Post by Baar Baar Jinx on Mar 13, 2017 15:27:25 GMT
I watched the trailer again and a few things struck me that I didn't notice before. Firstly, it appears that not only do HD&L not know Scrooge at the beginning of this series, but they don't even know he's related to them ("Scrooge McDuck? The bajillionnaire?""Are you really our uncle?"). Donald appears to have been keeping this little fact a secret. Maybe we'll see him finally describe the relationship through the Rosa family tree? Also, in the scene where the nephews are being shown around McDuck manor by a crotchety, feeble old Scrooge, it's Mrs. Beakley, not Donald, who brings up the rear. Looks like Donald is leaving them in Scrooge's care and splitting again, though hopefully not for as long a time (eventually he does come back and become a regular character on the show). In the original series, Mrs. Beakley was hired to be HD&L's nanny, but since they presumably don't need one here (since they still live with Donald), will she be recast as his estate manager or some such role?
Post by Scrooge MacDuck on Mar 13, 2017 19:32:10 GMT
The easiest way to explain her presence would be as a housemaid, which is presumably the role she took after Donald's return in the 'normal' DuckTales continuity.
In the original series, Mrs. Beakley was hired to be HD&L's nanny, but since they presumably don't need one here (since they still live with Donald), will she be recast as his estate manager or some such role?
Well so far no sight of Duckworth which leds me to belive he's ignored in this series. Maybe the wan't limit the cast only to "Duck"characters?
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Oh, a little side note for the "Donald living in a boat??? Well, I never..." discusion - In the new CGI cartoon "Mickey and the roadster racers" even Donald's car is boat-like.
I guess no 313 in the animated universe...
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Oh, a little side note for the "Donald living in a boat??? Well, I never..." discusion - In the new CGI cartoon "Mickey and the roadster racers" even Donald's car is boat-like.
I guess no 313 in the animated universe...
Uh? Never seen that cartoon. And the 313 was featured in Mickey Mouse Works if memory serves right — not to mention the car in Don Donald was pretty much the debut of the 313.
Oh, a little side note for the "Donald living in a boat??? Well, I never..." discusion - In the new CGI cartoon "Mickey and the roadster racers" even Donald's car is boat-like.
I guess no 313 in the animated universe...
What an ugly car... and for that they threw away 80 years worth of comic continuity and ignored the 313? Bah.
"Mickey and the Roadster Racers is an American computer-animated children's television series produced by Disney Television Animation. It is the successor to Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. The series debuted on Disney Junior in the United States on January 15, 2017."
And the 313 was featured in Mickey Mouse Works if memory serves right
Well, in the Mickey Mouse Works episodes "Mickey's New Car" and "Opposite Town" Mickey is driving a car that could be the 313, even though it has no licence number:
I guess animators were not aware of Mickey's 113 car (which is not as famous and iconic as Donald's 313), so they resorted to giving Mickey a replica of Donald's car. Weird.
not to mention the car in Don Donald was pretty much the debut of the 313.
Indeed, it's very similar, although slightly longer:
There's no licence number, but the 313 didn't have its licence number either in its first appearances in the newspaper daily strips. In fact, the 1995 story "Paperino e il segreto della 313" (Fabio Michelini/Massimo De Vita) retconned the car from the cartoon into being the 313:
I don't like the fact that Donna Duck is retconned into being Daisy, and I prefer Don Rosa's version where Donald built the 313. But that's another matter.
As far as classic short goes, there is also the unmarked car from Wet Paint (1946):
If the car from Don Donald was similar to the 313, the difference between this one and the 313 is much more noticeable.
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Post by flintheartglomgold on Apr 3, 2017 22:49:51 GMT
Is the fat duck with kilt that appears on the DuckTales trailer is Flintheart Glomgold? I ask because some people say it is Flintheart, but others say it is not as the animator of the re-make said that Glomgold's ethnicity will be different from the original and will not be living in Duckburg, and in one source, it said that was not Glomgold.
