The "ultimate" Duck family tree

[mkr]

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Unnamed Duck (Line 1, Square 8): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 1, Square 9): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 2, Square 22): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 2, Square 23): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 2, Square 24): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 2, Square 25): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 2, Square 26): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 3, Square 16): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 3, Square 17): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 3, Square 18): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 4, Square 19): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]

These are indeed all from D 7296. They are all family members from Donald's uncle Douglas and appear in the last panel of that story. The story does not state their exact relationship, but they can be assumed to be his wife/children/grand-children/their partners/etc.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Petunia Van Duck: H 89136 (Only Appearance) [SCAN NEEDED]

A scan of Petunia does not exist. She is only mentioned in H 89136. She does not appear in the story. I think that might be the case for some other relatives which you gave the designation [SCAN NEEDED], but I cannot check those stories now.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Duílio Duck

Duílio is one of those unnamed relatives from The Overnight Hero that was given a name by Maurice based on the Brazilian translation of YD 68-09-23. At least, in that translation the name Duílio appears. I don't have The Overnight Hero here to check if the scan comes from that story, but if that is the case, his name can better be changed to one of the English names from YD 68-09-23.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Buckaroo ‘2-Gun’ Duck: Mentioned in W DG 38-01, Picture Unknown

I think it is a combined character. 2-Gun Duck is from the family tree in W DG 38-01. The picture is from Buckaroo Duck or Buck Duck. See INDUCKS.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Unnamed Duck (Line 3, Square 39)
    [The above duck is below Dudley Duck and Douglas Duck]

I think it is one of those relatives from The Overnight Hero, but I cannot check it.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Dora (Line 3, Square 49)

Maybe Donald's cousin from YD 38-08-12.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Agnes

This is Agnes Van Trott, an aunt of Donald and Gladstone, from D 2000-110.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Fatso McDuck
Ben Duck
Wilhelmina Gadwall

Fatso is a cousin of Scrooge, mentioned by Scrooge in W WDC 298-01. He is not confirmed to be a McDuck, but that is a possibility.

Ben is an uncle of Daisy, mentioned by her in D 2010-072, when Daisy is preparing for her wedding.

Wilhelmina is a cousin of Grandma Duck in D 88113. At least, that is her name in the Dutch translation. She may have a different name in the original script.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Count of Duckcyzk

Duckcyzk is Donald's great-uncle from D 2004-280 and D 2009-100.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Tom Duck
Gubert Gander

Tom Duck is I think Tom Paper, a cousin of Donald's grandfather in I TL 582-A.
Gubert is a great-uncle of Gladstone mentioned in I TL 337-B. I don't know if it is his original name.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

MacHavaro MacShato

MacHavaro is Scrooge's uncle, who is implied to be the father of Harpagão MacShato from B 72017.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Unnamed Duck (Line 5, Square 59)
Gregor McDuck
    [This duck is between Angus McDuck and Paperin Parodi]

The unnamed Duck is seen in the same story as Angus McDuck (D 7048). She can be assumed to be his wife.
Gregor McDuck should be from D 4779, but I cannot confirm if his name is really Gregor McDuck in the original script.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Dukker
Zebedeus Duck

Dukker is actually Duckker from S 76120.
Zebedeus is Donald's great-great-uncle mentioned in H 88117. Donald recieves an inheritance.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Unnamed Duck (Line 7, Square 8)
    [This duck is below Dukker, Patagão and Hortensia]
? Von Pattus
Unnamed Duck (Line 7, Square 17)
    [This duck is beside Crockett Duck]

The unnamed Duck from square 8 is Grandma's great-grandmother from I TL 1677-B.
Von Pattus is Ludwig's great-grandfather from B 810003.
The unnamed Duck from square 17 is Nonna Papera ("Grandma Duck") from I TL 683-A.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Ebenezer McDuck
Unnamed Duck (Line 9, Square 20)
    [This duck is between Hamish McDuck and Drake McDuck]

Ebenezer McDuck is I think Old Ebeneeza from S 67019
The unnamed duck is an ancestor from D 7236. I think he should have a name in the story, but I don't know which one.

[alquackskey]

Oct 27, 2022 9:09:48 GMT mkr said:

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Unnamed Duck (Line 1, Square 8): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 1, Square 9): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 2, Square 22): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 2, Square 23): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 2, Square 24): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 2, Square 25): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 2, Square 26): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 3, Square 16): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 3, Square 17): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 3, Square 18): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]
Unnamed Duck (Line 4, Square 19): D 7296 [UNVERIFIED]

These are indeed all from D 7296. They are all family members from Donald's uncle Douglas and appear in the last panel of that story. The story does not state their exact relationship, but they can be assumed to be his wife/children/grand-children/their partners/etc.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Petunia Van Duck: H 89136 (Only Appearance) [SCAN NEEDED]

A scan of Petunia does not exist. She is only mentioned in H 89136. She does not appear in the story. I think that might be the case for some other relatives which you gave the designation [SCAN NEEDED], but I cannot check those stories now.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Duílio Duck

Duílio is one of those unnamed relatives from The Overnight Hero that was given a name by Maurice based on the Brazilian translation of YD 68-09-23. At least, in that translation the name Duílio appears. I don't have The Overnight Hero here to check if the scan comes from that story, but if that is the case, his name can better be changed to one of the English names from YD 68-09-23.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Buckaroo ‘2-Gun’ Duck: Mentioned in W DG 38-01, Picture Unknown

I think it is a combined character. 2-Gun Duck is from the family tree in W DG 38-01. The picture is from Buckaroo Duck or Buck Duck. See INDUCKS.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Unnamed Duck (Line 3, Square 39)
    [The above duck is below Dudley Duck and Douglas Duck]

I think it is one of those relatives from The Overnight Hero, but I cannot check it.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Dora (Line 3, Square 49)

Maybe Donald's cousin from YD 38-08-12.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Agnes

This is Agnes Van Trott, an aunt of Donald and Gladstone, from D 2000-110.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Fatso McDuck
Ben Duck
Wilhelmina Gadwall

Fatso is a cousin of Scrooge, mentioned by Scrooge in W WDC 298-01. He is not confirmed to be a McDuck, but that is a possibility.

Ben is an uncle of Daisy, mentioned by her in D 2010-072, when Daisy is preparing for her wedding.

