship with donald is mostly through comics not cartoons.
when I read the comics I just can't imagine it in the classic cartoon Donald voice. But I did once have a co-worker borrow one of my Carl Barks collections and she said she had a hard time reading it because she couldn't stop reading it in his voice and some sentences just didn't make sense. Glad my relationship with donald is mostly through comics not cartoons.
Oh? That's odd -- imagining the characters speaking with their cartoon voices has never bothered me, except for one, Scrooge, whose voice I imagined higher-pitched (more like his French voice actor: here's an episode of DuckTales in French if you want to hear for yourself)