Personally I'm pretending it takes place in the 1940's as a prequel to the original Three Caballeros film, and that HDL were spending the holidays at Grandma's when Donald's house burned down or something. Somewhere off-screen, he phoned or wrote Grandma to tell her to keep the kids a little longer while he found a new stable home for himself; and presumably, as he begins to go on crazy adventures with José and Panchito following Dope-A-Cabana, he'll keep pushing back their return because he doesn't want to get them mixed up in this increasingly dangerous business.
Though April, May and June seem rather too old for the 1940's, don't they? But I'm sure you'll find a way to fit it all together in your amazing headcanon concatenation.
In my headcanon, the original Three Caballeros adventures (as Rosa refers back to them, and as they are vaguely suggested in the movie) took place before HDL came to live with Donald. So I can't fit it together with AMJ being the age they are in LTC, though that doesn't bother me--I'm still glad they're using AMJ.
Though April, May and June seem rather too old for the 1940's, don't they? But I'm sure you'll find a way to fit it all together in your amazing headcanon concatenation.
“Amazing headcanon concatenation” is a wonderful phrase. As for AMJ's age… they're not, as far as I can see, meant to be older than usual, in the way DT17's HDL are; just pulled more towards teenager than kid in general feel because that's what the (studio execs think the) customer wants. I'm assuming these are ‘meant’ to be the present-day AMJ, who are the same age as the nephews. Well, the nephews had just quite reached their frozen absolute-age by 1942-43. So HDL (wherever they are) are the same as AMJ, they would be their classic age in 1942, AMJ are their classic age in Legend, ergo, Legend can theoretically take place in 1942.
Somewhat harder to resolve are the brief appearances by modern technology in the scene where Xandra first looks out the window… but mumblemumble Gyro Gearloose mumblemumble experimental tech within the college mumblemumble.
Though April, May and June seem rather too old for the 1940's, don't they? But I'm sure you'll find a way to fit it all together in your amazing headcanon concatenation.
In my headcanon, the original Three Caballeros adventures (as Rosa refers back to them, and as they are vaguely suggested in the movie) took place before HDL came to live with Donald. So I can't fit it together with AMJ being the age they are in LTC, though that doesn't bother me--I'm still glad they're using AMJ.
Also one would argue that the oryginal movie takes place BEFORE Donald meet Daisy (or at least before they where dating) since Donald spents 2/3 of a movie chasing girls in quite lustfull maner and even Rosa... well... aknowllage that...
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Post by Baar Baar Jinx on Jun 27, 2018 14:45:02 GMT
Three episodes in, I think one major deficiency of LTC is the failure to develop José and Panchito personality-wise. At this point, they still don't have any distinct individual characteristics that come into play during their actual adventures. You could replace them with pretty generic new characters and not lose anything. The pilot episode laid some groundwork (José is a ladies' man and something of a deadbeat, which I understand comports with his comic book portrayal, and Panchito is a reckless daredevil) but it all seems to have fallen by the wayside a bit except perhaps for José being shown to be a little boastful and overconfident (not something that was part of his original portrayal in the '40s, but as we discussed, neither of them had much of a personality in the original movies). Hopefully they'll explore all this further in future episodes, and we'll learn more about their backgrounds. I'm beginning to see why some have said that this show is geared towards a slightly younger audience than DuckTales '17, but in that, I think it's the more worthy successor to DuckTales '87. Also, those who have seen the whole first season have said that the story really picks up and goes into an emotional arc after Episode 6. so we'll see. I do notice that the quality of animation fluctuates a lot; some scenes are as masterful as the classic Disney cartoons, and some are quite choppy.
Also one would argue that the oryginal movie takes place BEFORE Donald meet Daisy (or at least before they where dating) since Donald spents 2/3 of a movie chasing girls in quite lustfull maner and even Rosa... well... aknowllage that...
The issue with that is that Donald and Daisy have often been shown to have known each other since high-school, or even, in some cases, since childhood.
The pilot episode laid some groundwork (José is a ladies' man and something of a deadbeat, which I understand comports with his comic book portrayal, and Panchito is a reckless daredevil) but it all seems to have fallen by the wayside a bit. Hopefully they'll explore all this further in future episodes, and we'll learn more about their backgrounds.
