Site like those (or the early works of Gilles Maurice, or other fan made-family trees) are certainly doing an important work, by pointing the attention to stories with obscure relatives, but like real genealogy it is important to no take others' work at face value, but only use it to compare with our own researches. Otherwise you'll end with family trees which go all the way up to Adam and Odin.
I've been thinking about this lately. Especially in relation to the current placement of Ludwig von Drake as Elvira Coot's mother's sister's son. This is based solely on what I've read other people on this forum say, and this statement supposedly comes from the German translation of Duckburg, USA. It would be nice to have proper confirmation of this. Would anyone be able to provide me with a scan of the German version?
I've wondered about this, too. Maybe someday, someone will be able to confirm or deny what the German translation of Duckburg, U.S.A. says. Barn Dance Doctordoes indeed state that Ludwig is Grandma's cousin, but as far as I know, the exact relationship is vague. Who's to say it's not second cousin or first cousin once removed?
Honestly, I wish that Ludwig could be Grandma's paternal cousin. Wouldn't that be so cool to have him as the nephew of another intellectual, the founder of the Junior Woodchucks, Clinton Coot? It's almost an irresistible connection, at least to me.
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I've been thinking about this lately. Especially in relation to the current placement of Ludwig von Drake as Elvira Coot's mother's sister's son. This is based solely on what I've read other people on this forum say, and this statement supposedly comes from the German translation of Duckburg, USA. It would be nice to have proper confirmation of this. Would anyone be able to provide me with a scan of the German version?
I've wondered about this, too. Maybe someday, someone will be able to confirm or deny what the German translation of Duckburg, U.S.A. says. Barn Dance Doctordoes indeed state that Ludwig is Grandma's cousin, but as far as I know, the exact relationship is vague. Who's to say it's not second cousin or first cousin once removed?
Honestly, I wish that Ludwig could be Grandma's paternal cousin. Wouldn't that be so cool to have him as the nephew of another intellectual, the founder of the Junior Woodchucks, Clinton Coot? It's almost an irresistible connection, at least to me.
Ah, I don't think I knew that they confirm "cousins" in Barn Dance Doctor! Well, unless someone finds the relevant scans from the German Duckburg, USA, I guess the Barn Dance Doctor-cousin mention is the most specific confirmation we have for now. And of course, "cousin" is vague enough to include "son of Elvira's maternal aunt". So there is currently nothing arguing against this placement.
I haven't considered Ludwig being Clinton's nephew. I guess them interacting could be fun, if we ever get a story set back in the day, when Clinton was still alive.
Ah, I don't think I knew that they confirm "cousins" in Barn Dance Doctor! Well, unless someone finds the relevant scans from the German Duckburg, USA, I guess the Barn Dance Doctor-cousin mention is the most specific confirmation we have for now. And of course, "cousin" is vague enough to include "son of Elvira's maternal aunt". So there is currently nothing arguing against this placement.
I haven't considered Ludwig being Clinton's nephew. I guess them interacting could be fun, if we ever get a story set back in the day, when Clinton was still alive.
The only thing I know of that doesn't work with Ludwig's current placement on the tree isWalt Disney stating in The Hunting Instinct that Ludwig is Donald's father's brother and that the Drakes are the "paternal side of the family." That, of course, doesn't work too well with Grandma calling him her cousin or with it now being widely accepted that the Ducks are the paternal side of Donald's family. There are a couple ways to possibly fit in this fact.
a) Ludwig von Drake could be Quackmore's half-brother in some way similar to the theory once advocated (and maybe still advocated) by Scrooge MacDuck , with Ludwig as the product of an earlier marriage of Humperdink's. Humperdink's wife was either a Miss Von Drake who reverted to her maiden name after her divorce from Humperdink, with her son following suit, or a Miss ______ who remarried to a Mr. Von Drake, a story similar to Rumpus McFowl's backstory. This theory could be spliced with the "Grandma's cousin" factoid by making Humperdink's first wife be Grandma's aunt. That's a little weird... It means that Grandpa was at one point Grandma's uncle by marriage... Maybe Grandma and her aunt weren't close though, and Humperdink didn't meet Elvira until after his divorce and is just naturally attracted to women from that family.
