Donald's True Debut? & Donald's Birthday

[TheMidgetMoose]

Jun 5, 2020 23:26:24 GMT LP said:

Jun 5, 2020 20:55:54 GMT TheMidgetMoose said:

I think The Adventures of Mickey Mouse came first. Most sources I've seen say that Mickey's 'Hoozoo' Witswitch, And Wotswot
was published in 1932, not 1931. See INDUCKS and the Disneyville blog, for example. Mickey's Hoozoo derives several elements from The Adventures of Mickey Mouse, such as the character of Claws the Cat, who originated in The Adventures of Mickey Mouse as far as I know. What I would be interested in knowing is if the Donald Duck of radio and cartoon was created with the other Donald Duck in mind. When they decided to hire Clarence Nash to voice a duck character, did they use the name "Donald Duck" for this character because it had been used before, or was it a coincidence that the ducks ended up with the same name?

I see! The Disney Wiki page for Dennis the Duck said that More 'HooZoo' was from 1931, so I believed it. 
Since the "Donald Duck" name was repeated at least once before Clarence Nash became involved, I would assume that the name "Donald" was at least semi-established for any potential duck character Disney was about to use. Worth noting is of course that neither The Adventures of Mickey Mouse nor More 'HooZoo' portray Donald as an aggressive and angry duck, which would become some of his defining character traits once Nash started voicing him.

But, hey, if The Adventures of Mickey Mouse is truly Donald's real debut, wouldn't there be some sort of value in finding out when that was first published? The date, I mean. Because that would be Donald's true "birth date". Does anybody know that?

I don't really know the date. I'm the least qualified person to guess the date. However, I wanted to see if a Google search could somehow reveal the date, and I think I might have found it. Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, according to my reading of this (Google Books preview of what is apparently a "Catalog of Copyright Entries" from the Library of Congress), it seems that a "The adventures Mickey Moue. Book 1." book was copyrighted on May 19, 1931. I might have misread that and I might be looking at inaccurate info or just simply the wrong info. I also don't know if the copyright date also coincides with release/publication dates. Hopefully someone else can clear this up, but my best guess right now is May 19, 1931.

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www.cbr.com/donald-duck-comic-book-debut-england-italy/

[RobbK1]

Jun 5, 2020 23:26:24 GMT LP said:

Jun 5, 2020 20:55:54 GMT TheMidgetMoose said:

I think The Adventures of Mickey Mouse came first. Most sources I've seen say that Mickey's 'Hoozoo' Witswitch, And Wotswot
was published in 1932, not 1931. See INDUCKS and the Disneyville blog, for example. Mickey's Hoozoo derives several elements from The Adventures of Mickey Mouse, such as the character of Claws the Cat, who originated in The Adventures of Mickey Mouse as far as I know. What I would be interested in knowing is if the Donald Duck of radio and cartoon was created with the other Donald Duck in mind. When they decided to hire Clarence Nash to voice a duck character, did they use the name "Donald Duck" for this character because it had been used before, or was it a coincidence that the ducks ended up with the same name?

I see! The Disney Wiki page for Dennis the Duck said that More 'HooZoo' was from 1931, so I believed it. 
Since the "Donald Duck" name was repeated at least once before Clarence Nash became involved, I would assume that the name "Donald" was at least semi-established for any potential duck character Disney was about to use. Worth noting is of course that neither The Adventures of Mickey Mouse nor More 'HooZoo' portray Donald as an aggressive and angry duck, which would become some of his defining character traits once Nash started voicing him.

But, hey, if The Adventures of Mickey Mouse is truly Donald's real debut, wouldn't there be some sort of value in finding out when that was first published? The date, I mean. Because that would be Donald's true "birth date". Does anybody know that?

Every copy of that book I've ever seen had copyright 1931 on it.  And every one I've seen for sale listed 1931 as its publishing date.