female Woodchucks

[Matilda]

I know we talked about this on Disney Comics Forum, but I don't remember whether we've talked about it here.

(1) in Barks's and in Rosa's mid-1900's Duckworld, Junior Woodchucks are boys and the girl scouts are Chickadees (though I cannot resist a shout-out to Barks's earlier Bonfire Girls! I'd much rather be a Bonfire Girl than a Littlest Chickadee!)

(2) in stories by lesser American writers in the 1960's and 1970's, April, May & June were sometimes members of a female scouting organization --no continuity story to story on its name (Red Robins, Nature's Princesses...)

(3) in the stories in the 1990's Italian Junior Woodchucks series (GM), the GM are all male and the girls have their parallel group, the GE

(4) in DuckTales '87, Webby was a Woodchuck

(5) in the USA, the Boy Scouts now also admit girls, though boys and girls are in separate troops; the Girl Scouts of America, a completely separate organization, is still all female; the American scouting organization which used to be Camp Fire Girls (presumably the inspiration for Barks's Bonfire Girls) went co-ed in 1985 and is now called Camp Fire

What's the situation now in Duck comics? How common is it now to show female Woodchucks? I just ran across one instance of a female Woodchuck, in Knut Nærum & Tormod Løkling/Arild Midthun's Northern Blight. The troop they meet in the far-north land includes a girl.

Has DuckTales '17 revealed whether its Junior Woodchucks are co-ed?

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Examination of the Wiki's data shows we don't have records of any other female Woodchucks than Webby. Bugger.

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Mar 14, 2019 19:57:00 GMT Matilda said:

Has DuckTales '17 revealed whether its Junior Woodchucks are co-ed?

I believe they've been shown to be co-ed in the comics.

[deb]

In “Whatever Happened to Della Duck” Della has her Junior Woodchuck’s Guidebook with her on the moon, so I’d say yes, the modern DuckTales has co-ed Woodchucks.

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Mar 14, 2019 20:37:04 GMT deb said:

In “Whatever Happened to Della Duck” Della has her Junior Woodchuck’s Guidebook with her on the moon, so I’d say yes, the modern DuckTales has co-ed Woodchucks.

Of course! How could we forget that!

BTW, I guess we now have confirmation that the book Della was shown to be consulting in the DuckTales '17 "prequel" comic stories was indeed the JWG, as we speculated.

[TheMidgetMoose]

A female Junior Woodchuck appears briefly in "The Day of the Only Child." She is a part of a trio with two male Woodchucks. I believe she was voiced by Tara Platt.

[Matilda]

Thanks, all! So we have established that in the DuckTales '17 universe the Junior Woodchucks are coed, and have been so at least since Della's childhood.

Any other instances of female Woodchucks in the non-DuckTales comics, besides the one I mentioned?

[Matilda]

So, is Nærum & Løkling's female member of the far-north Woodchuck troop possibly the *first* female Woodchuck in non-DuckTales comics? Not counting that story where April snuck in in disguise, keeping her high heels on so you could tell it was her even when you couldn't make out her eyelashes....

[Freddie]

Mar 15, 2019 0:06:18 GMT Matilda said:

Thanks, all! So we have established that in the DuckTales '17 universe the Junior Woodchucks are coed, and have been so at least since Della's childhood.

Any other instances of female Woodchucks in the non-DuckTales comics, besides the one I mentioned?

i now of to female JW members from italian stories


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was working a bit  and i found this picture in a comic book i have

[Matilda]

Jul 10, 2019 23:11:51 GMT Freddie said:

Mar 15, 2019 0:06:18 GMT Matilda said:

Thanks, all! So we have established that in the DuckTales '17 universe the Junior Woodchucks are coed, and have been so at least since Della's childhood.

Any other instances of female Woodchucks in the non-DuckTales comics, besides the one I mentioned?

i now of to female JW members from italian stories


img00.deviantart.net/5dbf/i/2019/191/d/a/4f8a5fe8_d273_4a83_bf8e_656ed7595e7dimage_by_freddiethefixer99-ddbdjph.png

was working a bit  and i found this picture in a comic book i have

Thanks! That picture actually shows the scout leader and one of the girl scouts of the female scouting organization, the GE, in the Giovani Marmotte comics of the 1990's. The GE scout leader is Clarissa Van Scout. I'm not sure which girl that is, but she's a member of the GE, not the GM--note the hat! In American scouting terms, she'd be a Girl Scout; in the Barks or Rosa world, she'd be a Chickadee.

