Duck Family Trees I made in 2012/13

[sim]

Dear All, my name is Sim and I am new on this forum, but I've been an active member of the deceased DCF something like a decade ago. As a lover of the Duck universe, my main interest has always been their genealogy and so I did some researches between 2009 and 2013 that led to a bunch of family trees that I have never really had the chance to post anywhere beside the notebook on which I schematized them with my pen.

Well, a lot of time has passed since then, I don't really know new stories which has been published in the last 6/7 years, so I may be missing some new relative or statement that may have been made, but I would like to share with you my then-results in order to compare them with your theories. My start point was Gilles Maurice Duck Tree, but as you will see I made some changes that I considered appropriate, plus I added some info that he missed.


+ Let's start with Scrooge's (I'm sorry I don't know how to make them visually good, so instead of representing the trees with lines I'm just going to list the relatives gen by gen):

GEN 0

- $crooge McDuck -> our beloved one, doesn't need any introduction
- Scrooge McDuck -> Scrooge's identical twin brother, only seen in I AO 55034-A, he is referred as "Paperone" (Scrooge) or "Mani buche" (which is the same Italian name for Pothole McDuck)
- Hortense McDuck -> Donald's mother
- Matilda McDuck -> Scrooge's sister (who may or may not be married to Ludwig von Drake)
- Gideon McDuck -> Scrooge's younger brother introduced in I TL 132-AP (I don't know if it's ever explicitly stated that he is younger than Scrooge, but he looks so)
- Rumpus McFowl -> Scrooge's half-brother according to D 99053 and later Van Horn stories

GEN 1 (not counting Scrooge's uncles and aunts for now)

- Fergus McDuck -> father of all GEN 0 listed above characters
- Downy O'Drake ->mother of all GEN 0 listed above characters but Rumpus McFowl
- Rumpus' mother -> we don't know much about her, in D 99053 is stated that she and Fergus gave birth to Rumpus (this fact is confessed by her to some aunt Vera through a letter Rumpus finds before the story takes place)

notes:

- in a previous version of the tree I also included aunt Vera, she might indeed be either a McDuck or an O'Drake to whom Rumpus' mom confesses the relationship with the brother or brother-in-law, but re-reading D 99053, it's clear that both Rumpus and Scrooge considered her an aunt even when they thought they just were distant cousins, that said I think she's not so close as a relative as a direct aunt.
- in a previous version of the tree I assumed that a Mister McFowl was implied, even if never mentioned anywhere, but I think that McFowl could just be the surname of Rumpus' mother.

GEN 2 (still not considering uncles/aunts atm)

- Jenny Pamperon -> Scrooge's grandmother on Downy's side, the name Jenny comes from "I pensieri di Paperone" (book by Martina), the surname comes from I TL 690-A
- MacPaperson O'Drake -> Scrooge's grandfather, the name MacPaperson comes from I TL 272-A, I am aware of the fact that in the USA his name has been replace with "Fergus McDuck", but I don't have better fits for Scrooge's grandfather

GEN 3

- Don Pepe Pampero Pamperòn -> Scrooge mentions him as his grandfather in I TL 690-A, but I preferred having him as great-grandfather not having McDuck or O'Drake as a surname

GEN 4

- Paperonacchio Pamperon -> seen in I AT 122-A as "Paperonacchio", I think he's perfect for being Don Pepe's father


+ I also sketched a really poor Flintheart's tree because I don't know much of his relatives:

GEN O

- Junior Snorehead -> Flintheart's nephew from S 88020
- Slackjaw Snorehead -> Flintheart's nephew from D 2005-197 on

GEN 1

- Shuteye Snorehead -> father of all GEN 0 characters listed above (I think the name is unofficial and taken from a thread on DCF)
- Flintheart Glomgold -> brother-in-law of Shuteye and uncle of GEN 0 characters
- Bogford McDivot -> Scrooge's and Flintheart's distant cousin mentioned in D 99285, according to author John Lustig, he is Quagmire McDuck's daughter Elizabeth McDuck's son (Qdk/DDFR 20K)
- Everett Glomgold -> FLG's cousin from D 2006-230, "Eevertti" in Finnish