Wilhelmina is a cousin of Grandma Duck in D 88113. At least, that is her name in the Dutch translation. She may have a different name in the original script.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Count of Duckcyzk

Duckcyzk is Donald's great-uncle from D 2004-280 and D 2009-100.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Tom Duck
Gubert Gander

Tom Duck is I think Tom Paper, a cousin of Donald's grandfather in I TL 582-A.
Gubert is a great-uncle of Gladstone mentioned in I TL 337-B. I don't know if it is his original name.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

MacHavaro MacShato

MacHavaro is Scrooge's uncle, who is implied to be the father of Harpagão MacShato from B 72017.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Unnamed Duck (Line 5, Square 59)
Gregor McDuck
    [This duck is between Angus McDuck and Paperin Parodi]

The unnamed Duck is seen in the same story as Angus McDuck (D 7048). She can be assumed to be his wife.
Gregor McDuck should be from D 4779, but I cannot confirm if his name is really Gregor McDuck in the original script.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Dukker
Zebedeus Duck

Dukker is actually Duckker from S 76120.
Zebedeus is Donald's great-great-uncle mentioned in H 88117. Donald recieves an inheritance.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Unnamed Duck (Line 7, Square 8)
    [This duck is below Dukker, Patagão and Hortensia]
? Von Pattus
Unnamed Duck (Line 7, Square 17)
    [This duck is beside Crockett Duck]

The unnamed Duck from square 8 is Grandma's great-grandmother from I TL 1677-B.
Von Pattus is Ludwig's great-grandfather from B 810003.
The unnamed Duck from square 17 is Nonna Papera ("Grandma Duck") from I TL 683-A.

Oct 27, 2022 2:07:53 GMT alquackskey said:

Ebenezer McDuck
Unnamed Duck (Line 9, Square 20)
    [This duck is between Hamish McDuck and Drake McDuck]

Ebenezer McDuck is I think Old Ebeneeza from S 67019
The unnamed duck is an ancestor from D 7236. I think he should have a name in the story, but I don't know which one.

Thank you so much, this is a major help!
I've made adjustments for most of them - the index has now been updated, as has the verification/missing list.
There were a few, though, that I wasn't sure about:

For Unnamed Duck (Line 3, Square 39), I left it as being uncertain for now, just to be safe.

For Dora (Line 3, Square 49), the strip mentioned is already on the tree - for a different Dora.
There are four Doras on the tree, which has been very confusing - if you think that I should swap the Dora that's currently labelled with the strip in question, I'd be willing to rethink things!

Tom Duck I marked with the source listed, but as [UNVERIFIED] - again, just to lean on the safe side.

Zebedeus Duck is the last character causing confusion; there are two Zebedeus Ducks on the tree.
Since you say that Zebedeus is a great great uncle, that would put him as the earlier one, who is currently marked with the above-mentioned strip.
I'm not sure where the idea of there being a second Zebedeus came from, but I'm rolling with it currently.

On the note of characters with [SCAN NEEDED], you're most likely right; they do seem like characters that were only mentioned.
The reason that I have them marked as [SCAN NEEDED] is because of the layout of the tree - if a character's space is entirely blank, I took it as being the case that there's no information on the character. Even if they're highly likely to be mentioned rather than shown, I marked them as needing a scan just to be on the safe side.

Thank you again for your help!
You've put us much closer to having them all!

[mkr]

Oct 27, 2022 18:15:00 GMT mkr said:

Oct 27, 2022 15:20:46 GMT alquackskey said:

For Dora (Line 3, Square 49), the strip mentioned is already on the tree - for a different Dora.
There are four Doras on the tree, which has been very confusing - if you think that I should swap the Dora that's currently labelled with the strip in question, I'd be willing to rethink things!

Ah, I missed the Dora that is the sister from Fethry. But after some thinking, I have an idea where the extra Dora comes from. But to be sure, let's sumarize all Dora's:
1. Dora Duck, in between Drunella and Agatha. This should be Daisy's aunt Dora from D 99218.
2. The Dora that is the wife of Dave. This should be Donald's aunt Dora from YD 68-09-23, in which also uncle Dave is mentioned.
3. Dora Duck as Duncan's mother. You identified her as Donald's cousin from YD 38-08-12. And there are also other fan theories on the internet that Fethry's sister and Ducan's mother is called Dora. I believe someone ever suggested that it could also be the same Dora as the one from the Chit-Chat Society. So I think that would be fine to have Donald's cousin Dora there. 
4. The currently unidentified Dora that is the wife of Décio.

The solution to the problem is that Décio himself should not be on the tree at all. His picture is from the Overnight Hero, but his name is not. Décio is one of the names in the Brazilian translation of YD 68-09-23. In the English version he is called Dave. So, Dave and Dora are the same ones as Décio and Dora. One of those pairs needs I think to be removed.

After some more consideration. I think that the confusion of assigning names from the Brazilian translation of YD 68-09-23 to unnamed cousins from the Overnight Hero has resulted in more duplications in the family tree.
Domingos Duck is the same one as Dominic Barbosa.
Dario and Dino are the same ones as Dick and Dexter.
Día is the same one as Daphne.
Douglas Duck is now twice on the tree as Donald’s cousin.
And if the scan of Duílio is indeed from the Overnight Hero, then he is already on the tree as Duncan Barbosa or Dwight Barbosa. (the English version gives more names than the Brazilian one)
For Danilo I am not sure if he was already named as such in the Overnight Hero, or if Maurice also took it from Brazilian version of YD 68-09-23. In that case he is the same one as Derick Duck.

So, there are two ways to solve this, I think.
1. The duplicates are removed by combining the English names from YD 68-09-23 with the Overnight Hero pictures.
2. Or the Brazilian names themselves are just removed from the Overnight Hero pictures and they are given no name at all, while the YD 68-09-23 ducks are considered other relatives.

[TheMidgetMoose]

Oct 29, 2022 14:52:34 GMT alquackskey said:

Oct 29, 2022 14:29:21 GMT TheMidgetMoose said:

mkr  and alquackskey , Gladstone's aunt is from I TL 2057-2. Source: An old version of Daphne Duck's Scrooge McDuck Wiki page from back when it was believed that the aunt character was Daphne herself (link).

Excellent, thank you!!!
I'll adjust for this in the index!

Just looked at the list a little more, and I believe you had the academic-looking fellow who is listed as the father of Danilo, Dudley, Douglas, and Daniel Duck as still missing a source. He is from the last panel of The Overnight Hero (W DD 91-01), one of the many unnamed Duck family members at the Duck family reunion.

[alquackskey]

Oct 29, 2022 15:03:33 GMT TheMidgetMoose said:

Oct 29, 2022 14:52:34 GMT alquackskey said:

Excellent, thank you!!!
I'll adjust for this in the index!

Just looked at the list a little more, and I believe you had the academic-looking fellow who is listed as the father of Danilo, Dudley, Douglas, and Daniel Duck as still missing a source. He is from the last panel of The Overnight Hero (W DD 91-01), one of the many unnamed Duck family members at the Duck family reunion.

Ahh, okay - given the placement, I had assumed that he was from that story, but wasn't willing to put it down as I had nothing to go on.

Thank you for that, I'll add him to the index!

[alquackskey]

So, as mentioned, I've been trying to make a proper index for each character on the tree. I'm slowly ticking through, but just wanted to upload my progress for the first two lines - just to get feedback on the format, and to see if people are happy with it or if it could do with some changes.



I want this to be clear and comprehensive, so any and all feedback is welcome!