In my personal opinion, I think Flinheart should be South African as in the comics as the re-make suppose to be the closest to Barks and Rosa's comics if I recall. Also, Flintheart Glomgold clothing style and beard looks much better than the original DuckTales'.
Is he thus the first Disney duck with non-white coloring? Well, I guess it'll help distinguish him from Donald (whom I always thought he too-closely resembled).
Is he thus the first Disney duck with non-white coloring? Well, I guess it'll help distinguish him from Donald (whom I always thought he too-closely resembled).
I could have done without Fenton and other characters from the original series, given that there are enough characters from the comics to create interesting stories with. Anyway, the King of Rippan Taro has either white or non-white coloring depending on the colorist, even though when he is not white it's implied that the color is just caused by the tanning:
Other antropomorphic birds have been shown with not-white coloring before, but I think they don't count since you specifically mentioned "duck".
Hey, if Lin Manuel-Miranda's name draws in more viewers, I'm all for it! And in general, I approve of diversifying the characters' "ethnicities" (well, they're ducks or dognoses, hence the quotation marks). And I agree with Baar Baar Jinx, the white-feathered Fenton looked too similar to Donald.
Is he thus the first Disney duck with non-white coloring? Well, I guess it'll help distinguish him from Donald (whom I always thought he too-closely resembled).
I could have done without Fenton and other characters from the original series, given that there are enough characters from the comics to create interesting stories with. Anyway, the King of Rippan Taro has either white or non-white coloring depending on the colorist, even though when he is not white it's implied that the color is just caused by the tanning:
Other antropomorphic birds have been shown with not-white coloring before, but I think they don't count since you specifically mentioned "duck".
There are others, minor though they may be. For instance, in that one somewhat-offensive 40's Barks story with the Pygmy Ducks, said Pygmy Ducks had Daffy Duck-style black fur. The same goes for a random extra in that 1944 Chase Craig story. There may be other such cases of black people's duck equivalent having black feathers. Also, it doesn't denote ethnicity, but Dugan Duck/Biquinho frequently has yellow feathers depending on the publication, and even Donald did in the earliest French printings of the Wise Little Hen serial (though you may argue that is too obscure to count).
Anyway, though I don't think the idea of an oddly-colored duck in itself is an inconsistency, I am strongly upset by that reimagining. Can't they leave the classic characters alone, and just make up a new one if they really want to have a token non-white as part of the cast? Though the fact that Fenton is in that darn reboot is something of a relief all the same.
Also, it doesn't denote ethnicity, but Dugan Duck/Biquinho frequently has yellow feathers depending on the publication, and even Donald did in the earliest French printings of the Wise Little Hen serial (though you may argue that is too obscure to count).
I don't know about the coloring in the original American version of The Wise Little Hen, but in Gottfredson's Mickey Mouse Sunday pages the colorists wanted to use as much color as possible (maybe to contrast the daily strips which were in black and white) and thus colored Donald with yellow feathers, and the earliest Italian printings of these stories did the same thing; it's only when he got his own newspaper comic that Donald started having white feathers.
Incidentally, because of colorists wanting to use as much color as possible, Mickey and other characters had yellow gloves in the Sunday pages (at least, the earliest ones, I don't know if or when they became white) and Italian colorists took inspiration from that, causing characters to have yellow gloves until 1996, when they became white. But maybe that will be topic for another thread.
Oh, and there's an early Italian Gyro story in which, if I remember correctly, he has a pink body.
EDIT: Indeed, as I remembered Gyro has a pink body in his second Italian story (Paperino al Tour, 1954):
Oh, and there's an early Italian Gyro story in which, if I remember correctly, he has a pink body.
EDIT: Indeed, as I remembered Gyro has a pink body in his second Italian story (Paperino al Tour, 1954):
Are we sure those are pink feathers, though? I'd assume it's just bare skin, and in that story Gyro is a kind of bird-dognose or bird-man hybrid rather than a pureblooded bird.