b) Ludwig could even be an illegitimate half-brother of Quackmore, again, probably through Humperdink since Grandma does not seem to be his mother. This would of course never fly in a comic, and it's made by worse by the fact that, if one wanted for Ludwig to be both Donald's father's brother and his grandmother's cousin, then Humperdink's affair would had to have been with his wife's aunt, thus making this child the paternal half-brother of Quackmore and maternal cousin of Elvira...
c) Walt Disney may have meant Humperdink and not Quackmore when he said "Donald's father." If one subscribes to the idea that Quackmore died when Donald was young and that Donald was essentially raised on Grandma Duck's farm, then Walt may have been thinking not of Donald's biological father but of that man that raised him, Humperdink. This would make Ludwig be the brother of Humperdink rather than his son as proposed in theories a and b. Still, because of the surname difference, Humperdink and Ludwig would have to be half-brothers in some way or perhaps even stepbrothers. Ludwig could also still be Grandma's cousin this way. Perhaps Humperdink's father was briefly married to Elvira's aunt, and Ludwig was the fruit of the union. Actually, I guess Humperdink's father could have stayed married to Elvira's aunt, if Elvira's aunt was the second wife wed after the death of Humperdink's mother, which makes more sense timeline-wise if one assumes that Humperdink is born in the ~1850's and Ludwig in the ~1870's. Still, something would have had to have happened to cause Ludwig to adopt the Von Drake last name over Duck.
d) My personal proposal that Quackmore died before Hortense and Hortense remarried to a "Mr. Drake" (probably dropped the "Von" during World War I) who is the brother of Ludwig. This theory would assume, like theory c, that Walt wasn't talking about Quackmore in The Hunting Instinct but to a different "father" of Donald's. Ludwig and Mr. Drake could both be cousins of Elvira, and this could even explain how they met. Even though Duckburg, U.S.A. may indicate that the Duck family didn't know Ludwig until then, there's nothing stopping them from having known his brother. Perhaps Elvira introduced her widowed daughter-in-law to her young cousin, _______ Drake, and that is how the two met and eventually married. Ludwig would thus be, by birth, Grandma's cousin but, by marriage, Donald's (step)father's brother.
On a different topic, LP , I think I somehow thought of relatives that aren't included on the tree! Their exclusion may have been intentional, but I'll bring it up. On this thread, there was some great discussion about a mural apparently in Disneyland Shanghai that shows an Italian branch of Donald's family, the Paperinos. The Paperino genealogy leads us to a lady named Rosabella Paperino who apparently lived around 1898. She immigrated to the United States from Italy via Ellis Island and married Clarence Coot, a bicycle mechanic. The tree then draws a branch connecting Rosabella and Clarence to Elvira Coot. The tree probably intends for them to be her parents. One could just conflate these two with Clinton Coot and Gertrude Gadwall. Combining Clinton and Clarence isn't a big issue. He could have a full name of "Clinton Clarence Coot" or something to that effect, and he could have been a bicycle mechanic before starting the Junior Woodchucks. Rosabella is a bit harder to figure out, since her name is totally different from Gertrude Gadwall's. This could still, somehow, just be Gertrude by another name. If that were the case, then it's worth mentioning that Rosabella's ancestors (probably parents or grandparents) are Garibaldi Paperino and Carina Barone. It's also possible that Clinton and Clarence are the same guy, but that Rosabella is another wife of his. She would presumably be Elvira's biological mother, hence why the Paperino family is in any way relevant or important, while Gertrude would just be a stepmother.
