Where is Miss/Mrs. Fox?

[jazzqueen92]

I know we've seen Mrs. Bear before in the comics, but I am wondering where is Miss/Mrs. Fox for Brer Fox. Has she ever appeared at all? I mean I know that Brer Fox has had interest in Molly Cottontail and Miss Honeybear has always had a thing for him. However, I still wonder why a character based on Mrs. Fox from the myths haven't shown up. It also brings into mind Alfred from the French comics. Did they say who Alfred's mother is? Or is Brer Fox a single parent in the French comics. 

[Orora]

I don't even know if Alfred and Brer Fox ever appeared together! Inducks says no.

[jazzqueen92]

Dec 17, 2019 1:00:46 GMT Orora said:

I don't even know if Alfred and Brer Fox ever appeared together! Inducks says no.

That's strange for two characters who are supposed to be father and son to never appear together. 

[Mesterius]

Dec 18, 2019 6:18:18 GMT jazzqueen92 said:

Dec 17, 2019 1:00:46 GMT Orora said:

I don't even know if Alfred and Brer Fox ever appeared together! Inducks says no.

That's strange for two characters who are supposed to be father and son to never appear together. 

I never even heard about Brer Fox having a son in the comics.

[jazzqueen92]

Dec 18, 2019 12:41:06 GMT Mesterius said:

Dec 18, 2019 6:18:18 GMT jazzqueen92 said:

That's strange for two characters who are supposed to be father and son to never appear together. 

I never even heard about Brer Fox having a son in the comics.

disney.fandom.com/wiki/Alfred_Goupil

He's his son in the French comics only. In other media, he's usually single. 

[crazycatlord]

Well, with perhaps only one exception, I never seen Mrs. Wolf, in spite of Li'l Bad Wolf.

[Mesterius]

Dec 19, 2019 2:32:39 GMT jazzqueen92 said:

Dec 18, 2019 12:41:06 GMT Mesterius said:

I never even heard about Brer Fox having a son in the comics.

disney.fandom.com/wiki/Alfred_Goupil

He's his son in the French comics only. In other media, he's usually single. 

Weird.

Dec 19, 2019 15:12:16 GMT crazycatlord said:

Well, with perhaps only one exception, I never seen Mrs. Wolf, in spite of Li'l Bad Wolf.

What is this one exception you're referring to?

[RobbK1]

The Disney version of The Uncle Remus stories as depicted in their films and comic books and comic strips is NOT the same as was presented in the original Joel Chandler Harris books. Harris' stories included many characters that Disney has never used, including a wife and children of Mr. Fox, children of Mr. Bear, and lots of others. I don't know any of the French Disney stories that weren't produced in The Netherlands or USA. But, if French productions used more than were used in USA, I have no doubt that they came from The Harris stories, and we creators should be using Harris' original stories as a resource. I've written 2 Broer Konijn (Bre'r Rabbit) stories, one of which employs a Harris character not used yet in any US or Dutch Bre'r Rabbit story, and. I believe, probably has not been used by The French publishers.

[jazzqueen92]

I just like the idea of Brer Fox getting his equivalent of Molly Cottontail.

[Fantomius]

If I remember correctly Brer Fox's family (wife and children) is shown on a photo in ZB 4604.

[Ramapith]

Mar 22, 2022 11:05:43 GMT Fantomius said:

If I remember correctly Brer Fox's family (wife and children) is shown on a photo in ZB 4604.

Yes and no.

The photo seems to show a grown lady fox and four fox kids, one a baby; and Brer Fox unambiguously describes them as "my po' family... my po' little chilluns" (e. g. children, in his accent), which sure sounds like he means his biological children.

Later in the story, however, when Brer Rabbit meets one of those kids, he's represented as Fox's nephew: asking Rabbit if he's seen "Uncle Fox," while at the same time referencing the rest of the family by adding "us thinks dat maybe he's dead" (italics mine).

In the latest Dutch translation (DD 1990-43), however, the kid refers to Fox as "mijn vader" (my father), so it seems they tried to ret-con the character to match Fox's description.

Interestingly, when another Sunday strip story with this nephew was published in the Netherlands earlier (ZB 4606: DD 1981-50), the familial relationship was removed entirely; where the nephew called Fox "Uncle Fox" in the original, he simply calls him Meneer Vos ("Mr. Fox") in Dutch.