GEN 2

- Brickheart Glomgold -> Flintheart's father in D 2012-059
- FLD's mother -> seen in D 2012-059 and D 2019-053
- Elizabeth McDuck -> Bogford's mother and Quagmire's daughter according to Qdk/DDFR 20K
- Margaret McDuck -> Quagmire's daughter and spouse to Flintheart's father's second cousin according to Qdk/DDFR 20K (might be Scrooge's late aunt "Maggie McPaperosch" seen in I TL 377-A)
- Margaret's husband -> named Glomgolf, Flintheart's father's second cousin according to Qdk/DDFR 20K
- Bogford's father -> unknown

GEN 3

- Stoneheart Glomgold -> FLD's grandfather from D 5952
- Quagmire McDuck -> Scrooge's great-uncle from W US 10-03
- Stoneheart's cousin -> Margaret McDuck's father-in-law

[sim]

+ RKD tree is more definite, but I may have missed some uncle or cousin:

GEN 0

- Ilary Duck -> RKD's grandniece, she is the same age of AMJ and only appears in I TL 2806-3
- Pepito Rockerduck -> RKD's grandnephew, he is the same age of HDL and only appears in S 72142
- George Rockerduck -> RKD's grandnephew, he is the same age of HDL and only appears in D 6106
- Patrick Rockerduck -> RKD's grandnephew, he is the same age of HDL and only appears in D 6106
- Simeon Rockerduck -> RKD's grandnephew, he is the same age of HDL and only appears in D 6106

GEN 1

- Ilary's parents -> probably the mother is named Rockerduck
- Pepito, George, Patrick and Simeon's father -> nephew of RKD
- Ricky Rockerduck -> RKD's nephew and old friend of DD in I TL 2001-3
- ? Rockerduck -> RKD's nephew in I TL 1852-A

GEN 2

- John D. Rockerduck
- RKD's brother -> father of all GEN 1 characters listed above (except Ilary Duck's father)
- Ocagliostro XI -> RKD's and US' fourth cousin from I TL 1191-B

note: I wanted to include Genoveffa from S AT 215-C (who is presented as US' cousin and HDL's aunt) as aunt Eider's daughter, but there is no evidence in the story that she is somehow related to RKD

GEN 3

- Howard Rockerduck -> RKD's father
- Nathaniel Rockerduck -> RKD’s uncle from I TL 892-B (as "Nataniele")
- Edgar J. Rockerduck -> RKD’s uncle from I TL 2346-5
- Soames Rockerduck -> RKD's uncle from D 2019-113
[- Rocker Rockerduck -> Scrooge's rival in Klondike, remembered in I TL 1254-AP as "Rocker Pataccaro" (which is untranslatable, but "patacca" means something fake, so "pataccaro" would be someone who sells fake things claiming they are real)]
- RKD's mother -> a nurse, nicknamed "Ciccia" in I TL 756-A, we see her again in RKD's memories in D 2019-053
- Eider Mallard -> US' and RKD's aunt from S 73228, niece of Molly Mallard.

note: Rocker Rockerduck isn't explicitly related to RKD in the story, but he is identical to him and the name "Rocker" is clearly a reference, oddly he happens to have a nephew which presents dog features instead of duck ones.

GEN 4

- ? Rockerduck -> RKD's paternal grandfather, Gilles Maurice names him "John" after I AT 299-B, but in the original version of the story there is no name and no clue that the character appearing in the flashback is actually RKD's relative
- ? Rockerduck -> RKD's great-uncle mentioned and seen in a flashback in I TL 2026-3
- Pat Von Concius -> RKD's maternal grandfather from B 910264
- RKD's grandmother -> Pat Von Concius' wife, Molly Mallard's sister-in-law
- Molly Mallard -> US' grandmother
- Marmaduke Mallard -> Molly Mallard's brother, mentioned as Donald's "late uncle" in W WDC 104-02 (in the story that is made up by US, but he could have taken the name from an actual uncle)

GEN 5

- Long Rocker -> RKD's great-grandfather, from I TL 1852-A

[Minotaur]

As I remember there is an online generator which may help you to illustrate your tree. Anyone have the link?

[farmspirit]

Dec 26, 2020 23:02:03 GMT sim said:

- Ocagliostro XI -> old cousin of RKD and US

He is from I TL 1191-B, right?

[sim]

Dec 27, 2020 14:33:12 GMT farmspirit said:

Dec 26, 2020 23:02:03 GMT sim said:

- Ocagliostro XI -> old cousin of RKD and US

He is from I TL 1191-B, right?

yes, he is, and I actually did write it as I made the post, but I keep updating it and I probably copied an older version.