[Freddie]

Jul 10, 2019 23:38:34 GMT Matilda said:

Jul 10, 2019 23:11:51 GMT Freddie said:

i now of to female JW members from italian stories


img00.deviantart.net/5dbf/i/2019/191/d/a/4f8a5fe8_d273_4a83_bf8e_656ed7595e7dimage_by_freddiethefixer99-ddbdjph.png

was working a bit  and i found this picture in a comic book i have

Thanks! That picture actually shows the scout leader and one of the girl scouts of the female scouting organization, the GE, in the Giovani Marmotte comics of the 1990's. The GE scout leader is Clarissa Van Scout. I'm not sure which girl that is, but she's a member of the GE, not the GM--note the hat! In American scouting terms, she'd be a Girl Scout; in the Barks or Rosa world, she'd be a Chickadee.

glad to be of help. according to the swedish stories, her name is bettan and she is a Junior Woodchuck. if i remeber correctly, this information isfrom mostly italian stories. but i might be wrong. anyone else knows more?

[miin95]

Mar 15, 2019 0:06:18 GMT Matilda said:

Thanks, all! So we have established that in the DuckTales '17 universe the Junior Woodchucks are coed, and have been so at least since Della's childhood.

Any other instances of female Woodchucks in the non-DuckTales comics, besides the one I mentioned?

inducks.org/character.php?c=Chickadees&c1=date&pg=1
there are in Netherlands&Denmark 

[Matilda]

Jul 11, 2019 3:27:26 GMT miin95 said:

Mar 15, 2019 0:06:18 GMT Matilda said:

Thanks, all! So we have established that in the DuckTales '17 universe the Junior Woodchucks are coed, and have been so at least since Della's childhood.

Any other instances of female Woodchucks in the non-DuckTales comics, besides the one I mentioned?

inducks.org/character.php?c=Chickadees&c1=date&pg=1
there are in Netherlands&Denmark 

It looks to me like most of these stories feature Woodchucks *and* Chickadees (whatever they're called) as two parallel organizations, male and female. The Easter 2018 one-pager does seem to have male and female Woodchucks; they are lined up in separate groups (if I'm interpreting the picture correctly), but the girls have Woodchuck hats and pennant. Their hats are colored differently, but that's of course a colorist's choice and may not even have been Gentina's intent. Also, I'm interested in the last one on the list, Mix --the summary says that due to financial constraints, the Junior Woodchucks and the Chickadees are going to merge. Can anyone tell me what happens in that story?

Also, Petunia in an Onion Patch sounds like one of those stories where one girl infiltrates the JWs (as April did in an older story). Unless she gets to remain a JW at the end of the story, that doesn't count as a female Woodchuck.

[Matilda]

p.s. If someone could write out for me the dialogue of the Easter 2018 one-pager, I would much appreciate it! (German or Dutch text is fine; Scandinavian languages I'd just have to depend on Google Translate.) I'm sure the dialogue has nothing to do with the gender-of-Woodchucks issue, but I want to keep the story as a rare example of thoroughly integrated Woodchucks. And nobody is selling that issue by itself on German eBay to buyers outside of Germany. The other countries' printings are far less likely to be available to me for sale.

[gadgetphile]

Jul 11, 2019 17:38:38 GMT Matilda said:

p.s. If someone could write out for me the dialogue of the Easter 2018 one-pager, I would much appreciate it! (German or Dutch text is fine; Scandinavian languages I'd just have to depend on Google Translate.) I'm sure the dialogue has nothing to do with the gender-of-Woodchucks issue, but I want to keep the story as a rare example of thoroughly integrated Woodchucks. And nobody is selling that issue by itself on German eBay to buyers outside of Germany. The other countries' printings are far less likely to be available to me for sale.

As you wish.

1: "Junior Woodchucks, you can win this giant chocolateegg. And how? By decorating an egg as original (?)  as possible."
2: "Creative work aren't us." "No, but chocolate is." "We don't have to do anything. I've got an idea."
3: "We'll just have to pay a visit to Gyro Gearloose."
4: "It wasn't easy but we've got a winner."
5: "All the eggs are nice but the jury is most impressed over..."
6: "...Huey, Dewey and Louie's selfdecorating egg."