Post by TheMidgetMoose on Sept 23, 2019 23:52:24 GMT
"My sainted aunt!" is apparently an old-fashioned exclamation, in use since the 1800's according to this; but there exists a Duck universe version of it, the origins of which I am curious of. The Duck version I'm speaking of is the exclamation "Oh, my sainted Aunt Pintail!" I have no idea when this was first used or how many times it was used. I only of two uses of this exclamation in Duck comics: The Village Blacksmithby Carl Barks in 1960, and The Last Sled to Dawsonby Don Rosa in 1988. For reference I have uploaded the relevant panels to Imgur. The Village Blacksmith panel can be seen here, and The Last Sled to Dawson panel can be seen here. Also, it seems that the Blacksmith version reads, "Pin Tail" as opposed to "Pintail".
I was wondering if this was Rosa using a somewhat obscure Barks reference in one of his stories, or if the "oh, my sainted Aunt Pintail!" expression can be seen in other Duck comics. Does anyone know of any other stories where this expression is used?
Also, why "Aunt Pintail"? Why not just plain ole "sainted aunt", as is used in the more common, real-world expression? I know this is a bit of a stretch, but does anyone think this could mean that there was an "Aunt Pintail" in the Duck family who would be sainted by some religion/church/denomination after her death? I guess the more plausible explanation would be that "oh, my sainted Aunt Pintail" is simply the Duck universe's equivalent to "my sainted aunt" and that the expression has no bearing on Duck genealogy whatsoever. What do you guys think?
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"My sainted aunt!" is apparently an old-fashioned exclamation, in use since the 1800's according to this; but there exists a Duck universe version of it, the origins of which I am curious of. The Duck version I'm speaking of is the exclamation "Oh, my sainted Aunt Pintail!" I have no idea when this was first used or how many times it was used. I only of two uses of this exclamation in Duck comics: The Village Blacksmithby Carl Barks in 1960, and The Last Sled to Dawsonby Don Rosa in 1988. For reference I have uploaded the relevant panels to Imgur. The Village Blacksmith panel can be seen here, and The Last Sled to Dawson panel can be seen here. Also, it seems that the Blacksmith version reads, "Pin Tail" as opposed to "Pintail".
I was wondering if this was Rosa using a somewhat obscure Barks reference in one of his stories, or if the "oh, my sainted Aunt Pintail!" expression can be seen in other Duck comics. Does anyone know of any other stories where this expression is used?
Also, why "Aunt Pintail"? Why not just plain ole "sainted aunt", as is used in the more common, real-world expression? I know this is a bit of a stretch, but does anyone think this could mean that there was an "Aunt Pintail" in the Duck family who would be sainted by some religion/church/denomination after her death? I guess the more plausible explanation would be that "oh, my sainted Aunt Pintail" is simply the Duck universe's equivalent to "my sainted aunt" and that the expression has no bearing on Duck genealogy whatsoever. What do you guys think?
The pintail is a kind of duck, but i don't doubt Donald actually HAS an aunt called Pintail. Maybe Barks thought it would be funny for Donald to say "sainted aunt Pintail" because he is a duck (i didn't thought it funny though)
As for your first question, we all know Rosa is Barks' fanboy, so it's very likely that this expression was only used once by Barks and later reused by Rosa. I don't know yet, but i'm searching
"My sainted aunt!" is apparently an old-fashioned exclamation, in use since the 1800's according to this; but there exists a Duck universe version of it, the origins of which I am curious of. The Duck version I'm speaking of is the exclamation "Oh, my sainted Aunt Pintail!" I have no idea when this was first used or how many times it was used. I only of two uses of this exclamation in Duck comics: The Village Blacksmithby Carl Barks in 1960, and The Last Sled to Dawsonby Don Rosa in 1988. For reference I have uploaded the relevant panels to Imgur. The Village Blacksmith panel can be seen here, and The Last Sled to Dawson panel can be seen here. Also, it seems that the Blacksmith version reads, "Pin Tail" as opposed to "Pintail".
I was wondering if this was Rosa using a somewhat obscure Barks reference in one of his stories, or if the "oh, my sainted Aunt Pintail!" expression can be seen in other Duck comics. Does anyone know of any other stories where this expression is used?
Also, why "Aunt Pintail"? Why not just plain ole "sainted aunt", as is used in the more common, real-world expression? I know this is a bit of a stretch, but does anyone think this could mean that there was an "Aunt Pintail" in the Duck family who would be sainted by some religion/church/denomination after her death? I guess the more plausible explanation would be that "oh, my sainted Aunt Pintail" is simply the Duck universe's equivalent to "my sainted aunt" and that the expression has no bearing on Duck genealogy whatsoever. What do you guys think?
The pintail is a kind of duck, but i don't doubt Donald actually HAS an aunt called Pintail. Maybe Barks thought it would be funny for Donald to say "sainted aunt Pintail" because he is a duck (i didn't thought it funny though)
As for your first question, we all know Rosa is Barks' fanboy, so it's very likely that this expression was only used once by Barks and later reused by Rosa. I don't know yet, but i'm searching
Barks had Donald's ancestor sailor that Donald "'became" under hypnotism, call Bos'n Pintail. So, there ARE Pintails (family name) in Donald Duck's family tree.