(Apologies for the lines - Formatting got nasty. I'll try to find a workaround for when the index is actually done)

LINE 1:



Socrates Gosling [AKA Cousin Sock]

Origin: US

YD 44-04-05 (First Appearance)



Pepper Gosling [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Italy

I TL 2133-3 (First Appearance)



Unnamed Goose 1

Origin: US

House of Mouse – Clarabelle’s Big Secret



Unnamed Goose 2

Origin: US

House of Mouse – Clarabelle’s Big Secret



Abigail Gabbie

Origin: US

The Aristocats (First Linked: House of Mouse – Clarabelle’s Big Secret)



Amelia Gabbie

Origin: US

The Aristocats (First Linked: House of Mouse – Clarabelle’s Big Secret)



Baldwin Von Drake [Baldo de Paperi]

Origin: Italy

I TL 1294-A (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck

Origin: Denmark

D 7296 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck

Origin: Denmark

D 7296 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck:



Unnamed Duck:



Unnamed Duck:



Unnamed Duck:



Unnamed Duck

Origin: US

W DD 91-01 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck

Origin: US

W DD 91-01 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck

Origin: US

W DD 91-01 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck

Origin: US

W DD 91-01 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck

Origin: US

W DD 91-01 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck

Origin: US

W DD 91-01 (Only Appearance)



John Loon [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Italy

I TL 696-A (Only Appearance)



Sandy Loon [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Italy

I TL 696-A (Only Appearance)



Bob Loon [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Italy

I TL 696-A (Only Appearance)



Joe Loon [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Italy

I TL 696-A (Only Appearance)



Cindy Loon [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Italy

I TL 696-A (Only Appearance)



Flip Loon [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Italy

I TL 696-A (Only Appearance)



Mac Loon [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Italy

I TL 696-A (Only Appearance)



Eighth Child of Sam and Sally [Unnamed]

Origin: Italy

I TL 696-A (Only Appearance)



Dugan Duck [Biquinho]

Origin: Brazil

B 810311 (First Appearance)



Dim-Witty Duck Junior [Dimmy]

Origin: US

W JW 3-02 (First Appearance)



Shamrock Gander

Origin: US

W OS 649-06 (First Appearance)



Elise Gander [Originally Unnamed]

Origin: US [Name Origin: France]

W OS 649-06 (Only Appearance)



Rose Gander [Originally Unnamed]

Origin: US [Name Origin: France]

W OS 649-06 (Only Appearance)



Detlev Duck [Unverified]

Origin: Denmark [Unverified]

D 9970 (Only Appearance) [SCAN NEEDED]



Franklin Rockerduck [Franklin Weems Youry Rockerduck]

Origin: Denmark

D 6106 (Only Appearance)



Patrick Rockerduck [Patrick Carrol Rockerduck]

Origin: Denmark

D 6106 (Only Appearance)



Samuel Rockerduck [Samuel Schwartz Rockerduck]

Origin: Denmark

D 6106 (Only Appearance)



Arsène Rockerduck [Pepito Rockerduck]

Origin: Foreign Market Stories

S 72142 (Only Appearance)



Ilary Duck

Origin: Italy

I TL 2806-3 (Only Appearance)



Huey Duck

Origin: US

ZS 37-10-17 (First Appearance)



Dewey Duck

Origin: US

ZS 37-10-17 (First Appearance)



Louie Duck

Origin: US

ZS 37-10-17 (First Appearance)



Donald Jr. [Originally Unnamed]

Origin: US

How to Have an Accident at Work



Unnamed de Canard

Origin: Denmark

D 92071 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed de Canard

Origin: Denmark

D 92071 (Only Appearance)



Bucky McDuck [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 6572 (Only Appearance)



April Duck

Origin: US

W WDC 149-01 (First Appearance)



May Duck

Origin: US

W WDC 149-01 (First Appearance)



June Duck

Origin: US

W WDC 149-01 (First Appearance)



Desmond Duck [Surname Unverified]

Origin: US

W DD 153-03 (Only Appearance)



Paperella Duck [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Italy

I TL 1688-A (Only Appearance)



Dottie [Surname Unverified]

Origin: US

YD 41-11-13 (First Appearance)



Violeta

Origin: Brazil

Brazil: O Pato Donald (Abril) #235 [Story Not Indexed]







LINE 2:



Humphrey Gokart [Umperio Bogarto]

Origin: Italy

I TL 1389-A (First appearance)



Deleterio Gokart [Deleterio Bogarto]

Origin: Italy

I TL 2305-6 (Only Appearance)



Unknown Male



Unknown Male



Unknown Male



Unknown Male



Kildare Coot [Sgrizzo]

Origin: Italy

I TL 465-B (First Appearance)



Dorinda

Origin: Denmark

D 97076 (Only Appearance) [SCAN NEEDED]



Johann [Name ‘Johann’ comes from German, original name unknown]

Origin: Denmark

D 6190 (Only Appearance)



Greta Goose

Origin: US

W WDC 141-04 (Only Appearance)



Ramrod Goose [Gorm] [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 2004-121 (Only Appearance)



Artemio Goose [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Italy

I TL 2447-5 (Only Appearance)



Rimpinzio Goose [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Italy

I TL 2646-5 (Only Appearance)



Gus Goose

Origin: US

YD 38-05-09



Gertie Goose [Surname Unverified]

Origin: US

Mickey’s Once Upon a Christmas



Cuthbert Coot

[Origin: US]

W WDC 55-02 (First Appearance)



Wilbert Gadwall [Original Name Unknown]

Origin: Denmark

D 2005-317 (Only Appearance)



Uncle Waldo

Origin: US

The Aristocats (First Linked: House of Mouse – Clarabelle’s Big Secret)



Unknown



Unnamed Goose

Origin: US

House of Mouse – Clarabelle’s Big Secret



Unknown



Unnamed Duck

Origin: Denmark

D 7296 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck

Origin: Denmark

D 7296 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck

Origin: Denmark

D 7296 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck

Origin: Denmark

D 7296 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck

Origin: Denmark

D 7296 (Only Appearance)



Fritz Duck [Original Name Unknown]

Origin: Foreign Market Stories

S 63051 (Only Appearance)



Theobald Duck [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Brazil

B 910212 (Only Appearance)



Landy Duck [Name Unverified]

Origin: Foreign Market Stories

S 71377 [UNVERIFIED]



Molly [Name Unverified]

Origin: Foreign Market Stories

S 71377 [UNVERIFIED]



Flink Duck [Name Unverified]

Origin: Foreign Market Stories

S 63111 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck

Origin: Italy

I DMR 8-15 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck

Origin: Italy

I DMR 8-15 (Only Appearance)



Dawn

Origin: US

YD 68-09-23 (Mentioned Only)



Dick

Origin: US

YD 68-09-23 (Mentioned Only)



Dexter

Origin: US

YD 68-09-23 (Mentioned Only)



Alonzo Alvarez [Name Unverified]

Origin: Argentina

XA EPD 308 [UNVERIFIED]



Derick Duck [Surname Unofficial]

Origin: US

YD 68-09-23 (Mentioned Only)



Douglas Duck [Surname Unofficial]

Origin: US

YD 68-09-23 (Mentioned Only)



Duncan Barbosa [Surname Unofficial]