Some easier ways to explain Rosabella and Clarence were proposed on that thread, and it basically involves assuming that the branch connecting Clarence and Elvira does not indicate parenthood but rather just means that Clarence is a relative (maybe brother) of Elvira's. This would probably be the easiest to put on your tree. Just add Clarence as a sibling of Casey, Gerta, and Elvira, add Rosabella as his wife, maybe add Garibaldi and Carina as her parents, and call it a day! What do you think? I don't know if maybe you were intentionally excluding Clarence and Rosabella since they're not actually from a story but just from a mural.
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On a different topic, LP , I think I somehow thought of relatives that aren't included on the tree! Their exclusion may have been intentional, but I'll bring it up. On this thread, there was some great discussion about a mural apparently in Disneyland Shanghai that shows an Italian branch of Donald's family, the Paperinos. The Paperino genealogy leads us to a lady named Rosabella Paperino who apparently lived around 1898. She immigrated to the United States from Italy via Ellis Island and married Clarence Coot, a bicycle mechanic. The tree then draws a branch connecting Rosabella and Clarence to Elvira Coot. The tree probably intends for them to be her parents. One could just conflate these two with Clinton Coot and Gertrude Gadwall. Combining Clinton and Clarence isn't a big issue. He could have a full name of "Clinton Clarence Coot" or something to that effect, and he could have been a bicycle mechanic before starting the Junior Woodchucks. Rosabella is a bit harder to figure out, since her name is totally different from Gertrude Gadwall's. This could still, somehow, just be Gertrude by another name. If that were the case, then it's worth mentioning that Rosabella's ancestors (probably parents or grandparents) are Garibaldi Paperino and Carina Barone. It's also possible that Clinton and Clarence are the same guy, but that Rosabella is another wife of his. She would presumably be Elvira's biological mother, hence why the Paperino family is in any way relevant or important, while Gertrude would just be a stepmother.
Some easier ways to explain Rosabella and Clarence were proposed on that thread, and it basically involves assuming that the branch connecting Clarence and Elvira does not indicate parenthood but rather just means that Clarence is a relative (maybe brother) of Elvira's. This would probably be the easiest to put on your tree. Just add Clarence as a sibling of Casey, Gerta, and Elvira, add Rosabella as his wife, maybe add Garibaldi and Carina as her parents, and call it a day! What do you think? I don't know if maybe you were intentionally excluding Clarence and Rosabella since they're not actually from a story but just from a mural.
Ah, yes. I know of that tree. I guess I didn't include it because I don't know how official it is. I don't think we know much more about it other than the fact that it is hanging on a wall in Disneyland Shanghai. I also don't know what those years are supposed to reference either. Why is there "1916" between Elvira and Humperdink, and "1924" between Quackmore and Hortense? And then there's the fact that it adheres to Rosa's tree by including Humperdink, Hortense, Quackmore, and "Elvira Coot" being Grandma's real name, but at the same time contradicts it by seemingly replacing Clinton with Clarence. I don't understand that (and I'm starting to suspect that the creator of the tree didn't either).
Saying that Clarence is not intended to be Elvira's father does not make sense to me. Every other line in that tree is an indication of parenthood, so why would that one be different?
Clarence and the rest will not be included until the questions surrounding the Shanghai tree have been cleared up.
Ah, yes. I know of that tree. I guess I didn't include it because I don't know how official it is. I don't think we know much more about it other than the fact that it is hanging on a wall in Disneyland Shanghai. I also don't know what those years are supposed to reference either. Why is there "1916" between Elvira and Humperdink, and "1924" between Quackmore and Hortense? And then there's the fact that it adheres to Rosa's tree by including Humperdink, Hortense, Quackmore, and "Elvira Coot" being Grandma's real name, but at the same time contradicts it by seemingly replacing Clinton with Clarence. I don't understand that (and I'm starting to suspect that the creator of the tree didn't either).
Saying that Clarence is not intended to be Elvira's father does not make sense to me. Every other line in that tree is an indication of parenthood, so why would that one be different?
Clarence and the rest will not be included until the questions surrounding the Shanghai tree have been cleared up.