The pintail is a kind of duck, but i don't doubt Donald actually HAS an aunt called Pintail. Maybe Barks thought it would be funny for Donald to say "sainted aunt Pintail" because he is a duck (i didn't thought it funny though)
As for your first question, we all know Rosa is Barks' fanboy, so it's very likely that this expression was only used once by Barks and later reused by Rosa. I don't know yet, but i'm searching
Barks had Donald's ancestor sailor that Donald "'became" under hypnotism, call Bos'n Pintail. So, there ARE Pintails (family name) in Donald Duck's family tree.
Are you saying that Pintail is a surname? It's believable enough, I guess, though I think Rosa gave his name as Pintail Duck in his tree, for what it's worth.
No matter what I say or do, know that Jesus loves you.
Barks had Donald's ancestor sailor that Donald "'became" under hypnotism, call Bos'n Pintail. So, there ARE Pintails (family name) in Donald Duck's family tree.
Are you saying that Pintail is a surname? It's believable enough, I guess, though I think Rosa gave his name as Pintail Duck in his tree, for what it's worth.
Yes, it's a surname. A type of Duck is generally a Surname, rather than a "Christian" (first) name. Have you seen "Duck", "Coot", "Mallard", "Goose", "Gander", "Drake", and the like used as FIRST names???
Are you saying that Pintail is a surname? It's believable enough, I guess, though I think Rosa gave his name as Pintail Duck in his tree, for what it's worth.
Yes, it's a surname. A type of Duck is generally a Surname, rather than a "Christian" (first) name. Have you seen "Duck", "Coot", "Mallard", "Goose", "Gander", "Drake", and the like used as FIRST names???
Well, a Ducktales 2017 comic did have a Mallard Hitchcock, Darkwing Duck had a J. Gander Hooter, and Drake has been used as a first name in the real-world, though all of those examples arguably don't apply to Barks's Ducks. Also, I've heard that sometimes children are given their mother's maiden names as a first name. I don't how common that is and if it was even heard of in the 1500's or not.
No matter what I say or do, know that Jesus loves you.
Yes, it's a surname. A type of Duck is generally a Surname, rather than a "Christian" (first) name. Have you seen "Duck", "Coot", "Mallard", "Goose", "Gander", "Drake", and the like used as FIRST names???
Well, a Ducktales 2017 comic did have a Mallard Hitchcock, Darkwing Duck had a J. Gander Hooter, and Drake has been used as a first name in the real-world, though all of those examples arguably don't apply to Barks's Ducks. Also, I've heard that sometimes children are given their mother's maiden names as a first name. I don't how common that is and if it was even heard of in the 1500's or not.
Most people didn't even have LAST names (family names) in the 1500s. I met a great, great aunt from among my own family, who was born 9 years BEFORE her family had a family name (surname). The Hungarian Government representative came to her village in 1857 to assign last names to families. Most people don't realise just how short a time this modern World we live in has existed. There were no airplanes, automobiles, and other conveniences when my own grandparents grew up. There was no indoor plumbing for most people. homes were heated by stoves, and animals inside the house in winter. There was no TV in people's homes when I was young. Our toys were all wood and metal. No plastic things. No garbage disposals.
The practise of giving mother's family name as a name that is NOT the final surname, gives it as a name said just before the father's family name. It's not really a "middle name", but rather a second surname, just said before the father's name. In those societies, Spanish, Latin-American, Portuguese, - I believe both family names are of equal importance. In Scandinavia, I believe it is the same. The mother's family name is always a surname, whether it is in the middle or the end of the listed names. I've never heard of parents giving a surname as a first (given) name, except when such names are, and have been for long periods, accepted first names (such as Drake, Hollingsworth, etc.) Those names are just given to babies, not because they were the mother's family name.
Are you saying that Pintail is a surname? It's believable enough, I guess, though I think Rosa gave his name as Pintail Duck in his tree, for what it's worth.
Yes, it's a surname. A type of Duck is generally a Surname, rather than a "Christian" (first) name. Have you seen "Duck", "Coot", "Mallard", "Goose", "Gander", "Drake", and the like used as FIRST names???
Im almost sure "eider" is a type of duck, and we have aunt Eider, sir Eider McDuck, Eider Duck and Grandma's uncle Eider
Yes, it's a surname. A type of Duck is generally a Surname, rather than a "Christian" (first) name. Have you seen "Duck", "Coot", "Mallard", "Goose", "Gander", "Drake", and the like used as FIRST names???
Im almost sure "eider" is a type of duck, and we have aunt Eider, sir Eider McDuck, Eider Duck and Grandma's uncle Eider
You are very correct here. So Pintail can be used as a first (given) name for ducklike people or peoplelike ducks. If you look at my thread in The Lounge (OT Area of The Feathery Society), you can see a "Pintail Duck", character used by a Standard Comics writer and artist.
Post by drakeborough on Sept 24, 2019 21:54:18 GMT
In the Italian edition of "Last Sled to Dawson", the line was translated as "Marinaio Paperinocchio Codacorta, mi affido a te!", which means "Bos'n Pintail Duck, I entrust myself to you!"