Origin: US

YD 68-09-23 (Mentioned Only)



Dwight Barbosa [Surname Unofficial]

Origin: US

YD 68-09-23 (Mentioned Only)



Dominic Barbosa [Surname Unofficial]

Origin: US

YD 68-09-23 (Mentioned Only)



Dennis Barbosa [Surname Unofficial]

Origin: US

YD 68-09-23 (Mentioned Only)



Mehitabel Mudhen

Origin: US

W WDC 74-01 (Mentioned Only)



Gorbinian Duck [Name Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 8662 (Only Appearance) [SCAN NEEDED]



Danilo Duck [Originally Unnamed]

Origin: US [Name Origin: Unknown, presumably Italy]

W DD 91-01 (Only Appearance)



Dudley Duck [Dudly D. Duck]

Origin: US

W DD 136-01 (First Appearance)



Douglas Duck [Originally Unnamed]

Origin: US

W DD 91-01 (Only Appearance)



Daniel Duck [Cousin Dan]

Origin: US

W DD 61-03 (First Appearance)



Dicky Drake

Origin: US

W DD 91-01 (Only Appearance)



Jake Duck [Jake Paper]

Origin: Italy

I PK 22-1 (Only Appearance)



Duílio Duck [Originally Unnamed]

Origin: US

W DD 91-01 (Only Appearance)



Bugsy Duck [Bugs]

Origin: Netherlands

H 87048 (Only Proper Appearance)



Dali Duck [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 2459 (Only Appearance)



Cosmo Duck

Origin: US

W DD 91-01 (Only Appearance)



Domingos Duck [Originally Unnamed]

Origin: US

W DD 91-01 (Only Appearance)



Dario Duck [Originally Unnamed]

Origin: US

W DD 91-01 (Only Appearance)



Ronald Duck [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 2004-149 (Only Appearance)



Volfram Duck [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 2021-013 (Only Appearance)



Buck Duck

Origin: US

W DD 91-01 (Only Appearance)



Dino Duck [Originally Unnamed]

Origin: US

W DD 91-01 (Only Appearance)



Pingo

Origin: Italy

I TL 2252-2 (First Appearance)



Hackney McWebfoot [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 2006-286 (Only Appearance)



Paperozzo McWak [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Italy

I TL 484-A (Only Appearance)



Sam Loon [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Italy

I TL 696-A (Only Appearance)



Sally

Origin: Italy

I TL 696-A (Only Appearance)



Fethry Duck

Origin: Foreign Market Stories

S 64008 (First Appearance)



Dora Duck

Origin: US

YD 38-08-12 (Mentioned Only)



Nancy Duck [Surname Unverified]

Origin: US

W DD 148-03 (Only Appearance)



Dim-witty Duck

Origin: US

W WDC 330-01 (First Appearance)



Gladstone Gander

Origin: US

W WDC 88-02 (First Appearance)



Oscar Gander [Oscar Paperone]

Origin: Italy

I TL 363-A (First Appearance)



Sadstone Gander [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 2014-056 (Only Appearance)



Disraeli Grebe [Disraeli Duck in-story] [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 2010-056



Fred Duck [Original Name Unverified] [Translated Surname Unverified]

Origin: Netherlands

H 85125 (Only Appearance)



Lizzie Duck [Surname Unofficial]

Origin: US

YD 41-06-18 (Mentioned Only)



Ricky Rockerduck [Ricky Rock]

Origin: Italy

I TL 2001-3 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Rockerduck

Origin: Italy

I TL 1852-A (Only Appearance)



Unknown



Zenone O’ Drake [Zenone Anatrone - UNVERIFIED]

Origin: Italy

Either I TL 442-A or I CWD 34-A [UNVERIFIED]



Unnamed Duck

Origin: US

W DD 179-01 (First Appearance? Only Appearance? Debatable.)



Mel Mallard

Origin: US

Quack Pack – Huey Duck, P.I.



Della Duck [Dumbella Duck, Thelma Duck]

Origin: US

D 93288 (First Live Appearance)



Mr. Duck [No Official Name]

Origin: US, technically

Qus/CBL 6HA (No Canonical Appearances)



Champion Duck [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 2635 (Mentioned Only)



Berta Duck [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 96172 (Only Appearance) [SCAN NEEDED]



Donald Duck

Origin: US

ZS 3403 (First Appearance)



Wee Angus McDuck

Origin: US

W DD 65-01 (Only Appearance)



Melchior McDuck [Surname Unofficial]

Origin: France

F SPG 07001 (Only Appearance)



Tom Duck

Origin: US

W WDC 285-02 (Only Appearance)



Drake Duck

Origin: US

W WDC 285-02 (Only Appearance)



Harry Duck

Origin: US

W WDC 285-02 (Only Appearance)



Whitewater Duck

Origin: US

W WDC 267-02 (First Appearance)



Daphné Duck [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Netherlands

H 26240 (Only Appearance)



Jeff

Origin: Netherlands

H 26240 (Only Appearance)



Dietbald McDuck [Alec de’ Paperoni]

Origin: Foreign Market Stories

S 71021 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed de Canard

Origin: Denmark

D 92071 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed de Canard

Origin: Denmark

D 92071 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed de Canard

Origin: Denmark

D 92071 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed de Canard

Origin: Denmark

D 92071 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed de Canard

Origin: Denmark

D 92071 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed de Canard

Origin: Denmark

D 92071 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed de Canard

Origin: Denmark

D 92071 (Only Appearance)



Bran McDuck [Robby McDuck – UNVERIFIED]

Origin: Denmark

D 6572 (Only Appearance)



Glomgold Junior [Junior]

Origin: Foreign Market Stories

S 88020 (Only Appearance)



Slackjaw Snorehead [Slaphans Papand]

Origin: Denmark

D 2005-197 (First Appearance)



Bruce McDuck [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 8824 (Only Appearance)



Cedric Canvasback

Origin: US

W DD 30-04 (Only Appearance)



Zeke Mocksson [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 2001-168 (Only Appearance) [UNVERIFIED]



Ellie May Duckfield [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 2001-168 (Only Appearance) [UNVERIFIED]



Unnamed Duck:



Dankwart Denklich [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 91382 (Only Appearance)



Duck Boy [Paper Boy]

Origin: Italy

I PM 173-2 (Mentioned Only)



Gandy [Name Unverified]

Origin: Foreign Market Stories

S 77142 [UNVERIFIED]



Pierre [Possibly not a relative? Specifically referred to as ‘My friend, Pierre’]

Origin: US

W OS 686-02 (Mentioned Only)



Eggbert Van Duck [Surname Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 95113 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck:

[Only lead is this post featherysociety.proboards.com/post/24893/thread]



Beckey

Origin: US

YD 48-02-27 (Mentioned Only)



Teensy Whiffle [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 2000-046 (Only Appearance)



Dustin Van Duck [Surname Unofficial]

Origin: US

First Mentioned YD 45-11-12, First Assumed Appearance YD 47-08-15



Delila Van Duck [Surname Unverified]

Origin: US

W OS 743-05 (Only Appearance)



Gertrude [Gertrude Goose]

Origin: US

ZD 41-07-06 (Only Appearance)



Daisy Duck

Origin: US

YD 40-11-04 (First Appearance)



Unknown Female



Daisy’s Brother [Unnamed]

Origin: US

Donald’s Diary



Daisy’s Brother [Unnamed]

Origin: US

Donald’s Diary



Daisy’s Brother [Unnamed]

Origin: US

Donald’s Diary



Unknown



Angela [Anatrella]

Origin: Italy

I TL 1744-D (Only Appearance)



Denis Duck [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Foreign Market Stories

S 65042 (Only Appearance)



Denise Duck [Original Name Unverified]

Origin: Foreign Market Stories

S 65042 (Only Appearance)



Almanda de Quack

Origin: US

Mickey Mouse Mixed-Up Adventures – Daisy’s Photo Finish!