That makes sense. Regarding the dates, I think that Scrooge MacDuck 's theory that they indicate, approximately, when the portraits on the trees were "taken" (painted, photographed, etc.) makes the most sense. At any rate, the "1916" and "1924" dates that you point out prove that they can't be birth dates! I guess I probably shouldn't have said it as Clarence being intended to be Elvira's father. Yes, that's certainly what he's intended to be, but since it's notreally, really explicitly stated that Clarence is Elvira's father, the Duck family genealogist may choose to just interpret it differently. Again, Clarence and Rosabella probably were intended to be Elvira's parents, but I think we can fudge that a bit. In fact, I noticed something neat about the tree that might make this interpretation more palatable. There's this massive, thick vine connecting all the members of the Paperino family, leading up to Rosabella. The vine ends at her, however. There is instead a smaller, thinner vine connecting Clarence to Elvira! Rosabella and Elvira are not directly connected by the vines on the tree. The thick vine reappears to connect Humperdink to Quackmore. Does the thick vine represent direct descent while the thinner vine connecting Clarence and Elvira represents something else, such as siblinghood? Again, probably, not the author's intent, but I think it works!
That said, waiting until you have more information about its background is probably a wise move. Better to do that than include them when they're really not official relatives at all. Maybe someday we'll meet the person who painted the mural or the person who commissioned it and learn if we are to view it on the same plane as the comics and cartoons already included in your tree!
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I got a hold of the German version of Duckburg, U.S.A.! It does indeed specify that Ludwig is the son of Elvira's maternal aunt! Below are the relevant panels, complete with a comparison between the American original and the German version's changed dialogue.
Note that "Hofrat" appears to be a title; not a name. Google Translate translated it to "Councilor".
I got a hold of the German version of Duckburg, U.S.A.! It does indeed specify that Ludwig is the son of Elvira's maternal aunt! Below are the relevant panels, complete with a comparison between the American original and the German version's changed dialogue.
Note that "Hofrat" appears to be a title; not a name. Google Translate translated it to "Councilor".
Hofrat is closer to Court Councillor, Hof meaning Court. "My mother's sister was married to a court councillor Von Quack." Given that this story was published in 1962, you could imagine this event taking place in Austria-Hungary before the war.
On a different topic, LP , I think I somehow thought of relatives that aren't included on the tree! Their exclusion may have been intentional, but I'll bring it up. On this thread, there was some great discussion about a mural apparently in Disneyland Shanghai that shows an Italian branch of Donald's family, the Paperinos. The Paperino genealogy leads us to a lady named Rosabella Paperino who apparently lived around 1898. She immigrated to the United States from Italy via Ellis Island and married Clarence Coot, a bicycle mechanic. The tree then draws a branch connecting Rosabella and Clarence to Elvira Coot. The tree probably intends for them to be her parents. One could just conflate these two with Clinton Coot and Gertrude Gadwall. Combining Clinton and Clarence isn't a big issue. He could have a full name of "Clinton Clarence Coot" or something to that effect, and he could have been a bicycle mechanic before starting the Junior Woodchucks. Rosabella is a bit harder to figure out, since her name is totally different from Gertrude Gadwall's. This could still, somehow, just be Gertrude by another name. If that were the case, then it's worth mentioning that Rosabella's ancestors (probably parents or grandparents) are Garibaldi Paperino and Carina Barone. It's also possible that Clinton and Clarence are the same guy, but that Rosabella is another wife of his. She would presumably be Elvira's biological mother, hence why the Paperino family is in any way relevant or important, while Gertrude would just be a stepmother.
Some easier ways to explain Rosabella and Clarence were proposed on that thread, and it basically involves assuming that the branch connecting Clarence and Elvira does not indicate parenthood but rather just means that Clarence is a relative (maybe brother) of Elvira's. This would probably be the easiest to put on your tree. Just add Clarence as a sibling of Casey, Gerta, and Elvira, add Rosabella as his wife, maybe add Garibaldi and Carina as her parents, and call it a day! What do you think? I don't know if maybe you were intentionally excluding Clarence and Rosabella since they're not actually from a story but just from a mural.