Now it's updated

[sim]

+ Gander family tree (I may be missing somebody here)

GEN 0

- Shamrock Gander -> GL's nephew from W OS 649-06
- two little girls -> same age of Shamrock and HDL, identical twins appearing in W OS 649-06, they call Gladstone "cousin", probably they are daughters of a GL's cousin

GEN 1

- Shamrock's father -> GL's brother
- Mehitabel Mudhen -> Donald mentions having a cousin with this name in W WDC 74-01, so she might just be Shamrock's mother
- Gladstone Gander
- Oscar Gander -> Scrooge's jinx nephew appearing in I TL 363-A as "Oscar Paperone" (Paperone in Italy is Gadstone's surname), I think he could be Goosetail's and Matilda McDuck's son
- Sadstone Gander -> GL's identical cousin from D 2014-056, might be GL's little cousins' father

GEN 2

- Daphne Duck -> GL's mother
- Goosetail Gander -> GL's father
- Matilda McDuck -> Scrooge's sister, Barks intended her to have an affair with Goosetail, that's why I see her as Oscar's mother
- Blackduck Gander -> his name appears close to GL's on a family tree in W DG 38-01
- Gastolinda Gander -> GL's aunt from I TL 2057-2
- Dolly Duck -> Fantomallard's partner
- Margaret Duck -> Dolly's sister

GEN 3

- GL's grandparents on Gander side -> don't know much about them, but the grandmother was probably named Swan
- Susiebelle Swan -> mentioned as GL's "late distant relative" in W OS 422-02, so I made her his great-aunt
- Samantha Gander -> GL's great-aunt and Dolly Duck's mother
- Clement Duck -> Samuel Duck's son, father of Dolly and Margaret Duck
- Gubert Gander -> we see that the house where GL lives is inherited from great-uncle Gubert ("Guberto" in the Italian)
- Coodle O'Luck -> GL's great-uncle from I TL 2602-1

notes:

- Lochbert, Sir Crabstone and Nicolas Gander are not included here because they are way back like GEN 6/7 and I don't know of any relative in between
- an Aunt Agnes appears in D 2000-110, but having never read that story I don't know the correct relationship between her and GL, please someone help

Dec 27, 2020 5:30:47 GMT Minotaur said:

As I remember there is an online generator which may help you to illustrate your tree. Anyone have the link?

plus if any of you could share with me this link, I will render the tree so that you can use these posts as an index and see the actual tree sketched

[LP]

There's a site called Family Echo that I've seen some people here use. I believe it's free.

[sim]

Okay so I put all the information I've written in this thread so far on the Family Echo site (plus pictures of most of the characters I mentioned) and this is the result.

I think it is kind of messy btw, because you can't have a complete idea of the family, as relatives disappear until you browse to them.

[LP]

Dec 28, 2020 3:20:31 GMT sim said:

Okay so I put all the information I've written in this thread so far on the Family Echo site (plus pictures of most of the characters I mentioned) and this is the result.

I think it is kind of messy btw, because you can't have a complete idea of the family, as relatives disappear until you browse to them.

Yes, I'm not a fan of the disappearing relatives either. I do my trees in Photoshop. If you have access to a similar image editing program, I'd recommend that. You'll have more control of what the end result will look like that way.

[farmspirit]

Thankz for the information, I'm also researching Rk relatives and there were a couple that I hadn't.

I was searching the comics that you linked, and found that Nataniele appears in I TL 892-B. In I TL 909-B I couldn't find any reference to Rk uncle.

I wanted to mentions Rk other uncle from the new Kari Korhonen serie, but I saw that you already have it. At least I can mention sir Sterlinduck, Rk ancestor who was an explorer. He was mentioned in I TL 1852-A with Long Rocker, have no idea how he's called in the english version.

[sim]

Dec 29, 2020 22:52:28 GMT farmspirit said:

I was searching the comics that you linked, and found that Nataniele appears in I TL 892-B. In I TL 909-B I couldn't find any reference to Rk uncle.

oh yes, you are totally right! I got confused copying the code from Inducks since they were both drawn by Gatti. Corrected now.

Dec 29, 2020 22:52:28 GMT farmspirit said:

I wanted to mentions Rk other uncle from the new Kari Korhonen serie, but I saw that you already have it. At least I can mention sir Sterlinduck, Rk ancestor who was an explorer. He was mentioned in I TL 1852-A with Long Rocker, have no idea how he's called in the english version.