Darla de Quack [Darla Duck – Unverified]

Origin: Denmark

D 2007-430 (Only Appearance)



Unnamed Duck:

[Only lead is this post featherysociety.proboards.com/post/24893/thread]



Annabel Duck [Original Name Unverified – Possibly Paperocchia?]

Origin: Italy

I TL 820-A (Only Appearance)

[mkr]

The whole family tree is now available on the website. See here. It's fully based on LP 's tree, but with a few updates:

I added Daisy’s aunt Daphne, Donald’s great-uncle Snater, Daisy’s cousin Ko, Donald’s uncle Kobus, Grandma Duck’s second cousin Neeltje Geertruida and Grandma Duck’s niece Betsie.

I removed some duplicates: Alonso Alvarez, Olle Duck, Rich Duck, and Alvilda. I also removed the Brazilian name duplicates of YD 68-09-23 and updated them to their English names (keeping their pictures from the unnamed Overnight Hero cousins). Consequently, I had to rearrange a few other characters. For Denton, Dan, Derrick and Douglas from YD 68-09-23, I followed TheMidgetMoose 's idea to include them as a second marriage of Gladstone's mother Daphne. 

All characters that have a source, now have a link in the tree. Clicking on any portrait (or on the missing portrait field) brings you to the relevant INDUCKS page, or to IMDb if the character only appeared in a cartoon. 

[stuftmcduck]

Nov 6, 2022 11:02:13 GMT mkr said:

The whole family tree is now available on the website. See here. It's fully based on LP 's tree, but with a few updates:

I added Daisy’s aunt Daphne, Donald’s great-uncle Snater, Daisy’s cousin Ko, Donald’s uncle Kobus, Grandma Duck’s second cousin Neeltje Geertruida and Grandma Duck’s niece Betsie.

I removed some duplicates: Alonso Alvarez, Olle Duck, Rich Duck, and Alvilda. I also removed the Brazilian name duplicates of YD 68-09-23 and updated them to their English names (keeping their pictures from the unnamed Overnight Hero cousins). Consequently, I had to rearrange a few other characters. For Denton, Dan, Derrick and Douglas from YD 68-09-23, I followed TheMidgetMoose 's idea to include them as a second marriage of Gladstone's mother Daphne. 

All characters that have a source, now have a link in the tree. Clicking on any portrait (or on the missing portrait field) brings you to the relevant INDUCKS page, or to IMDb if the character only appeared in a cartoon. 

WOW, that's spectacular!

[TheMidgetMoose]

Nov 6, 2022 11:02:13 GMT mkr said:

The whole family tree is now available on the website. See here. It's fully based on LP 's tree, but with a few updates:

I added Daisy’s aunt Daphne, Donald’s great-uncle Snater, Daisy’s cousin Ko, Donald’s uncle Kobus, Grandma Duck’s second cousin Neeltje Geertruida and Grandma Duck’s niece Betsie.

I removed some duplicates: Alonso Alvarez, Olle Duck, Rich Duck, and Alvilda. I also removed the Brazilian name duplicates of YD 68-09-23 and updated them to their English names (keeping their pictures from the unnamed Overnight Hero cousins). Consequently, I had to rearrange a few other characters. For Denton, Dan, Derrick and Douglas from YD 68-09-23, I followed TheMidgetMoose 's idea to include them as a second marriage of Gladstone's mother Daphne. 

All characters that have a source, now have a link in the tree. Clicking on any portrait (or on the missing portrait field) brings you to the relevant INDUCKS page, or to IMDb if the character only appeared in a cartoon. 

Great job, mkr ! Wow! I am amazed at the talent and dedication that this forum brings out in people! If it's not too much, then I'd recommend having some information about the trees that led to the creation of this tree in the About section, specifically, of course, Gilles Maurice's tree and LP 's tree, which I guess is currently somewhat different from this tree due to the changes you've made (though I guess LP's next update might make the trees more congruent; we shall see ). Also, since you don't seem to have done it yet, give yourself some credit for putting this whole website together! Oh and don't forget alquackskey 's work on getting explanation table information together! Man, I love this community. It would be too hard to credit everyone whose research in some way contributed to the tree, but I personally think it would be great to at least mention some of the highlights. Oh, and also to make it abundantly clear this is a fanmade tree and that not all the relationships in it are confirmed by canonical sources. I mean, it's pretty close to canon, but there are some things that are still up for interpretation from a canonical standpoint, and we don't want to burden future Duck authors with a vision of the Duck family tree that they don't like just because they found the tree on the Internet and assumed it was official.

EDIT: Oh, and how could I forget? Thank you for including my little idea about Denton and Daphne. I still would like to hear some confirmation one way or another as to whether Goosetave mentions Daphne's whereabouts in Discipline, but until then, I think the theory makes some sense and does help to simplify the tree a little bit, as does combining the Overnight Hero ducks with the names from YD 68-09-23, combining various "Scrooge's grandfather" characters into a single character, combining various "Grandma's grandma" characters, etc.

[alquackskey]

Nov 6, 2022 11:02:13 GMT mkr said:

The whole family tree is now available on the website. See here. It's fully based on LP 's tree, but with a few updates:

I added Daisy’s aunt Daphne, Donald’s great-uncle Snater, Daisy’s cousin Ko, Donald’s uncle Kobus, Grandma Duck’s second cousin Neeltje Geertruida and Grandma Duck’s niece Betsie.

I removed some duplicates: Alonso Alvarez, Olle Duck, Rich Duck, and Alvilda. I also removed the Brazilian name duplicates of YD 68-09-23 and updated them to their English names (keeping their pictures from the unnamed Overnight Hero cousins). Consequently, I had to rearrange a few other characters. For Denton, Dan, Derrick and Douglas from YD 68-09-23, I followed TheMidgetMoose 's idea to include them as a second marriage of Gladstone's mother Daphne. 

All characters that have a source, now have a link in the tree. Clicking on any portrait (or on the missing portrait field) brings you to the relevant INDUCKS page, or to IMDb if the character only appeared in a cartoon. 

Excellent work! It has come together quite well, I'm impressed!

