We can't even have characters discuss the topic of "who designed or runs The Universe?"
I don't think there's a ban on using Greco-Roman gods (or other ancient deities)? That'd be an avenue.
Anyway, your post kind of twistily raises the question: the Dutch comics have often brought in St. Nicholas, but have Disney comics ever "done" either St. George or Joan of Arc, to anyone's knowledge?
On St. George: in The Reluctant Dragon, of course, Disney replaced the St. George character in Kenneth Grahame's book with Sir Giles.
Robb, I thought I'd heard that Disney wasn't going to allow any new Sinterklaas stories, due to the Piet issue.
I knew that issue was being discussed. I didn't hear that the "remedy" had been decided yet. It will be a thorny matter. It is difficult to undo hundreds of years of tradition.
We can't even have characters discuss the topic of "who designed or runs The Universe?"
I don't think there's a ban on using Greco-Roman gods (or other ancient deities)? That'd be an avenue.
Anyway, your post kind of twistily raises the question: the Dutch comics have often brought in St. Nicholas, but have Disney comics ever "done" either St. George or Joan of Arc, to anyone's knowledge?
Maybe French Disney Comics have had The Ducks meet St. Joan by using a time machine built by Gyro. I don't remember her appearing in a US, Dutch or Scandanavian Disney comic. Many of the Greek, Roman, and Norse "gods" have appeared in many Disney Comics stories, but NONE of them were ever shown as actually being the ruler of The Duck or Mouse Universe. The reader only learns about the history of those ancient people's religions, not details about any still existing, popular religion.
2) I had forgotten about Ludwig. I can totally see him having a degree in all religions. Him being an atheist would mean that he disregards his own studies as nonsense, while him being an agnostic would mean that he admits NOT knowing something, which is very unlikely. I think that Ludwig is so conceited that, most likely, he has founded his own religion or something (good idea for a story, though it will probably never happen, for obvious reasons).
Oh, Ludwig definitely founded his own religion at some point during his studies. Fethry may or may not have been a member at some point. Headcanon.
Also, I think there has to be some marginal flying spaghetti monster-type of cult in Duckburg that believes the world is some kind of comic book, written by a number of unnamed artists. Like how some people view the world like some reality TV show ever since that South Park episode aired.
At least in the Portuguese translation of "Knight in Shining Armor", it is said "his shield has the seal of Saint George", indicating that at least the idea of Saint George exists in these universe.
At least in the Portuguese translation of "Knight in Shining Armor", it is said "his shield has the seal of Saint George", indicating that at least the idea of Saint George exists in these universe.
Barks: "On his shield is graved a forgotten knight slaying rampant lions, and on his rubber sword is the outworn seal of St. George!"
Good catch, crazycatlord!
Likewise, the mural in the Cathedral of Notre Duck in which Scrooge's head is "framed" shows an armored knight fighting a dragon, and while the knight is never identified, this picture would only be in a cathedral if it were representing St. George, not a random fairytale knight.
Likewise, the mural in the Cathedral of Notre Duck in which Scrooge's head is "framed" shows an armored knight fighting a dragon, and while the knight is never identified, this picture would only be in a cathedral if it were representing St. George, not a random fairytale knight.
Likewise interesting catch, but actually, my money would be in St. Michael, as in the famous Raphael painting. Makes more sense for a non-British cathedral, I'd have thought.
Likewise, the mural in the Cathedral of Notre Duck in which Scrooge's head is "framed" shows an armored knight fighting a dragon, and while the knight is never identified, this picture would only be in a cathedral if it were representing St. George, not a random fairytale knight.
Likewise interesting catch, but actually, my money would be in St. Michael, as in the famous Raphael painting. Makes more sense for a non-British cathedral, I'd have thought.
Of the two, I'd still vote for George. The dragon defeated by St. Michael the archangel is usually shown as much smaller in relation to him (as in the Raphael painting), not as a beast much bigger than he is. Look in Google Images for "Michael dragon"--the only images I can see where the dragon is huge are recent ones. Traditional depictions, the dragon is at most about the same size as he is. Often it's much smaller, at his feet. Also, Michael may wear some armor, but he's not likely to be fully armored.
And speaking of the Cathedral of Notre Duck: the name of the cathedral inspired me in my tweens to imagine that in the Duckiverse (a parallel world to ours, with many similarities but where the horrifically bad things don't happen) God came to earth as a Duckperson. This made perfect sense to Christian me, who read lots of science fiction. It is the idea behind Aslan in Narnia: not Jesus of Nazareth in disguise, but how God would choose to be incarnate in a world of talking animals. There have been Christian science fiction writers who have thought of this idea, that God would be incarnate in other forms in alien worlds. Sydney Carter even wrote a Christmas carol including this idea! So I decided that the Cathedral of Notre Duck represented this Duckiverse version of Christianity, with a Duckperson incarnation of God.
Yes, this gets a bit complicated if you think about how dognoses would feel about a Duckperson messiah, but the characters I cared about were all birdfolk, so.... I suppose you could certainly have dognosed apostles and the like. St. George in the Notre Duck mural is likely a dognose.
Yes, this gets a bit complicated if you think about how dognoses would feel about a Duckperson messiah, but the characters I cared about were all birdfolk, so.... I suppose you could certainly have dognosed apostles and the like. St. George in the Notre Duck mural is likely a dognose.
This is a good idea for another thread. Don Rosa has portrayed many historical figures in his work. So, though it will never be shown in a Disney story, what do you think figures from the Bible, the Koran etc look like in Disney world?
I could open such a thread, but I don't know whether the mods would like it. So, am I allowed to?
Yes, this gets a bit complicated if you think about how dognoses would feel about a Duckperson messiah, but the characters I cared about were all birdfolk, so.... I suppose you could certainly have dognosed apostles and the like. St. George in the Notre Duck mural is likely a dognose.
This is a good idea for another thread. Don Rosa has portrayed many historical figures in his work. So, though it will never be shown in a Disney story, what do you think figures from the Bible, the Koran etc look like in Disney world?
I could open such a thread, but I don't know whether the mods would like it. So, am I allowed to?
This is a good idea for another thread. Don Rosa has portrayed many historical figures in his work. So, though it will never be shown in a Disney story, what do you think figures from the Bible, the Koran etc look like in Disney world?
I could open such a thread, but I don't know whether the mods would like it. So, am I allowed to?
The choice if the name, "Bubanassar", posing as an Assyrian or Babylonian name, makes this appear to more likely be a parody of Utnapishtim, the Akkadian "Noah" (who was really based on an earlier Sumerian "Noah"), rather than The Hebrew later version (a way to relate the story to history, and distance Disney Comics from potentially being accused of espousing, or possibly offending members of currently existing religions).
I just remembered this earlier post, on a panel in Hedman's Gathering the Ducks: Grandma Duck shows Donald a photo of herself as a babe-in-arms, and (at least in German) says that it's a photo from her baptism day! Interesting addition to the very short list of churchy or religious references in the lives of the Ducks. Though of course for many people, particularly in countries where Christianity used to be the state church, baptism is just a generic baby rite, the life-cycle rite for newborns, not anything particularly religious.