I didn't know Gilles had an active email listed on his page. I could write him some words in a few days and give him a link to this thread. Maybe he could fill in some image-blanks and maybe even add some new relatives to the tree.
At last, I found two people for your tree; David and Dodo McDuck (originally Duck). imgur.com/a/9gbvN7d this dutch/german tree is put together in a strange way but I explain how I think they are related to Scrooge in the discription.
Thank you, but those are already on my tree. 'David Duck' is Gumboot Duck, whom I have listed as Humperdink's brother. 'Dodo McDuck' is Crockett Duck, who is Humperdink's great-grandfather. This tree is available over at Gilles Maurice's Duck tree-page. He has added an explanatory table, which explains which story every relative originates from.
There was a whole thread on this forum some time ago all about trying to figure out how this tree works. It is sort of infamous for its complicated (and nonsensical) structure!
Probably the quantity of new relatives has decreased because the only remaining to add are in in old stories that maybe have been printed once 50-60 years ago, or that doesn't have a clear temporal collocation, so it isn't clear if they could fit in the tree. Characters like Warren Quacken from Paperino e il colosso di Pianrigoglio, ancestor of Donald and HDL, who lived "centuries ago" at Pianrigoglio (in the continent of America, so at least we know he lived after Columbus. But more is difficult to say).
Another character that I've recently found is Donald's great-great-grandfather (specifically mentioned as his great-grandfather's father) Anatrone. He showed to Donald in a dream, DD knew he was his great-great-grandpa, and DD even has a portrait of him in his house, so we know that he isn't only a product of DD's dreams. From the relation given, he should either be placed at the Cornelius Coot, Daniel Duck, Pampero o'Drake or Roger Scrooge "Potluck" mcDuck place, who are the four fathers of the four DD's great-grandfathers.
Different from both the precedent characters, is the case of Eureka Pitagorico. Who is Eureka? Good question, it's the same that I made when I found a mention of him in the letters' corner in Topolino 2551. According to the response given to a letter asking about Gyro's family, we are given that response: "Carl Barks' creativity has made possible that, in the past, we saw other members of Gyro's family: his father Fulton, plus the grandfather Ratchet Gearlose (Cacciavite Pitagorico in Italy) and the brother Eureka Pitagorico, greatuncle of Gyro. They too were inventors!". So apparently this Eureka was the brother of Ratchet, and great-uncle of Gyro. Those responses generally stick to already existent characters, often referring to Rosa's canon (questions about Donald, Scrooge at least). Plus for how the response is written it seems that Eureka was created by Barks. I doubt this because if he was, he would be much more known between english readers, and already on the tree (remember that this response was written in 2004, so Gadget wasn't created yet, and Alex is called so also in the Italian version). Said all this, he probably comes from some story before 19/10/2004, maybe recent at the time if they went to add him in.
Probably the quantity of new relatives has decreased because the only remaining to add are in in old stories that maybe have been printed once 50-60 years ago, or that doesn't have a clear temporal collocation, so it isn't clear if they could fit in the tree. Characters like Warren Quacken from Paperino e il colosso di Pianrigoglio, ancestor of Donald and HDL, who lived "centuries ago" at Pianrigoglio (in the continent of America, so at least we know he lived after Columbus. But more is difficult to say).
Another character that I've recently found is Donald's great-great-grandfather (specifically mentioned as his great-grandfather's father) Anatrone. He showed to Donald in a dream, DD knew he was his great-great-grandpa, and DD even has a portrait of him in his house, so we know that he isn't only a product of DD's dreams. From the relation given, he should either be placed at the Cornelius Coot, Daniel Duck, Pampero o'Drake or Roger Scrooge "Potluck" mcDuck place, who are the four fathers of the four DD's great-grandfathers.
Different from both the precedent characters, is the case of Eureka Pitagorico. Who is Eureka? Good question, it's the same that I made when I found a mention of him in the letters' corner in Topolino 2551. According to the response given to a letter asking about Gyro's family, we are given that response: "Carl Barks' creativity has made possible that, in the past, we saw other members of Gyro's family: his father Fulton, plus the grandfather Ratchet Gearlose (Cacciavite Pitagorico in Italy) and the brother Eureka Pitagorico, greatuncle of Gyro. They too were inventors!". So apparently this Eureka was the brother of Ratchet, and great-uncle of Gyro. Those responses generally stick to already existent characters, often referring to Rosa's canon (questions about Donald, Scrooge at least). Plus for how the response is written it seems that Eureka was created by Barks. I doubt this because if he was, he would be much more known between english readers, and already on the tree (remember that this response was written in 2004, so Gadget wasn't created yet, and Alex is called so also in the Italian version). Said all this, he probably comes from some story before 19/10/2004, maybe recent at the time if they went to add him in.
Side-note: probably the general, father of Paperett Custar, should be given the surname Custar too, since we know it from him.
As far as I know, Barks never created a character named Eureka; Ratchet has a twin brother in Korhonen's new serial, but it clearly couldn't be foreseen.
Another character that I've recently found is Donald's great-great-grandfather (specifically mentioned as his great-grandfather's father) Anatrone. He showed to Donald in a dream, DD knew he was his great-great-grandpa, and DD even has a portrait of him in his house, so we know that he isn't only a product of DD's dreams. From the relation given, he should either be placed at the Cornelius Coot, Daniel Duck, Pampero o'Drake or Roger Scrooge "Potluck" mcDuck place, who are the four fathers of the four DD's great-grandfathers.
Side-note: probably the general, father of Paperett Custar, should be given the surname Custar too, since we know it from him.
Thanks for your contributions, Farmspirit! As always, this was an interesting one!
