Post by sim on Dec 26, 2020 20:51:40 GMT
Dear All, my name is Sim and I am new on this forum, but I've been an active member of the deceased DCF something like a decade ago. As a lover of the Duck universe, my main interest has always been their genealogy and so I did some researches between 2009 and 2013 that led to a bunch of family trees that I have never really had the chance to post anywhere beside the notebook on which I schematized them with my pen.
Well, a lot of time has passed since then, I don't really know new stories which has been published in the last 6/7 years, so I may be missing some new relative or statement that may have been made, but I would like to share with you my then-results in order to compare them with your theories. My start point was Gilles Maurice Duck Tree, but as you will see I made some changes that I considered appropriate, plus I added some info that he missed.
+ Let's start with Scrooge's (I'm sorry I don't know how to make them visually good, so instead of representing the trees with lines I'm just going to list the relatives gen by gen):
GEN 0
- $crooge McDuck -> our beloved one, doesn't need any introduction
- Scrooge McDuck -> Scrooge's identical twin brother, only seen in I AO 55034-A, he is referred as "Paperone" (Scrooge) or "Mani buche" (which is the same Italian name for Pothole McDuck)
- Hortense McDuck -> Donald's mother
- Matilda McDuck -> Scrooge's sister (who may or may not be married to Ludwig von Drake)
- Gideon McDuck -> Scrooge's younger brother introduced in I TL 132-AP (I don't know if it's ever explicitly stated that he is younger than Scrooge, but he looks so)
- Rumpus McFowl -> Scrooge's half-brother according to D 99053 and later Van Horn stories
GEN 1 (not counting Scrooge's uncles and aunts for now)
- Fergus McDuck -> father of all GEN 0 listed above characters
- Downy O'Drake ->mother of all GEN 0 listed above characters but Rumpus McFowl
- Rumpus' mother -> we don't know much about her, in D 99053 is stated that she and Fergus gave birth to Rumpus (this fact is confessed by her to some aunt Vera through a letter Rumpus finds before the story takes place)
notes:
- in a previous version of the tree I also included aunt Vera, she might indeed be either a McDuck or an O'Drake to whom Rumpus' mom confesses the relationship with the brother or brother-in-law, but re-reading D 99053, it's clear that both Rumpus and Scrooge considered her an aunt even when they thought they just were distant cousins, that said I think she's not so close as a relative as a direct aunt.
- in a previous version of the tree I assumed that a Mister McFowl was implied, even if never mentioned anywhere, but I think that McFowl could just be the surname of Rumpus' mother.
GEN 2 (still not considering uncles/aunts atm)
- Jenny Pamperon -> Scrooge's grandmother on Downy's side, the name Jenny comes from "I pensieri di Paperone" (book by Martina), the surname comes from I TL 690-A
- MacPaperson O'Drake -> Scrooge's grandfather, the name MacPaperson comes from I TL 272-A, I am aware of the fact that in the USA his name has been replace with "Fergus McDuck", but I don't have better fits for Scrooge's grandfather
GEN 3
- Don Pepe Pampero Pamperòn -> Scrooge mentions him as his grandfather in I TL 690-A, but I preferred having him as great-grandfather not having McDuck or O'Drake as a surname
GEN 4
- Paperonacchio Pamperon -> seen in I AT 122-A as "Paperonacchio", I think he's perfect for being Don Pepe's father
+ I also sketched a really poor Flintheart's tree because I don't know much of his relatives:
GEN O
- Junior Snorehead -> Flintheart's nephew from S 88020
- Slackjaw Snorehead -> Flintheart's nephew from D 2005-197 on
GEN 1
- Shuteye Snorehead -> father of all GEN 0 characters listed above (I think the name is unofficial and taken from a thread on DCF)
- Flintheart Glomgold -> brother-in-law of Shuteye and uncle of GEN 0 characters
- Bogford McDivot -> Scrooge's and Flintheart's distant cousin mentioned in D 99285, according to author John Lustig, he is Quagmire McDuck's daughter Elizabeth McDuck's son (Qdk/DDFR 20K)
- Everett Glomgold -> FLG's cousin from D 2006-230, "Eevertti" in Finnish
GEN 2
- Brickheart Glomgold -> Flintheart's father in D 2012-059
- FLD's mother -> seen in D 2012-059 and D 2019-053
- Elizabeth McDuck -> Bogford's mother and Quagmire's daughter according to Qdk/DDFR 20K
- Margaret McDuck -> Quagmire's daughter and spouse to Flintheart's father's second cousin according to Qdk/DDFR 20K (might be Scrooge's late aunt "Maggie McPaperosch" seen in I TL 377-A)
- Margaret's husband -> named Glomgolf, Flintheart's father's second cousin according to Qdk/DDFR 20K
- Bogford's father -> unknown
GEN 3
- Stoneheart Glomgold -> FLD's grandfather from D 5952
- Quagmire McDuck -> Scrooge's great-uncle from W US 10-03
- Stoneheart's cousin -> Margaret McDuck's father-in-law
Well, a lot of time has passed since then, I don't really know new stories which has been published in the last 6/7 years, so I may be missing some new relative or statement that may have been made, but I would like to share with you my then-results in order to compare them with your theories. My start point was Gilles Maurice Duck Tree, but as you will see I made some changes that I considered appropriate, plus I added some info that he missed.
