Post by Scrooge MacDuck on Jan 13, 2017 12:57:00 GMT
There is also a "Duckburg High School" mentioned in "Donald Duck Comic Album" #1; Daisy's great-grandmother (also called Daisy) graduated from it in 1891.
Given that in the USA most people graduate from high school around the age 18 (or was it different back then?) this would put her birth age around 1873. Assuming Daisy was born around 1920, that would mean the age gap between her and her great-grandmother is about 47 years, which would be more appropriate as an age gap between her and her grandmother. Not that it is impossible that a person's great-grandmother is 47 years older than him/her (it is possible, considering the world's youngest grandma was 23) but this would bring attention to topics that are better not addressed in a Disney comic book.
But then, some authors are just bad about figuring dates out: for example, a 1951 story says that Grandma Duck and Humperdink were dating in 1905. Again, this doesn't make sense (unless we assume unpleaseant things) if we assume Donald was also born around 1920.
Last Edit: Jan 13, 2017 13:45:50 GMT by drakeborough
On American college/university names: someone else please correct me if I'm guessing wrong here! I'm only going on the ones I know. But my sense is:
State-funded institutions of higher learning were originally called "University of [state's name]" or "[state's name] State College", e.g. University of Calisota or Calisota State College. There was usually more than one State College in a given state, so they tend to be distinguished as "Eastern/Western/Southern/Northern/Central Calisota State College." But many of those state colleges have been upgraded to universities in recent decades, so they are now "E/W/S/N/C Calisota State Univeristy." If you think of the Duck comics as taking place in the 1950's, those latter institutions would still be "______ Calisota State College." Some states have only one "University of [state's name]". California, being a BIG state, has a bunch of schools in its University of California system, which are called Univ of California at Berkeley, Univ of California at Los Angeles (UCLA), etc. These are actually separate universities, not just multiple campuses of a single university.
So, if we're in the 1950's, the state-funded schools in Duckburg (if any) might be "Central Calisota State College" and "University of Calisota", possibly "University of Calisota at Duckburg", if Calisota's state university system is like California's. "Calisota State University" would be a contemporary name for the former "Calisota State College," but only if there were only *one* state college in Calisota. I don't know of any state that has only one State College>University. It's more likely to be "Central (or E/W/N/S) Calisota State University". So, on the whole, I'd think the English translation of the Italian college name should just be "University of Calisota."
There, aren't you glad we've cleared that up?
Privately funded institutions of higher learning, of course, can be named anything. Coot University, for instance.
State-funded institutions of higher learning were originally called "University of [state's name]" or "[state's name] State College", e.g. University of Calisota or Calisota State College.
Ok, so it was an obvious choice. This explains why the name was used by at least three different sources which clearly didn't inspire each other.
So, if we're in the 1950's, the state-funded schools in Duckburg (if any) might be "Central Calisota State College" and "University of Calisota", possibly "University of Calisota at Duckburg", if Calisota's state university system is like California's. "Calisota State University" would be a contemporary name for the former "Calisota State College," but only if there were only *one* state college in Calisota.
Well, from what I read it seems that the name Calisota State University appeared in English in the comic despite the fact that the comic is in Italian. I guess the modern name depends on the fact that these stories don't use the 1950's-as-the-present theory.
Last Edit: Jan 13, 2017 15:16:31 GMT by drakeborough
I guess the modern name depends on the fact that these stories don't use the 1950's-as-the-present theory.
You can bet they don't. Regardless of other Italian stories, anything with Dickie Duck in it has got to take place in the 60's at the earliest.
I feared my message could be misunderstood.
By saying "I guess the modern name depends on the fact that these stories don't use the 1950's-as-the-present theory.", I wasn't ignoring or doubting the fact that modern Italian stories are set in the year of publication, since of course I already know that.
I guess I should have phrased my message this way: "Since these stories don't use the 1950's-as-the-present theory, this could be the reason why the University has a modern name." This was an answer to Matilda saying that Calisota State College sounds old fashioned (like a 1950's name) while Calisota State University sounds modern.
Last Edit: Jan 13, 2017 16:20:57 GMT by drakeborough
On American college/university names: someone else please correct me if I'm guessing wrong here! I'm only going on the ones I know. But my sense is:
State-funded institutions of higher learning were originally called "University of [state's name]" or "[state's name] State College", e.g. University of Calisota or Calisota State College. There was usually more than one State College in a given state, so they tend to be distinguished as "Eastern/Western/Southern/Northern/Central Calisota State College." But many of those state colleges have been upgraded to universities in recent decades, so they are now "E/W/S/N/C Calisota State Univeristy." If you think of the Duck comics as taking place in the 1950's, those latter institutions would still be "______ Calisota State College." Some states have only one "University of [state's name]". California, being a BIG state, has a bunch of schools in its University of California system, which are called Univ of California at Berkeley, Univ of California at Los Angeles (UCLA), etc. These are actually separate universities, not just multiple campuses of a single university.
So, if we're in the 1950's, the state-funded schools in Duckburg (if any) might be "Central Calisota State College" and "University of Calisota", possibly "University of Calisota at Duckburg", if Calisota's state university system is like California's. "Calisota State University" would be a contemporary name for the former "Calisota State College," but only if there were only *one* state college in Calisota. I don't know of any state that has only one State College>University. It's more likely to be "Central (or E/W/N/S) Calisota State University". So, on the whole, I'd think the English translation of the Italian college name should just be "University of Calisota."
There, aren't you glad we've cleared that up?
Privately funded institutions of higher learning, of course, can be named anything. Coot University, for instance.
I remember having seen a "Duckburg University", and if Calisota is athe state in which duckburg lies, there MUST be a University of Calisota, virtually by definition. As to high schools, Barks, himself, had shown in a Gyro Gearloose story, that Gyro had attended South Duckburg high School (although he had been born on The Northside (So he was forced to play for North Duckburg High School's team in a past f\graduate exhibition game against Donald's team, South duckburg High School (which had also been attended by Daisy, and Gladstone), and would likely have been attended by Huey, Dewey, and Louie, IF they and Donald had continued to live on Duckburg's South Side (where his Webfoot Walk address was situated).
What about that lone, weird implication that Duckburg might be an independant city-state? (I'm referring to the presence of a "Duckburg embassy" in war-torn Unsteadystan, as depicted in Barks' “Treasure of Marco Polo”.) Is this somehow possible that Duckburg could be both a (non-sovereign?) city-state and part of Calisota to some extent?
Last Edit: Jan 4, 2022 19:49:38 GMT by juicymcduck
What about that lone, weird implication that Duckburg might be an independant city-state? (I'm referring to the presence of a "Duckburg embassy" in war-torn Unsteadystan, as depicted in Barks' “Treasure of Marco Polo”.) Is this somehow possible that Duckburg could be both a (non-sovereign?) city-state and part of Calisota to some extent?
Um, no. Not in the USA. The only jurisdictions independent of the state(s) within which they lie are the Native American tribal nations, their land being reservations. Washington, D.C., is a city that was set up independent of states, but it is not part of any of the states.
As to indications that Duckburg is an independent city-state, there are also the times where Duckburg has its own representation at the Olympics, right? Including Rosa's "From Duckburg to Lillehammer." At any rate, all indications that Duckburg is independent are among those Irreconcilable Facts--in this case, irreconcilable with the many pieces of evidence that Duckburg is a part of the USA.
