Another crossover story which Donald meets his younger self "Paperino Paperotto" is "Paperino e gli Amazing Files." He also met their adult selves of Tom, Louis, Millicent and Betty Lou. We'll love to see the crossovers of Young Donald Duck and the classic Paperino Paperotto characters in the future.
Interesting. Do you mean that the two Donald's meet via time travel? Do you have an INDUCKS link for the story?
If I recall the story right, not really- the story's notable for introducing the adult version of Donald's friends from his childhood days, and the crossover element is more just showing a plot from their childhood that influences their adult plot and the comic's showing both at once. Might be remembering wrong though.
I DO recall one Donald Duckling one where he builds a radio that'd been designed by a young Gyro for the Amazing Files magazine they loved, and Gyro'd accidentally made the instructions such that the radio had mild time travel abilities, so Donald Duckling manages to speak through it with Huey, Dewey and Louie while thinking they're aliens
Interesting. I wouldn't say there's anything inherently wrong with having a character from another series show up randomly but it does feel awfully weird and maybe even a little pointless, especially what with whatever continuity issues or MEAS incompatibility may arise. That's not to say such issues arise from the Mad Hatter crossing over with Mickey Mouse, but with other characters, they certainly can.
Well, in the Mad Hatter's case, there actually are a fair few issues. First, Alice in Wonderland does appear to take place in a world where anthropomorphic animals are an absurdity you'll only encounter in Wonderland; if you buy the "filter-theory", that's fine, but otherwise, it isn't. Second, more pointedly, The Phantom Blot's Double Mystery doesn't even begin to explain why the heck the Mad Hatter is out of Wonderland and running a shop in Mouseton like it weren't no thing.
Well, in the Mad Hatter's case, there actually are a fair few issues. First, Alice in Wonderland does appear to take place in a world where anthropomorphic animals are an absurdity you'll only encounter in Wonderland; if you buy the "filter-theory", that's fine, but otherwise, it isn't. Second, more pointedly, The Phantom Blot's Double Mystery doesn't even begin to explain why the heck the Mad Hatter is out of Wonderland and running a shop in Mouseton like it weren't no thing.
The filter theory wouldn't really apply to Alice in Wonderland since everything/one is supposed to be whimsical and fantastic (unlike the Duck/Mouse universes, where the main cast at least could pass for human). But with regards to the Mad Hatter in "The Blot's Double Mystery", IIRC, the English version at least did not explicitly state that this was the Hatter from the movie, instead of, say, a character who is clearly inspired by that Hatter but could be a different individual altogether, i.e., he never mentions Alice, the March Hare or Wonderland (not sure if that was also true of the original). In that case, it wouldn't be any different from Barks' use of a cat who looks like Lucifer (from Cinderella) but isn't identified as such. There would be no MEAS incompatibility since humans do appear, albeit rarely, in the Duck and Mouse universes.
The filter theory wouldn't really apply to Alice in Wonderland since everything/one is supposed to be whimsical and fantastic (unlike the Duck/Mouse universes, where the main cast at least could pass for human).
Except Alice herself. What I meant is that Alice as presented in the movie couldn't be from the Duck universe as I picture it, or else she would think nothing of a rabbit wearing a waistcoat. But in your version of the duck universe, if Donald (really a human who just happens to be drawn as a duck) encountered a real anthropomorphic animal, he'd be just as confused as Alice by the White Rabbit, so Alice could exist in that world.
Interesting. Do you mean that the two Donald's meet via time travel? Do you have an INDUCKS link for the story?
If I recall the story right, not really- the story's notable for introducing the adult version of Donald's friends from his childhood days, and the crossover element is more just showing a plot from their childhood that influences their adult plot and the comic's showing both at once. Might be remembering wrong though.
I DO recall one Donald Duckling one where he builds a radio that'd been designed by a young Gyro for the Amazing Files magazine they loved, and Gyro'd accidentally made the instructions such that the radio had mild time travel abilities, so Donald Duckling manages to speak through it with Huey, Dewey and Louie while thinking they're aliens
In new stories of Young Donald Duck (by Francesco Artibani) he goes to boarding school with his friends. If the modern Paperino Paperotto stories wanted to meet classic Paperino Paperotto in future stories, then the first issue will be greenlit in North America and Italy. Paperino Paperotto fans love these stories.
Interesting. Do you mean that the two Donald's meet via time travel? Do you have an INDUCKS link for the story?
If I recall the story right, not really- the story's notable for introducing the adult version of Donald's friends from his childhood days, and the crossover element is more just showing a plot from their childhood that influences their adult plot and the comic's showing both at once. Might be remembering wrong though.
Ah, I see now. That's not too crazy. Interesting to be sure, but not quite as crazy or mindless as some of the crossovers on this thread.
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A couple of other stories came to mind recently. The Big Bad Wolf has interacted with Donald and Grandma Duck. This felt odd since I always imagined the characters from the Three Little Pigs and Song of the south to be in a separate universe, as eating sentient beings is not considered an abnormality, but would be cannibalism or murder in the Duck/Mouse universe.
Barks had Mickey's nephews meet Gyro once. You could replace them with HDL and it wouldn't make any difference, but Barks for some reason used Morty and Ferdie with Gyro, and never combined these three outside of this story.
A couple of other stories came to mind recently. The Big Bad Wolf has interacted with Donald and Grandma Duck. This felt odd since I always imagined the characters from the Three Little Pigs and Song of the south to be in a separate universe, as eating sentient beings is not considered an abnormality, but would be cannibalism or murder in the Duck/Mouse universe.