+ Let's start with Scrooge's (I'm sorry I don't know how to make them visually good, so instead of representing the trees with lines I'm just going to list the relatives gen by gen):
GEN 0
- $crooge McDuck -> our beloved one, doesn't need any introduction
- Scrooge McDuck -> Scrooge's identical twin brother, only seen in I AO 55034-A, he is referred as "Paperone" (Scrooge) or "Mani buche" (which is the same Italian name for Pothole McDuck)
- Hortense McDuck -> Donald's mother
- Matilda McDuck -> Scrooge's sister (who may or may not be married to Ludwig von Drake)
- Gideon McDuck -> Scrooge's younger brother introduced in I TL 132-AP (I don't know if it's ever explicitly stated that he is younger than Scrooge, but he looks so)
- Rumpus McFowl -> Scrooge's half-brother according to D 99053 and later Van Horn stories
GEN 1 (not counting Scrooge's uncles and aunts for now)
- Fergus McDuck -> father of all GEN 0 listed above characters
- Downy O'Drake ->mother of all GEN 0 listed above characters but Rumpus McFowl
- Rumpus' mother -> we don't know much about her, in D 99053 is stated that she and Fergus gave birth to Rumpus (this fact is confessed by her to some aunt Vera through a letter Rumpus finds before the story takes place)
notes:
- in a previous version of the tree I also included aunt Vera, she might indeed be either a McDuck or an O'Drake to whom Rumpus' mom confesses the relationship with the brother or brother-in-law, but re-reading D 99053, it's clear that both Rumpus and Scrooge considered her an aunt even when they thought they just were distant cousins, that said I think she's not so close as a relative as a direct aunt.
- in a previous version of the tree I assumed that a Mister McFowl was implied, even if never mentioned anywhere, but I think that McFowl could just be the surname of Rumpus' mother.
GEN 2 (still not considering uncles/aunts atm)
- Jenny Pamperon -> Scrooge's grandmother on Downy's side, the name Jenny comes from "I pensieri di Paperone" (book by Martina), the surname comes from I TL 690-A
- MacPaperson O'Drake -> Scrooge's grandfather, the name MacPaperson comes from I TL 272-A, I am aware of the fact that in the USA his name has been replace with "Fergus McDuck", but I don't have better fits for Scrooge's grandfather
GEN 3
- Don Pepe Pampero Pamperòn -> Scrooge mentions him as his grandfather in I TL 690-A, but I preferred having him as great-grandfather not having McDuck or O'Drake as a surname
GEN 4
- Paperonacchio Pamperon -> seen in I AT 122-A as "Paperonacchio", I think he's perfect for being Don Pepe's father
+ I also sketched a really poor Flintheart's tree because I don't know much of his relatives:
GEN O
- Junior Snorehead -> Flintheart's nephew from S 88020
- Slackjaw Snorehead -> Flintheart's nephew from D 2005-197 on
GEN 1
- Shuteye Snorehead -> father of all GEN 0 characters listed above (I think the name is unofficial and taken from a thread on DCF)
- Flintheart Glomgold -> brother-in-law of Shuteye and uncle of GEN 0 characters
- Bogford McDivot -> Scrooge's and Flintheart's distant cousin mentioned in D 99285, according to author John Lustig, he is Quagmire McDuck's daughter Elizabeth McDuck's son (Qdk/DDFR 20K)
- Everett Glomgold -> FLG's cousin from D 2006-230, "Eevertti" in Finnish
GEN 2
- Brickheart Glomgold -> Flintheart's father in D 2012-059
- FLD's mother -> seen in D 2012-059 and D 2019-053
- Elizabeth McDuck -> Bogford's mother and Quagmire's daughter according to Qdk/DDFR 20K
- Margaret McDuck -> Quagmire's daughter and spouse to Flintheart's father's second cousin according to Qdk/DDFR 20K (might be Scrooge's late aunt "Maggie McPaperosch" seen in I TL 377-A)
- Margaret's husband -> named Glomgolf, Flintheart's father's second cousin according to Qdk/DDFR 20K
- Bogford's father -> unknown
GEN 3
- Stoneheart Glomgold -> FLD's grandfather from D 5952
- Quagmire McDuck -> Scrooge's great-uncle from W US 10-03
- Stoneheart's cousin -> Margaret McDuck's father-in-law