Ah, yes. I know of that tree. I guess I didn't include it because I don't know how official it is. I don't think we know much more about it other than the fact that it is hanging on a wall in Disneyland Shanghai. I also don't know what those years are supposed to reference either. Why is there "1916" between Elvira and Humperdink, and "1924" between Quackmore and Hortense? And then there's the fact that it adheres to Rosa's tree by including Humperdink, Hortense, Quackmore, and "Elvira Coot" being Grandma's real name, but at the same time contradicts it by seemingly replacing Clinton with Clarence. I don't understand that (and I'm starting to suspect that the creator of the tree didn't either).
Saying that Clarence is not intended to be Elvira's father does not make sense to me. Every other line in that tree is an indication of parenthood, so why would that one be different?
Clarence and the rest will not be included until the questions surrounding the Shanghai tree have been cleared up.
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest Clinton's name was likely changed in the Shanghai tree to avoid associations with a recent American president. No politics in Disneyland!
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest Clinton's name was likely changed in the Shanghai tree to avoid associations with a recent American president. No politics in Disneyland!
At first glance your theory is believable, but the fact is that Clinton's name isn't the only aspect of Elvira's father that has been changed here. This theory doesn't explain why Clinton's appearance was changed and why he is no longer married to Gertrude Gadwall.
The tree remains a mystery, which gets more weird the more you think about it. I mean, these ancestors are completely made up for the tree. Such a thing would sort of make sense if it was just Chinese ancestors specifically for the Disneyland located in Shanghai, China. But these aren't Chinese ancestors; they're Italian. ...Why?
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest Clinton's name was likely changed in the Shanghai tree to avoid associations with a recent American president. No politics in Disneyland!
At first glance your theory is believable, but the fact is that Clinton's name isn't the only aspect of Elvira's father that has been changed here. This theory doesn't explain why Clinton's appearance was changed and why he is no longer married to Gertrude Gadwall.
The tree remains a mystery, which gets more weird the more you think about it. I mean, these ancestors are completely made up for the tree. Such a thing would sort of make sense if it was just Chinese ancestors specifically for the Disneyland located in Shanghai, China. But these aren't Chinese ancestors; they're Italian. ...Why?
I already had a hunch as to why they are Italian, but after some quick research, I think that I've confirmed my theory. This mural hangs on a wall in the Il Paperino Gelato shop in Shanghai Disneyland. This is why Donald is eating ice cream on the mural, and it's also why Marco Paperino and his wife, Lucretia Meduchi (or Mcduckhi; can't properly discern the surname), are ready to dig into some gelato in their portraits. The shop has an Italian theme and Donald-centric theme, also including murals or decorations that show Donald, Daisy, Huey, Dewey, Louie, Scrooge, Goofy, and Pete in Italy. Why they chose to give the restaurant an Italian theme is something that I'm not sure of. I know that ice cream has been associated with Italy in the United States (this video gives a brief explanation as to why at about the 6:00 mark). I don't know enough about Chinese culture to know if they perhaps associate ice cream with Italy, too. Check out this blog post with pictures for more information: www.traveltothemagic.net/review/review-il-paperino-donald-waffle-at-shanghai-disneyland/
I must say... the more that we talk about this tree, the more endearing it becomes to me. I personally like the designs for Quackmore and Hortense, and the dates given on their portraits that make sense from a Rosan perspective! Clarence replacing Clinton is obviously a big issue, but I think that I'm becoming more and more okay with just seeing Clarence as Elvira's brother. Elvira and Clarence are drawn very similarly on this tree. They're just facing different directions and have different hair, clothes, and accessories. Sure, Rosabella looks a bit like them, too, but, in the context of this tree, Elvira and Rosabella are pretty different, which makes me okay with seeing her as Grandma's sister-in-law rather than her mother. One could assume that this tree was commissioned in-universe by a member of the Paperino family who was opening a gelato shop and wanted to highlight his relationship to the more famous Donald Duck and to Donald's even more famous uncle, Scrooge McDuck (hence why the descriptions of both Hortense and Quackmore namedrop Scrooge).
