Your most wanted Library/collected edition!

[Spectrus]

Mar 24, 2021 12:45:44 GMT Monkey_Feyerabend said:

Mar 21, 2021 23:08:44 GMT bats said:

Americans have this weird hangup where they think readers' heads are going to explode if a Disney comic book contains a story that vaguely alludes to some other story that's never been published in English, yet they have no issue publishing massive stacks of super hero continuity porn where you need to be familiar with 50 years worth of backstory to understand plot points and character motivation.

(I would not call it 'porn', though: if there is one genre that is blessed with the luck of not needing continuities and contextualisation, that is porn! ) 

Funny. But the term has been used a lot, of course. (Tvtropes also has "Competence porn" and "Scenery porn", and a few more)

Mar 24, 2021 14:53:54 GMT Rrr said:

Yup. I remember an instance where, in this story, Bum Bum meets with his cursed mirror, whom he met in this story. When the former was published in Egmont countries (at the same year, pretty fast compared to their standards), the latter wasn't published yet (not until 2017, apparently), so the caption box referring to the prequel was (in the Danish translation at least) translated to "From Bum Bum's gloomy past!". 

That was handled very similarly in German, although a bit more openly - "This story we'll tell you some other time!"

Funnily enough, the sequel states that the mask can only use its powers every five years. Despite the order being upside down, there was a gap between the printings of the two stories of....... five years. 

Mar 24, 2021 16:48:38 GMT That Duckfan said:

Is it weird that I'd like to see a collected edition of Bum Bum comics? The stories he's in are some of my favorites, but they're published so sporadically in my country that it's nearly impossible to collect them.

Not weird at all, I'd say... Mastantuono came up with one of the most original characters seen in recent Disney comics.

[That Duckfan]

Mar 24, 2021 20:49:05 GMT Spectrus said:

Mar 24, 2021 16:48:38 GMT That Duckfan said:

Is it weird that I'd like to see a collected edition of Bum Bum comics? The stories he's in are some of my favorites, but they're published so sporadically in my country that it's nearly impossible to collect them.

Not weird at all, I'd say... Mastantuono came up with one of the most original characters seen in recent Disney comics.

I've mentioned Bum Bum before on Disney forums, nd I've not always gotten favorable responses. Then again, those same people seemed to think of Mastantuono as a Cavazzano clone, so they clearly didn't get very far. The nuttier stuff printed in Italy has a special place in my heart, but it doesn't always get to travel abroad (or only to Greece).

[Spectrus]

I don't always like Mastantuono, to be honest. I find his tendency to draw open mouths from behind off-putting.

[Monkey_Feyerabend]

Mar 24, 2021 20:49:05 GMT Spectrus said:

Mar 24, 2021 12:45:44 GMT Monkey_Feyerabend said:

(I would not call it 'porn', though: if there is one genre that is blessed with the luck of not needing continuities and contextualisation, that is porn! ) 

Funny. But the term has been used a lot, of course. (Tvtropes also has "Competence porn" and "Scenery porn", and a few more)

Oh, I see. But the fact that people use an expression is not reason enough for me to accept it. I object to the use of the word 'porn' in these kind of expression. It's offensive to the porn genre. One could use 'continuity fetish', 'competence fetish', and so on. That's more correct etymologically. 

[Spectrus]

Some people think porn is offensive, others think things are offensive to porn.

This thread took a weird turn, didn't it?

[Monkey_Feyerabend]

Thank you to KKM for once for not automatically turn 'porn' into 'pWAKn'.

[Spectrus]

Anyway, back to the subject of continuity... we're really seeing a chasm widen here between Italy and the countries that print Italian stories, because apparently the Topolino comics are becoming more and more woven together, with cross-references between comics happening far more often than earlier, and stories employing more horizontal plot elements like Marco Nucci's stuff and Gervasio's Paperinik (Duck Avenger) stories. I think given how much effort Gervasio has put into his stories, some kind of big collection bringing it all together would really be neat at some point.

[mousemaestro]

The entirely of the Darkenblot saga
Mickey Mouse Mystery Magazine
Bill Wright work

[stefan07]

A complete Vicar collection would be golden.