Would you still like me to go ahead with the indexing? I've noticed some minor errors that I've corrected in my search, and it might be helpful to get a clear understanding of whose names are official/unofficial etc

It's up to you, though!

[sim]

Nov 6, 2022 20:26:40 GMT TheMidgetMoose said:

Nov 6, 2022 11:02:13 GMT mkr said:

The whole family tree is now available on the website. See here. It's fully based on LP 's tree, but with a few updates:

I added Daisy’s aunt Daphne, Donald’s great-uncle Snater, Daisy’s cousin Ko, Donald’s uncle Kobus, Grandma Duck’s second cousin Neeltje Geertruida and Grandma Duck’s niece Betsie.

I removed some duplicates: Alonso Alvarez, Olle Duck, Rich Duck, and Alvilda. I also removed the Brazilian name duplicates of YD 68-09-23 and updated them to their English names (keeping their pictures from the unnamed Overnight Hero cousins). Consequently, I had to rearrange a few other characters. For Denton, Dan, Derrick and Douglas from YD 68-09-23, I followed TheMidgetMoose 's idea to include them as a second marriage of Gladstone's mother Daphne. 

All characters that have a source, now have a link in the tree. Clicking on any portrait (or on the missing portrait field) brings you to the relevant INDUCKS page, or to IMDb if the character only appeared in a cartoon. 

Great job, mkr ! Wow! I am amazed at the talent and dedication that this forum brings out in people! If it's not too much, then I'd recommend having some information about the trees that led to the creation of this tree in the About section, specifically, of course, Gilles Maurice's tree and LP 's tree, which I guess is currently somewhat different from this tree due to the changes you've made (though I guess LP's next update might make the trees more congruent; we shall see ). Also, since you don't seem to have done it yet, give yourself some credit for putting this whole website together! Oh and don't forget alquackskey 's work on getting explanation table information together! Man, I love this community. It would be too hard to credit everyone whose research in some way contributed to the tree, but I personally think it would be great to at least mention some of the highlights. Oh, and also to make it abundantly clear this is a fanmade tree and that not all the relationships in it are confirmed by canonical sources. I mean, it's pretty close to canon, but there are some things that are still up for interpretation from a canonical standpoint, and we don't want to burden future Duck authors with a vision of the Duck family tree that they don't like just because they found the tree on the Internet and assumed it was official.

EDIT: Oh, and how could I forget? Thank you for including my little idea about Denton and Daphne. I still would like to hear some confirmation one way or another as to whether Goosetave mentions Daphne's whereabouts in Discipline, but until then, I think the theory makes some sense and does help to simplify the tree a little bit, as does combining the Overnight Hero ducks with the names from YD 68-09-23, combining various "Scrooge's grandfather" characters into a single character, combining various "Grandma's grandma" characters, etc.

No clues about Daphne in the Goosetave story, as I already wrote here.

[TheMidgetMoose]

Nov 7, 2022 18:14:02 GMT Matilda said:

I have the Bananas story which features Amanda in French, which I can read, and in Danish, which I cannot. In French (JM 1919) she is called Mathilde, no last name given. She went to Bandango with her grandparents (*not* “our” grandparents, so they must not be the grandparents she had in common with Elvira) around 60 years ago. Grandma Duck refers to her as “our cousin” and finds her lost letter at Scrooge’s house, so it appears to me that this story is working on the assumption that Elvira and Scrooge are siblings. Scrooge certainly remembers her as well. The Ducks find her alive and well and living happily among the Indians. Presumably the grandparents are long dead.

In Danish she is called Amanda, which I prefer because we have enough Matildas. When Donald asks a local whether he’s heard of her, he calls her Amanda And (Duck). (In the French version, he just asks about “a certain Mathilde”.)

Thank you, Matilda! I thought that you would have the necessary information about this character. Her last name being "Duck" obviously isn't a great thing for English-speaking Duck genealogists, since neither Elvira nor Scrooge should (at least from a Rosa/post-Rosa perspective) have too many biological relatives with the surname "Duck." LP does have a place on his tree for biological cousins of Grandma Duck with the surname "Duck." Indeed, if the Duck last name is the official last name as of now, Amanda could be placed as the sister of (in LP's tree) Grandma's third cousin Pieretto Duck. However, I believe that LP based his position for Amanda on the fact that she is said to be cousin of both Elvira and Scrooge, hence why he made Amanda's grandmother (but not Elvira's grandmother) be Scrooge's great-grandaunt, which would make Scrooge and Amanda be third cousins once removed. If the Scrooge-Amanda cousin relationship is kept and Amanda is moved to the part of the tree for cousins of Elvira with the surname "Duck," then Scrooge's family would somehow have to tie in to this branch. I'm now wondering if a few branches of LP's tree need to be somehow combined (and I am not creative enough to figure out how they are to be combined). These branches are:

• The branch of the tree for cousins or uncles of both Elvira and Scrooge - Paperonzo (Elvira's "great-uncle" and Scrooge's "uncle," which may just be short for "great-uncle"), Gustavo ("uncle" of both Elvira and Scrooge, I believe) and Amanda ("cousin" of both Elvira and Scrooge). Dorinda does not have to be a part of this new, reconstructed branch since she is stated only to be Grandma's second cousin twice removed.
  
• The branch of the tree for relatives of Elvira with the surname Duck - Elvira's great-granduncle Asa Duck, maybe Antonius Duck (I do not know anything about this character), and Pieretto (Elvira's distant cousin who is also a distant relative of the character listed on the tree as "Peter Duck"). Not sure about Buckaroo Duck, but I'm pretty sure that Panhandle is just a relative of Donald's and doesn't have to be on this new, potential branch of the tree.
  
• The branch of the tree for cousins or uncles of Scrooge with the surname Duck - Swashbuckle Duck (relationship to Scrooge never defined or even confirmed), Edipo (definitely related to Scrooge; not sure if the exact relationship is defined), Douglas McDuck (a cousin of Scrooge's whom LP posits on good grounds should be viewed as "Douglas Duck," since his surname being the same as Donald's is the point of a few panels in one story), Douglas's nephew Whitewater Duck, and Mazuma's nephews Tom, Drake, and Harry (last name not stated for these three).

With enough creativity, I'm sure someone could combine these into a new, composite branch essentially for either characters who are cousins/uncles of both Elvira and Scrooge, or relatives of either Elvira or Scrooge with the surname Duck. Zenone Anatrone, as a cousin of Elvira and Scrooge, should go somewhere on this branch. This changes things quite a bit, of course, and I don't want you to think that I'm trying to totally redo your tree, LP. Just brainstorming in light of the evidence. Maybe Asa is the father of Paperonzo. Paperonzo is the father of Gustavo, Swashbuckle, and the mother of Zenone. Gustavo is the father of Amanda, Pieretto, and Douglas. Pieretto is the father of Whitewater. Swashbuckle is the father of Mazuma and Edipo. Edipo is the father of Tom, Drake, and Harry. Zenone's mother is, of course, the mother of Zenone... I don't know... Something like this might work. One just has to figure out how to get Humperdink's, Elvira's, and Scrooge's ancestors all involved in the origins of this branch somehow. And I'm still trying to work within the confines of LP's interpretations. I personally don't view Swashbuckle as Scrooge's relative but just as Humperdink's brother, and I also keep Whitewater as Eider Duck's son in accordance with Don Rosa's tree, but my goal here is to simply complement, not rebel against, LP's work, which is why we're all here on this thread anyway.