It's a long-standing "problem", but the crossover is helped by the fact that while Barks's Donald and Grandma are way more anthropomorphic, the early cartoon Donald of The Wise Little Hen wasn't any less an animal than Zeke Wolf. See also the fact that if Zeke lives in the same forest as the Song of the South characters, and that forest is also the one next to Duckburg that Donald can wander into, this would mean the Song of the South cast don't actually live in the South.
If an explanation must be found, mine is this: this forest which supposedly houses Bambi, and the Seven Dwarfs, and Madam Mim, and the Big Bad Wolf & Co., and the Song of the South cast is a magical forest. The houses of its inhabitants surely don't show up on the inside, and if you wander it deep enough, then in no real sense are you in Calisota anymore. You've entered a sort of fairy realm/pocket dimension where the rules of reality are suspended somewhat. Which includes the fact that anthropomorphic animals act more like animals than they should (Brer Bear/Zeke Wolf) while non-anthropomorphic animals act way smarter than they possibly could (the Bambi cast, etc.) without anyone looking twice.
Barks had Mickey's nephews meet Gyro once. You could replace them with HDL and it wouldn't make any difference, but Barks for some reason used Morty and Ferdie with Gyro, and never combined these three outside of this story.
That was actually not his choice; due to some weird legal hullabaloo, he couldn't use HDL again in that story if it was to be printed as a backup to a longer story already featuring the same characters, so the publisher ordered Barks to switch them out with other characters, and the only ones he could think of was Morty & Ferdie. (Proof enough, once more, that while he didn't regularly use the Mouse cast himself, Barks didn't see a hard line between the Duck and Mouse casts like Don Rosa does.)
But I don't think that qualifies as a "crazy" crossover comic. It's debatable whether Duckburg/Mouseton mixing even counts as a crossover at this point, and even if it does, it makes for a pretty garden-variety one.
Attending that Chip and Dale live clearly in the same universe as Donald, and in the same universe as Bambi & Co., a crossover Forest/Ducks are not particularly bizarre (only perhaps the implicit biology and even legal system).
That was actually not his choice; due to some weird legal hullabaloo, he couldn't use HDL again in that story if it was to be printed as a backup to a longer story already featuring the same characters, so the publisher ordered Barks to switch them out with other characters, and the only ones he could think of was Morty & Ferdie. (Proof enough, once more, that while he didn't regularly use the Mouse cast himself, Barks didn't see a hard line between the Duck and Mouse casts like Don Rosa does.)
Although I recall a comment he once made to the effect that he was afraid his editors wouldn't like his referencing Mickey in a Duck story (the observation may have been made with regard to the Quiz Show story, but I'm not sure).
The "legal hullabaloo" was that for cheaper shipping, WDCS was shipped as a "magazine", not "comic book". It's why it also kept those awful text stories for far too long.
Anyway, as part of that, the stories couldn't really share characters, or the issue would be considered a comic book featuring those characters. The argument was it was a magazine anthology of unrelated characters, not a comic of shared characters. Which is why Gyro got so many stories- they needed something to fill in the magazine that wasn't a character already in the other stories- and it's why in his stories sometimes weird fill-in characters appeared, like Morty and Ferdie, or that infamous story where a random new character dressed as Donald named "Speedy" appears.
Not long later, we meet our villain, who turns out to be the Wicked Witch from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. This could also be seen as weird, but I don't mind it too much. Even Barks used the character (or a pretty close lookalike) in his Golden Christmas Tree story.
It's worth mentioning here that Barks would not have done this of his own volition. Western sent him the storyline for this specific Donald Duck Christmas story. He polished up the script, as per usual in cases like this, but the idea was not his. He also felt the ending (which Western wouldn't allow him to change) was way too moralizing and mushy.
The "legal hullabaloo" was that for cheaper shipping, WDCS was shipped as a "magazine", not "comic book". It's why it also kept those awful text stories for far too long.
Anyway, as part of that, the stories couldn't really share characters, or the issue would be considered a comic book featuring those characters. The argument was it was a magazine anthology of unrelated characters, not a comic of shared characters. Which is why Gyro got so many stories- they needed something to fill in the magazine that wasn't a character already in the other stories- and it's why in his stories sometimes weird fill-in characters appeared, like Morty and Ferdie, or that infamous story where a random new character dressed as Donald named "Speedy" appears.
The whole story behind these changes to various Barks stories in the late 50s and 60s is so bizarre. It seems to say something about why Western's comics output declined. How couldn't it, under work circumstances as absurd as these? Everybody already knew these characters were related and shared the same world; so keeping them separated in different stories just for the principle of it is so frikkin' stupid.
It's not something exclusive to them, to be honest- it was a common format in a lot of other things. Grab any random golden age comic and you'll have the same formula- various comic strips, not sharing characters, one or two text stories. Don't know when exactly it fell out of fashion, probably whenever DC decided to start having their heroes cross over in the same magazine.
It's not something exclusive to them, to be honest- it was a common format in a lot of other things. Grab any random golden age comic and you'll have the same formula- various comic strips, not sharing characters, one or two text stories. Don't know when exactly it fell out of fashion, probably whenever DC decided to start having their heroes cross over in the same magazine.
Well, since cheaper shipping was the reason for it, it certainly makes sense that it happened to more than one comic book. But what I find particularly silly regarding WDC is that Gyro had already been established to inhabit the same world as the ducks. Applying such a strict rule to stories starring him feels pretty dumb, especially when it leads to Barks having to change the duck characters to either random lookalikes or characters he would have never used in a duck story to begin with (Morty and Ferdie).