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It's a great Duck family tree that is created here. I took some time to have a look at it, and noticed something about the position of McTavish Duck (the one from Castle Heirs). On the first page of the story (you can see it here) Donald says "Mc Tavish Duck! Born in Scotland, seventeen hundred and ..." But if McTavish is born in the 1700s, he should be placed I think at least one or two generations younger. Now he is two generations older than for example Hugh Seafoam McDuck, who is born in 1710.
I don't know if his position needs to be in the generation he is now based on something else (I didn't have time yet to read all previous posts here), but otherwise I would suggest to move him (and of course also Lochbert Gander from the same story) two generations up and make McTavish the father of Crockett Duck. That would also work better at the Duck side of the family. Since he would then be 4 generations instead of 6 generations older than Humperdink (who was born I assume around 1855, so 4 generations could be well in the 1700s).
Unfortunately, I don't have the complete Castle Heirs story here, so I don't know if McTavish exact birthyear is mentioned somewhere else in the story.
By the way, I will look if I know of some other relatives that are not yet mentioned on the family tree, but it will take some time to check that, given the amount of relatives that there are already there.
It's a great Duck family tree that is created here. I took some time to have a look at it, and noticed something about the position of McTavish Duck (the one from Castle Heirs). On the first page of the story (you can see it here) Donald says "Mc Tavish Duck! Born in Scotland, seventeen hundred and ..." But if McTavish is born in the 1700s, he should be placed I think at least one or two generations younger. Now he is two generations older than for example Hugh Seafoam McDuck, who is born in 1710.
I don't know if his position needs to be in the generation he is now based on something else (I didn't have time yet to read all previous posts here), but otherwise I would suggest to move him (and of course also Lochbert Gander from the same story) two generations up and make McTavish the father of Crockett Duck. That would also work better at the Duck side of the family. Since he would then be 4 generations instead of 6 generations older than Humperdink (who was born I assume around 1855, so 4 generations could be well in the 1700s).
Unfortunately, I don't have the complete Castle Heirs story here, so I don't know if McTavish exact birthyear is mentioned somewhere else in the story.
Thank you!
McTavish's birth year is not specified in the story. While Hugh "Seafoam" and McTavish are not on the same horizontal level, they are indeed intended to have been born around the same time. The problem is that the amount of time between generations is not consistent between every character. For example, Humperdink Duck is roughly the same age as Scrooge McDuck, yet he is one horizontal level below him since he is Donald's grandfather, while Scrooge is merely Donald's uncle. This in turn is because Scrooge's sister Hortense was pretty old when she gave birth to Donald.
Humperdink was born around 1855, Great-grandpa Danial was born around 1835, Rufus Duck around 1810 (I still haven't updated Rufus' position, so it's currently still Anatrone in this position), Crockett was presumably born in 1786, Crockett's father who fought in the American Revolutionary War was born in the 1750s, his father around 1730, and finally McTavish around 1710. Compare this to Scrooge's father, Fergus McDuck, who was born in 1835. Although both Humperdink and Fergus are Donald's grandfathers, Fergus is 20 years older! Fergus' father Titus "Dingus" was presumably born around 1800, with his father Ebenezer/Don Pepe Pampero McDuck perhaps born around 1770, and Titus' grandfather born around 1740. Finally, Hugh "Seafoam" McDuck is, as you said, supposed to have been born around 1710.
This difference in generation-length can be traced back to the fact that Scrooge is supposed to be Donald's uncle, yet the former is over 40 years older (at least) than the latter!