Nov 7, 2022 20:02:47 GMT sim said:

No clues about Daphne in the Goosetave story, as I already wrote here.

Thank you so much, sim! I'm starting that your blog is quite the treasure trove of information. I love it and really need to start reading it more often! Thank you for the link and the information. I'm kind of excited by the fact that the divorce theory could hold water, even if it's not what I had in my headcanon just a few weeks ago. Maybe Goosetave starts checking up on Gladstone more often after this story and meets Matilda McDuck, visiting her own kin in Duckburg, during one of these visits. Now I know that headcanon will probably never catch on with others when the Ludwig and Matilda pairing is still so popular, but I like it and, until contrary evidence arises, I'll stick to it.

[mkr]

Nov 8, 2022 3:04:33 GMT TheMidgetMoose said:

Thank you, Matilda! I thought that you would have the necessary information about this character. Her last name being "Duck" obviously isn't a great thing for English-speaking Duck genealogists, since neither Elvira nor Scrooge should (at least from a Rosa/post-Rosa perspective) have too many biological relatives with the surname "Duck." LP does have a place on his tree for biological cousins of Grandma Duck with the surname "Duck." Indeed, if the Duck last name is the official last name as of now, Amanda could be placed as the sister of (in LP's tree) Grandma's third cousin Pieretto Duck. However, I believe that LP based his position for Amanda on the fact that she is said to be cousin of both Elvira and Scrooge, hence why he made Amanda's grandmother (but not Elvira's grandmother) be Scrooge's great-grandaunt, which would make Scrooge and Amanda be third cousins once removed. If the Scrooge-Amanda cousin relationship is kept and Amanda is moved to the part of the tree for cousins of Elvira with the surname "Duck," then Scrooge's family would somehow have to tie in to this branch. I'm now wondering if a few branches of LP's tree need to be somehow combined (and I am not creative enough to figure out how they are to be combined). These branches are:

• The branch of the tree for cousins or uncles of both Elvira and Scrooge - Paperonzo (Elvira's "great-uncle" and Scrooge's "uncle," which may just be short for "great-uncle"), Gustavo ("uncle" of both Elvira and Scrooge, I believe) and Amanda ("cousin" of both Elvira and Scrooge). Dorinda does not have to be a part of this new, reconstructed branch since she is stated only to be Grandma's second cousin twice removed.
  
• The branch of the tree for relatives of Elvira with the surname Duck - Elvira's great-granduncle Asa Duck, maybe Antonius Duck (I do not know anything about this character), and Pieretto (Elvira's distant cousin who is also a distant relative of the character listed on the tree as "Peter Duck"). Not sure about Buckaroo Duck, but I'm pretty sure that Panhandle is just a relative of Donald's and doesn't have to be on this new, potential branch of the tree.
  
• The branch of the tree for cousins or uncles of Scrooge with the surname Duck - Swashbuckle Duck (relationship to Scrooge never defined or even confirmed), Edipo (definitely related to Scrooge; not sure if the exact relationship is defined), Douglas McDuck (a cousin of Scrooge's whom LP posits on good grounds should be viewed as "Douglas Duck," since his surname being the same as Donald's is the point of a few panels in one story), Douglas's nephew Whitewater Duck, and Mazuma's nephews Tom, Drake, and Harry (last name not stated for these three).

With enough creativity, I'm sure someone could combine these into a new, composite branch essentially for either characters who are cousins/uncles of both Elvira and Scrooge, or relatives of either Elvira or Scrooge with the surname Duck. Zenone Anatrone, as a cousin of Elvira and Scrooge, should go somewhere on this branch. This changes things quite a bit, of course, and I don't want you to think that I'm trying to totally redo your tree, LP. Just brainstorming in light of the evidence. Maybe Asa is the father of Paperonzo. Paperonzo is the father of Gustavo, Swashbuckle, and the mother of Zenone. Gustavo is the father of Amanda, Pieretto, and Douglas. Pieretto is the father of Whitewater. Swashbuckle is the father of Mazuma and Edipo. Edipo is the father of Tom, Drake, and Harry. Zenone's mother is, of course, the mother of Zenone... I don't know... Something like this might work. One just has to figure out how to get Humperdink's, Elvira's, and Scrooge's ancestors all involved in the origins of this branch somehow. And I'm still trying to work within the confines of LP's interpretations. I personally don't view Swashbuckle as Scrooge's relative but just as Humperdink's brother, and I also keep Whitewater as Eider Duck's son in accordance with Don Rosa's tree, but my goal here is to simply complement, not rebel against, LP's work, which is why we're all here on this thread anyway.

I like the idea that the tree could be simplified a bit in this way. One could for example make Dead-Eye Dick Duck a brother of Crockett Duck's unnamed father. Dead-Eye's daughter remains married to a Gadwall (and be the mother of Donaldo), while Dead-Eye's son Asa does not have to be married anymore to a sister of Crockett Duck's wife. He can just be married to an unidentified character, with Paperonzo indeed as his son. Paperonzo can then still be connected to the MacGoose's in the same way he is now. All descendents of Paperonzo will then be related to Scrooge, Grandma and Humperdink. But first we need to know if Amanda's surname is Duck in the original version, because if it is actually Coot, the Coot branch would also need be connected somehow...

Nov 8, 2022 3:31:29 GMT Matilda said:

Well, your rules are your rules, but it doesn’t make sense to me to move cousin Amanda to a different branch of the tree because in the Danish version Donald gives her the last name “And.” If you want to use the original name whenever possible, then you want to find out what name Paul Halas and Dave Angus gave her. I note that according to the Inducks summaries, she’s apparently called Mathilda in German and in Dutch, so maybe Matilda was the original name? And then maybe it’s only the Danish translation that gives her a surname.

The Dutch and German INDUCKS descriptions call her Mathilda Duck. That gives maybe some indication that she has she was Mathilda Duck in the original script, where the Danish translation changed her first name and the French translation just removed her surname. Unless the stories were not translated from the original, but from another translation, or if the translators came up with the first name Mathilda and the last name Duck, independently. 

[mkr]

The family tree on the website has been updated. I corrected some errors, included some links, and I added the newly found characters mentioned in the previous posts. The only thing that I did not yet change is to combine the different branches of shared relatives of Humperdink, Scrooge and Grandma Duck into a single branch, as it requires a larger reorganisation of the tree. 

Below is a complete list of all changes (including previous ones) that have now been made compared to LP 's tree. 