I found that uncle yesterday as I was browsing through the Inducks and added him here as I keep updating these posts day-to-day. Unluckily the stories in which he appears are not printed in the USA yet, but Soames is the name provided on the site.

About Sterlinduck: yes, he makes a brief appearance together with Long Rocker, I just didn't include him because I guess he's more of an ancestor.

[Matilda]

Dec 27, 2020 18:22:10 GMT sim said:

+ Gander family tree (I may be missing somebody here)


- an Aunt Agnes appears in D 2000-110, but having never read that story I don't know the correct relationship between her and GL, please someone help

Dec 27, 2020 5:30:47 GMT Minotaur said:

Scroogerello summarized the Aunt Agnes story in this 2018 post:  featherysociety.proboards.com/post/13860

"I have the story in Dutch. Her name is "Agaath Van Zanikh" in the Dutch translation (it comes from the Dutch verb "zaniken", which is to continuously complain about the smallest things, and it's a very fitting name for the character). She comes to visit Duckburg, and both Donald and Gladstone offer to let her stay with them, because they hope she'll write them into her will. In hopes of sabotaging each others' chances of getting into the will, Donald does everything he can to make her visit with Gladstone as unpleasant as possible, and vice versa. It's a simple but pretty funny story. Also, her character design is very atypical, which I like; it's far from the "Donald/Scrooge with a wig/different outfit" cliché that so many artists keep using. In my Gladstone Gander family tree from a few years ago, I included a scan of her."  <end quotation>

I now have the story in French, and in that version she is named "Agnès Van Trott." The fact that the English plot summary on INDUCKS calls her "aunt Agnes" may mean that her first name is Agnes in Hedman's script (or may mean that the writer of that summary read the French version, I suppose). Since both French and Dutch versions give her a last name other than "Duck", the most straightforward way for her to be the aunt of both Donald and Gladstone is for her to be another daughter of Elvira and Humperdink Duck, sister to Quackfaster, Daphne and Eider, who married a well-off man with the last name Van X. That couple would be childless, since Agnes is considering leaving her animals to either Gladstone or Donald.

Scroogerello's summary is slightly inaccurate. Neither wants to host Agnes initially, but she's said she's going to visit Gladstone; both Donald and Gladstone view that as bad luck for Gladstone. Only after she arrives does spying Donald hear that she's going to bequeath her animals to Gladstone, and then Donald decides to make her stay at Gladstone's very unpleasant. Gladstone does not try to do the same when she goes to stay at Donald's, for reasons.

I agree with Scroogerello--and with stuftmcduck, who replied to his post on that thread--that it's really nice to have a new relative introduced with a distinctive character design.

[sim]

Mar 1, 2021 20:00:47 GMT Matilda said:

Dec 27, 2020 18:22:10 GMT sim said:

+ Gander family tree (I may be missing somebody here)


- an Aunt Agnes appears in D 2000-110, but having never read that story I don't know the correct relationship between her and GL, please someone help

Scroogerello summarized the Aunt Agnes story in this 2018 post:  featherysociety.proboards.com/post/13860

"I have the story in Dutch. Her name is "Agaath Van Zanikh" in the Dutch translation (it comes from the Dutch verb "zaniken", which is to continuously complain about the smallest things, and it's a very fitting name for the character). She comes to visit Duckburg, and both Donald and Gladstone offer to let her stay with them, because they hope she'll write them into her will. In hopes of sabotaging each others' chances of getting into the will, Donald does everything he can to make her visit with Gladstone as unpleasant as possible, and vice versa. It's a simple but pretty funny story. Also, her character design is very atypical, which I like; it's far from the "Donald/Scrooge with a wig/different outfit" cliché that so many artists keep using. In my Gladstone Gander family tree from a few years ago, I included a scan of her."  <end quotation>

I now have the story in French, and in that version she is named "Agnès Van Trott." The fact that the English plot summary on INDUCKS calls her "aunt Agnes" may mean that her first name is Agnes in Hedman's script (or may mean that the writer of that summary read the French version, I suppose). Since both French and Dutch versions give her a last name other than "Duck", the most straightforward way for her to be the aunt of both Donald and Gladstone is for her to be another daughter of Elvira and Humperdink Duck, sister to Quackfaster, Daphne and Eider, who married a well-off man with the last name Van X. That couple would be childless, since Agnes is considering leaving her animals to either Gladstone or Donald.