McTavish's birth year is not specified in the story. While Hugh "Seafoam" and McTavish are not on the same horizontal level, they are indeed intended to have been born around the same time. The problem is that the amount of time between generations is not consistent between every character. For example, Humperdink Duck is roughly the same age as Scrooge McDuck, yet he is one horizontal level below him since he is Donald's grandfather, while Scrooge is merely Donald's uncle. This in turn is because Scrooge's sister Hortense was pretty old when she gave birth to Donald.
Humperdink was born around 1855, Great-grandpa Danial was born around 1835, Rufus Duck around 1810 (I still haven't updated Rufus' position, so it's currently still Anatrone in this position), Crockett was presumably born in 1786, Crockett's father who fought in the American Revolutionary War was born in the 1750s, his father around 1730, and finally McTavish around 1710. Compare this to Scrooge's father, Fergus McDuck, who was born in 1835. Although both Humperdink and Fergus are Donald's grandfathers, Fergus is 20 years older! Fergus' father Titus "Dingus" was presumably born around 1800, with his father Ebenezer/Don Pepe Pampero McDuck perhaps born around 1770, and Titus' grandfather born around 1740. Finally, Hugh "Seafoam" McDuck is, as you said, supposed to have been born around 1710.
This difference in generation-length can be traced back to the fact that Scrooge is supposed to be Donald's uncle, yet the former is over 40 years older (at least) than the latter!
Thank you for the clarification. It just seems rather odd to me that Seafoam's wife (Diamond Lil in the tree) has a grand-uncle (McTavish) that is the same age as Seafoam himself. Though it might be technically possible: if Soafoam's wife would be 20 years younger than Seafoam (thus born in 1730), than she could have a grandparent (McTavish' unnamed sibling) that is born in 1690. So the sibling of McTavish is then 20 years older than McTavish himself. Though possible, it looks rather forced.
To me it would make more sense if Seafoam is married to McTavish' currently unnamed sister. Or (if you don't want Diamond Lil to be McTavish' sister) to let McTavish' sister be the mother of Silas' wife. The result is then a marriage between someone from one horizontal line in the tree with someone in another horizontal line, but that already happens elsewhere in the tree as well (with Ludwig and Matilda). But it's all up to you of course, it's your tree
By the way, which stories do the unnamed father and grandfather of Crockett Duck come from?
On another note, I might have found an aunt of Daisy that I don't see on your tree yet. It's from H 26298. She is called Tante Truus (= aunt Truus) in the Dutch version. Her portrait hangs at Daisy's house. She is further not present in the story.
Thank you for the clarification. It just seems rather odd to me that Seafoam's wife (Diamond Lil in the tree) has a grand-uncle (McTavish) that is the same age as Seafoam himself. Though it might be technically possible: if Soafoam's wife would be 20 years younger than Seafoam (thus born in 1730), than she could have a grandparent (McTavish' unnamed sibling) that is born in 1690. So the sibling of McTavish is then 20 years older than McTavish himself. Though possible, it looks rather forced.
To me it would make more sense if Seafoam is married to McTavish' currently unnamed sister. Or (if you don't want Diamond Lil to be McTavish' sister) to let McTavish' sister be the mother of Silas' wife. The result is then a marriage between someone from one horizontal line in the tree with someone in another horizontal line, but that already happens elsewhere in the tree as well (with Ludwig and Matilda). But it's all up to you of course, it's your tree
By the way, which stories do the unnamed father and grandfather of Crockett Duck come from?
On another note, I might have found an aunt of Daisy that I don't see on your tree yet. It's from H 26298. She is called Tante Truus (= aunt Truus) in the Dutch version. Her portrait hangs at Daisy's house. She is further not present in the story.
Good point! I had completely missed that there's an age discrepancy between McTavish's wife and the McDuck clan. It's an oversight on my part. I'll try to fix it somehow whenever I'll do the next update! Thanks for pointing it out!
Crockett's father and grandfather are from ZD 55-10-09. There was another discussion about these and other Duck ancestors in one of my earlier threads, the one titled "Duck ancestors", if that interests you.
I believe Truus is a new addition to the tree! Thank you!