I really don't like having to completely leave out relatives. Interestingly, the Anatrone-artist appears to be the same one who drew the great-grandfather, Paolo, whom I also had to leave out (which really annoys me). However, I'm tempted to move Daniel Duck and replace him with Anatrone. Having Daniel as Donald's great-great-grandfather is sort of cheating, as Daniel would have been born around 1815 for my tree-chronology to work. Yet, he warned Duckburg of a hurricane in 1878... meaning that he would have been around 60 at the time. It's hard to determine how old he's supposed to be from the two panels he appears in, but my guess would be 30s-40s. All this to say, Daniel might as well move over to become Anatrone's brother. I'll have to think about this for a few days before I change it though. What do you guys think about that?
On the tree, I generally only put first and full names. I don't know why, though. Probably to avoid confusion. If I put General Custar's name down as 'Custar', it would be impossible to know whether that's his first or last name without context. However, maybe that's better than nothing. I'll have that in mind if I meddle with Anatrone!
Interestingly, the Anatrone-artist appears to be the same one who drew the great-grandfather, Paolo, whom I also had to leave out (which really annoys me).
It's actually two different artists: Pedrocchi for Paolo and Perego for Anatrone.
As far as I know, Barks never created a character named Eureka; Ratchet has a twin brother in Korhonen's new serial, but it clearly couldn't be foreseen.
So, if it wasn't a Barks creation, it's probably from another story, maybe italian. Those responses didn't use to invent facts, sticking to already shown characters or facts, so it's probable that another member of Gyro's family is out there. We only need to find him.
Found another one of those relatives with no clear timeframe. In Zio Paperone e la leggenda di mcPaper Scrooge is waked by the ghost of his ancestor mcPaper (he is referred as much multiple time, both by himself and by books. Yet it doesn't seem to be his name, as later Ludwig refer to "the family of the mcPaper", and the ghost says "the treasure of the mcPaper"). The old teacher of Ludwig tells that mcPaper was the richest man of all Scotland, and also a benefactor. He was the first to build a school with a sport field (of log's throwing, at least from what the picture shows). He also liked a lot to play the bagpipe. This pretty much all we know about this ancestor of Scrooge. In my opinion if you want to add him into the tree, is surname shouldn't be adapted as mcDuck to add him as another (×N)great uncle, as is original surname is a lot different from the "de' Paperoni", the italian translation of mcDuck. So the authors of that story definitely didn't consider ghost mcPaper a paternal ancestor of Scrooge.
When I was taking the pictures, I noticed that the castle today and in the past look really different. Being "ghost" mcPaper's treasure in the "today" castle, it seems to be implied the two castles are the same. To be so, they must have gone through some serious renovations. All this without ever finding the treasure.
Another story that have a relative, this probably in the present, is O Primo Sem Cabeça. It was printed only once in Brazil and Italy, but since I don't have that number of Mega I cannot find more about the cousin of Grandma Duck mentioned in the description.
On the tree, I generally only put first and full names. I don't know why, though. Probably to avoid confusion. If I put General Custar's name down as 'Custar', it would be impossible to know whether that's his first or last name without context. However, maybe that's better than nothing. I'll have that in mind if I meddle with Anatrone!
For characters that I only know the surname of, I used to put them as ? $SURNAME, so for example in that case it would be ? Custar. Since generally question marks aren't used in names, it should be pretty clear the ? is referring to the missing name. Another option that I used sometime is to give them a nickname and put it between "" (like I made for "ghost" mcPaper). But since in your tree "" refers to in-universe nicknames, using it also for out-universe ones would only lead to confusion. I'm also trying to not use it in future trees, limiting only to personal notes to distinguish the dozens of aunts that every character has and namedropped in a ballon and never mentioned again.
Oh, I don't really know it this could be of any actual help for the purpose of the thread, but I just re-found this letter I received from William van Horn some years ago about the character of Uncle Rumpus.
Oh, I don't really know it this could be of any actual help for the purpose of the thread, but I just re-found this letter I received from William van Horn some years ago about the character of Uncle Rumpus.
Interesting! I've read Travails, but I've never heard of Secrets! I'll have to search that one out!
Hello once more. This may very well be the last update, since we seem to have run out of relatives! That being said, I've added Scrooge's relatives that were mentioned by Sim - Sourdough, Midas, and Mudwall. Midas was said to be Scrooge's "great uncle", which would make him Titus 'Dingus' McDuck's brother. However, Sim mentioned that Midas' will was signed in 1752. As Titus was born around 1800, I find it more likely that Midas was a few generations older.
I've also changed Scroogio van Duck's family's names to the English versions, also given by Sim. A Gyro counterpart, Gustave Gearloose, was named too. I added Gustave to the Gearloose-branch one generation above Scroogio. However, this position was occupied by Timothy Gearloose. I can't recall my motivation behind placing Timothy here (I can't even seem to find the story he originates from!). But I decided that Timothy could most likely be pushed one generation into the future to give room for Gustave. This means that Timothy is now Santippe's husband, and Gyro's great-great-great-grandfather. If this causes any problems, let me know.
In other news, I sent an email to the address given on Gilles Maurice's webpage a month ago. I assume he doesn't check it anymore as he has yet to reply.
My utmost congratulations on (probably) finishing! I sure wish we could get ahold of Gilles; I know he'd be proud. Do keep the thread open for finding pictures and the possibility more relatives could be created, though!
One minor correction: the character called "Paper McDuck" on the Gilles tree is the Gone With The Wind version of Scrooge, who you have as "McPaper McDuck." As such you accidentally have him on your tree twice.