[caballero]

Aug 12, 2021 20:00:25 GMT stefan07 said:

A complete Vicar collection would be golden.

To be honest, I never understood why some people liked Vicar so much. Sure his drawing style looks decent, but can you name a single Vicar comic that is worth re-reading? A complete Vicar collection would be over 10 thousand pages, that's over 50 books filled with mediocre stuff.

[Spectrus]

I'm the wrong guy to answer this question but here are Vicar's stories ranked from the top down.

inducks.org/comp2.php?kind=nk&creat=VR&imgmode=1&vdesc2=on&vdesc=en&sort1=votes

[Matilda]

While there is way more mediocre Vicar material than anyone wants to plow through, in my opinion there are indeed plenty of Vicar stories worth a hardcover or two. There are at least a couple dozen Vicar-drawn stories that I re-read. Two of the seven stories with lake monsters I re-read are Vicar-drawn! What can I say, I'm fond of lake monsters. And several of the birthday-themed stories I re-read around my birthday: Party of None! (Gladstone's birthday) by Michael T. Gilbert, Gathering the Ducks (Grandma Duck's birthday) by Per Hedman, and Unfair Play (Daisy's birthday) by Dave Angus.

For more suggestions, check out the "favorite Vicar stories" thread on this forum! I wrote on that thread that I like to imagine an "Around the Year with Vicar" volume:

New Year's: A New Year, A New Donald (Charlie Martin)
Valentine's Day: Date with a Munchkin (Korhonen)--no, it's not set on Valentine's Day, but it's V-Day-appropriate
Easter: Hot-Choc Donald (Hedman)--an Eastery version of "Weemite"
Cornelius Coot Day: Pioneer Daze (Gerstein)--Vicar is great on chaotic crowd scenes!
back-to-school: The Secret of Goblin Valley (McGreals)--love those Vicar aliens!
Halloween: All Tricks and No Treats (J. Gilbert)
Christmas: Christmas Magic (Hedman)--the one with the charmed mistletoe sprigs--there would be loads of Vicar-drawn Christmas stories to choose among, this is just a personal favorite, partly because Daisy gets to tackle Magica

As I wrote on this "most wanted library" thread two years ago: since Vicar/Vicar's studio produced far too many stories to collect, this would be one way to honor his art with a mixed bunch of stories that would still have an overall coherence.

[stefan07]

Until a Vicar Masters volume comes out, is there any place to read his comics? Scans or something like that?

[niko]

Aug 12, 2021 21:23:07 GMT caballero said:

Aug 12, 2021 20:00:25 GMT stefan07 said:

A complete Vicar collection would be golden.

To be honest, I never understood why some people liked Vicar so much. Sure his drawing style looks decent, but can you name a single Vicar comic that is worth re-reading? A complete Vicar collection would be over 10 thousand pages, that's over 50 books filled with mediocre stuff.

Yes, please no Vicar collection and also no Murry collection while there are still many more talented artists not fully served.
In my opinion, it s Daan Jippes, Romano Scarpa, Casty, Manuel Gonzales, Taliaferro, the rest of Gottfredson.

[RobbK1]

Aug 15, 2021 19:43:36 GMT niko said:

Aug 12, 2021 21:23:07 GMT caballero said:

To be honest, I never understood why some people liked Vicar so much. Sure his drawing style looks decent, but can you name a single Vicar comic that is worth re-reading? A complete Vicar collection would be over 10 thousand pages, that's over 50 books filled with mediocre stuff.

Yes, please no Vicar collection and also no Murry collection while there are still many more talented artists not fully served.
In my opinion, it s Daan Jippes, Romano Scarpa, Casty, Manuel Gonzales, Taliaferro, the rest of Gottfredson.

I agree that COMPLETE Vicar collection before a Scarpa, Jippes, Gonzales, Gottfredson, Taliasferro, and Casty collection would be a waste.  But a "Best of Vicar" in 2 or 3 volumes of Fantagraphics' special books style, would be something I would like.