To be fair, that's how I felt about them in some cartoons ("House of Mouse") or even Rosa stories (especialy in the second one) that despite them having their difrent quircks (Jose beings playboy, Panchito cowboy) the two mostly acted like the same character with both being equaly charismatic, optimistic, nice and sometimes cluless/silly. I guess they where ment mostly to play as contrast for Donald's hot-headed nature to play off....
Like Rosa pointed out in his story - part of the fun is to have Donald with two friends who are equaly inteligent and flawed in their own way. They also appear to be equaly greedy/cawordly and work great as a trio.
But yhe I hope they will develop them more as individuals in future episodes. So far, as I mention I noticed a theme of Jose acting like he is specialist in something but geting things wrong. Panchito is also very wacky-energetic, while Jose is laid back/calm.
BTW - Here is an... "interesting" cameo I notcied (look under the door) :
I know that ranger Woodlore will finally snap one day
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BTW - Here is an... "interesting" cameo I notcied (look under the door) : I know that ranger Woodlore will finally snap one day
A living bear that looks like Humphrey does appear in the series (based on screencaps), but we're told by someone who has watched all the episodes that it's not him.
We're probably going to see a lot of references to old Disney cartoons, more than to the comics. I still don't know how the Double Trouble guy (Donald's doppelganger) fits in all this.
Well Daisy left Donald in the first episode so she must be moving on now...
P.S. As a kid I was always thinking that the Double Trouble guy was Gladstone (I mean, yhe Gladstone isn't ment to be Donald's clone but he did played similiar role of being third player in their love tringle and was had similiar style... that was enough for my six year old brain to asume they are the same person )
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Well Daisy left Donald in the first episode so she must be moving on now...
P.S. As a kid I was always thinking that the Double Trouble guy was Gladstone (I mean, yhe Gladstone isn't ment to be Donald's clone but he did played similiar role of being third player in their love tringle and was had similiar style... that was enough for my six year old brain to asume they are the same person )
I've often wondered if the Double Trouble guy inspired Barks to create Gladstone. Although he wasn't used as a rival for Daisy's affections until several stories after his debut, so probably not. Did Barks ever comment on it?
Also, an observation re: the Aracuan Bird, I guess he sort of got an anthropomorphic upgrade; in The Three Caballeros movie and Clown of the Jungle he was some kind of weird MEAS-3 type character (not quite human the way Donald, José and Panchito were) but here he seems to be treated as an equal, i.e., an MEAS-4B.
Bah! In Brazilian stories he goes to school with Dickie Duck
Is he explicitly referred to as "Arcuan Bird" here, or is he supposed to be a new character? Is his past with Donald and his previous incarnation as a species of South American wildlife ever brought up?
I wish we could have seen some of these stories in English. They seem so far removed from the core Duck Universe but are still fascinating in their weirdness.
Bah! In Brazilian stories he goes to school with Dickie Duck
Is he explicitly referred to as "Arcuan Bird" here, or is he supposed to be a new character? Is his past with Donald and his previous incarnation as a species of South American wildlife ever brought up?
I don't believe his past is ever delved into in the Dickie's Gang stories; his weirdness and out-of-placeness kind of being the point of the character; but, I mean, he's as much the same character as Goof Troop's Pete is Pete. The circumstances of the character are different and no one ever expalins how they went from one to the other, but it's still obvious them. But he is named "Aracuan Bird" (or, rather, he has the same Brazilian name used in the Aracuan's original appearances; it's not "Aracuan Bird" and is less clunky as a proper name than "Aracuan Bird" would be).
Mind, his first non-cartoon-adapted appearance, this story, does refer to him as living in the Amazonian jungle, with José envying his fate; but it predates, and is largely unrelated to, the Dickie's Gang stories.
Post by Baar Baar Jinx on Jun 28, 2018 3:15:05 GMT
Another element this show is missing is any meaningful reference to José and Panchito's Latin American heritages (beyond their use of stock phrases) which was such a major part of the original Three Cabarellos movie. Granted, I don't expect it to be the cornerstone of their identities on LTC, since this isn't a cultural goodwill program like the original movie was. But in the pilot, Panchito isn't even familiar with the term "cabarello"! Even the LTC's original Three Caballeros (i.e., Donald, José and Panchito's ancestors) don't seem to have any particular association with Latin America. Seems like a waste of the Three Caballeros idea, unless it comes into play more in further episodes.