Ko from H 25071 has been added as the brother of Daisy’s cousin Annabel.
Daphne from ZD 73-02-11 has been added as the wife of Daisy’s uncle Dourduck van Duck.
Betsie from H 2010-349 has been added as a daughter of Casey Coot.
Neeltje Geertruida from H 98005 has been added as a grand-daughter of Elias Coot with an unknown mother in between.
The Dutch ancestor from D 2007-077 was added as the grandfather of Schylar van Duck.
Krelis from H 2018-051 has been added as the son of Angus Duck.
Kobus from H 24043 has been added as a brother of Grandma Duck.
Jo from H 91137 has been added as the son of Gumboot.
Kobus from H 26050, and Egbert from H 2016-347 have both been added as a sons of Arnold Duck.

Daisy’s cousin Duck Boy has been renamed to Paper Boy.
Schraalhans McDuck has been renamed to MacPaperon McDuck.
Jason McDuck (a brother of Jim Damon) has been renamed to Giasone McDuck.
Victor McDuck (a brother of Lurch McDuck) has been renamed to Sargasso McDuck.
Wilma McDuck (a sister of Lurch McDuck) has been renamed to Meg McDuck.
Dukker was renamed to Duckker.
Agnes (the wife of Eider Duck) has been renamed Agnes van Trott.
Humperdink’s brother Dinald Duck has been renamed Paperello Duck.
The surname of Haggis McMiliard has been renamed to McMallard. Similarly, for his ancestors.
Daisy’s unnamed grandfather was named Jason Duck.

Snater McMallard from H 2011-134 has been added as a grandson of Haggis McMallard (with an unknown son in between).

Ludwig von Strangeduck (not stated to be related to the McDucks) has been removed, leaving a gray box in his position (the tree could maybe be simplified here a bit, by fully removing his box and also removing the boxes of Ludwing’s unknown parents and grandparents and then connecting the third wife of Diamond to Vermund McWildduck instead, but I did not yet do this).

Sophie McDuck (the wife of MacHavaro MacShato) has been removed, leaving a pink box in her position.
Giasone O’Drake and Dino O’Drake (both brothers of Muckirana) have both been removed.
Olle Duck and Rich Duck (both brothers of Humperdink) have been removed. Olle is a duplicate of Anatrocle Ock and Rich is a duplicate of Buck Duck.
Alvilda van Duck (a duplicate of Giovanna) has been removed. Alvilda’s son Pierre (apparently not a relative but a friend) was also removed.
Alonzo Alvares (son of Evelyn Duck) has been removed, as he is a duplicate of Joao Barbosa.
Melenio Duck was removed (duplicate of Dreary Duck).

Argus McDuck (Quagmire’s son) was removed, as he is a duplicate of Argyle. I put Argyle himself (previously the husband of Agathe) on his position.
Scrooge’s uncle Angus O’Drake was removed. I put Dragomir (formerly a brother of Fergus) in his position.

Zenone O’Drake has been moved. He is not the son of Muckirana anymore, but is now a cousin of Amanda Coot. A box for Zenone’s unknown mother has been added as a sister of Gustavo Coot.

I changed the connection around the unknown father of Morag McDuck. He should have the surname McDuck, but he was a brother of Anatrone O’Drake. So, I made him a brother of Ebenezer McDuck. His wife is now a sibling of the mother of Pat Davison.

A picture was added for Wilhelmina Gadwall.

Pat La Tinhas was disconnected from his wife Agaath McDuck, as Agaath never married. Pat La Tinhas is now married to an unknown McDuck.

I included Paperozzo from I TL 375-A as the son of Donald Butler and Paperella O’Hara. In this way his relationship to Donald and Scrooge is quite hard to describe, without the need to add other unknown characters to the tree. But if anyone has a better suggestion, I am happy to change his position.

The older Zebedeus Duck (a brother of Rufus Duck) was removed, as he seems to be a duplicate of the younger Zebedeus Duck, leaving a blue box in his position.
The younger Zebedeus (who was in the tree as a son of Rufus Duck) has been merged with Scrooge’s great-uncle Zebedeus from H 2013-300. Zebedeus, with the portrait from H 2013-300 is now a brother of Roger O’Drake.

Theobald, who was on the tree as a brother of Fritz and Landy, was moved to the position of the unknown brother of Ludwig von Drake and father of Smorfio.

Finally, there are all changes related to the Family Hero and YD 68-09-23:
The family consisting of Daphne, Denton Duck, Derick Duck and Douglas Duck, have been (re)moved. Daphne Duck (Gladstone’s mother) has now a second marriage to Denton. Their children are Dan, Derrick and Douglas.
I switched Andreas Drake and his wife Andedun Duck. So, Andreas is now a Duck and Andedun is attached by marriage. I made Ronald, Volfram and Cosmo their children. They were previously children of Décio Duck and Dora, but both of them have been removed. Their other children: Dario Duck and Domingos Duck (and Domingos’ son) have been removed.
The other Dora Duck (the one who is married to Dave) has been kept, but her family members have now pictures attached and her son Dick has been replaced by Dickey Drake (who was previously elsewhere on the tree).
Joao Barbosa was made the husband of Kliek Duck. His previous unknown wife was removed. Also, all Joao’s children were moved. These children (Duncan, Dwight, Dominic and Dennis) are now the brothers of Dudley Duck. Their father is an unnamed Overnight Hero duck, who is a son of Buck Duck.
Dia Duck (wife of Willie Waddle) has been removed. Thusnelda is now the wife of Willie Waddle. Daniel Duck (previously a son Thusnelda) is now a son of Otmar Duck. Her other sons, Douglas Duck and Danilo Duck (including Danilo’s children), and her previously unnamed husband have all been removed.
Dino Duck and his unnamed father have been removed. Duílio Duck (son of Dingeman Duck) has been removed as well. Duílio’s unnamed children also.

As for their pictures:
Daphne’s husband Denton got the picture of the former unnamed father of Dino Duck, the picture of Dan was taken from Dario Duck. The picture of Derrick was taken from Danilo Duck. Douglas got the picture of the removed Douglas Duck.
Dora’s husband Dave got the picture of a previously unnamed duck in professor clothes. Dawn got the picture of an unnamed brown-haired son of Duílio, and Dexter got the picture previously given to Dino.
Duncan got the picture of one of the sons of Danilo, Dwight got the picture of Duílio, Dominic got the picture of Domingos and Dennis got the picture of Domingos’ son. Their father got the picture of Décio.
Two unnamed child pictures were left (previously sons of Duílio and Danilo). They were made sons of Buck Duck.

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Nov 26, 2022 17:51:27 GMT alquackskey said:

Hi all! Apologies for taking so long with indexing - lots going on. I'm still ticking away at it, though!

Just wondering if anyone could verify where the pic for Sourdough McDuck comes from? There doesn't seem to be any concrete information on him, but there seems to be some question around whether he actually appeared in the story in question

Any help would be appreciated!

Where is he now on the tree?

Btw, Scrooge's ancestor Douglas McDuck (Sargasso de' Paperoni in Italian, not sure where the name "Douglas" come from) probably didn't even exist, as Scrooge later confesses that he bought all that stuff he's been displaying to audience (most likely statue included) from a junk dealer.