Scroogerello's summary is slightly inaccurate. Neither wants to host Agnes initially, but she's said she's going to visit Gladstone; both Donald and Gladstone view that as bad luck for Gladstone. Only after she arrives does spying Donald hear that she's going to bequeath her animals to Gladstone, and then Donald decides to make her stay at Gladstone's very unpleasant. Gladstone does not try to do the same when she goes to stay at Donald's, for reasons.

I agree with Scroogerello--and with stuftmcduck, who replied to his post on that thread--that it's really nice to have a new relative introduced with a distinctive character design.

thank you very much.

[Matilda]

Oops, one slight correction in my summary—Agnes is going to *give* her animals to one of her nephews, not bequeath them (leave them in her will). But in any case, she is presented as the aunt of both Gladstone and Donald, with no further details about where exactly she fits in the family tree.

[sim]

Dec 26, 2020 23:02:03 GMT sim said:

+ RKD tree is more definite, but I may have missed some uncle or cousin:

GEN 0

- Ilary Duck -> RKD's grandniece, she is the same age of AMJ and only appears in I TL 2806-3
- Pepito Rockerduck -> RKD's grandnephew, he is the same age of HDL and only appears in S 72142
- George Rockerduck -> RKD's grandnephew, he is the same age of HDL and only appears in D 6106
- Patrick Rockerduck -> RKD's grandnephew, he is the same age of HDL and only appears in D 6106
- Simeon Rockerduck -> RKD's grandnephew, he is the same age of HDL and only appears in D 6106

GEN 1

- Ilary's parents -> probably the mother is named Rockerduck
- Pepito, George, Patrick and Simeon's father -> nephew of RKD
- Ricky Rockerduck -> RKD's nephew and old friend of DD in I TL 2001-3
- ? Rockerduck -> RKD's nephew in I TL 1852-A

GEN 2

- John D. Rockerduck
- RKD's brother -> father of all GEN 1 characters listed above (except Ilary Duck's father)
- Ocagliostro XI -> RKD's and US' fourth cousin from I TL 1191-B

note: I wanted to include Genoveffa from S AT 215-C (who is presented as US' cousin and HDL's aunt) as aunt Eider's daughter, but there is no evidence in the story that she is somehow related to RKD

GEN 3

- Howard Rockerduck -> RKD's father
- Nathaniel Rockerduck -> RKD’s uncle from I TL 892-B (as "Nataniele")
- Edgar J. Rockerduck -> RKD’s uncle from I TL 2346-5
- Soames Rockerduck -> RKD's uncle from D 2019-113
[- Rocker Rockerduck -> Scrooge's rival in Klondike, remembered in I TL 1254-AP as "Rocker Pataccaro" (which is untranslatable, but "patacca" means something fake, so "pataccaro" would be someone who sells fake things claiming they are real)]
- RKD's mother -> a nurse, nicknamed "Ciccia" in I TL 756-A, we see her again in RKD's memories in D 2019-053
- Eider Mallard -> US' and RKD's aunt from S 73228, niece of Molly Mallard.

note: Rocker Rockerduck isn't explicitly related to RKD in the story, but he is identical to him and the name "Rocker" is clearly a reference, oddly he happens to have a nephew which presents dog features instead of duck ones.

GEN 4

- ? Rockerduck -> RKD's paternal grandfather, Gilles Maurice names him "John" after I AT 299-B, but in the original version of the story there is no name and no clue that the character appearing in the flashback is actually RKD's relative
- ? Rockerduck -> RKD's great-uncle mentioned and seen in a flashback in I TL 2026-3
- Pat Von Concius -> RKD's maternal grandfather from B 910264
- RKD's grandmother -> Pat Von Concius' wife, Molly Mallard's sister-in-law
- Molly Mallard -> US' grandmother
- Marmaduke Mallard -> Molly Mallard's brother, mentioned as Donald's "late uncle" in W WDC 104-02 (in the story that is made up by US, but he could have taken the name from an actual uncle)

GEN 5

- Long Rocker -> RKD's great-grandfather, from I TL 1852-A

I am glad I can say that a visual representation of this tree has been published in the sixth issue of French fanzine Picsou Soir.

I also wrote a deeper blog post about Rockerduck's parents, that you can find here.