It's a fascinating mix of canons, but a consequence of such is that it's also hard to fully identify everyone. Now, I believe I've managed to succeed, except for...
I think it's supposed to be Donald's uncle, Eider Duck (or, at least Rosa's version). Also, similar to the illustration you showed, in Disneyland Shanghai you can apparently find this one:
Last Edit: Mar 10, 2017 17:53:21 GMT by Scroogerello
The first mural is great, but the second one is really confusing: sometimes you have a set of parents above their son(s), other times it's the other way round. The dates (such as 1916 for Elvira/Humperdink and 1924 for Hortense/Quackmore) seem random and it's not even explained what they stand for. How come Elvira's father is a "Clarence Coot"? Also, who are Hortense's parents in this version?
Matilda's got the small eyes not connected to the beak. No, pretty sure that's Della. As for the cake duck, I thought Fenton, but Eider seems to make more sense here
Matilda's got the small eyes not connected to the beak. No, pretty sure that's Della. As for the cake duck, I thought Fenton, but Eider seems to make more sense here
I don't know. He's a better fit designwise, but the whole point of Eider is that he's strong and confident and virile. He'd never drop a cake like that. The Cake-Dropper's expression looks very much like one Fenton could take, not so much like one Eider could take.
Post by Baar Baar Jinx on Mar 11, 2017 20:22:48 GMT
I do not, of course, have to expand on this for the benefit of members of this group, but that Tokyo Disneyland mural is a mess continuity-wise, and has elements that are mutually anachronistic. Young Goldie with old Scrooge? An adult Donald fighting with his father who seems to be the same age? A Della who's alive and well with nephews who seem to be older than when they were first sent to live with Donald? Plus a mixing of classic characters with ones from the Darkwing Duck and DuckTales universes? (That is decidedly a Darkwing Launchpad, not a DuckTales one.) Still, it's remarkable that it exists at all, and that it features some obscure Rosa and Scarpa-created characters. And it's well done. Where exactly does it hang in the park, and does anyone know the story behind it? A Google search doesn't reveal anything.
I do not, of course, have to expand on this for the benefit of members of this group, but that Tokyo Disneyland mural is a mess continuity-wise, and has elements that are mutually anachronistic. Young Goldie with old Scrooge? An adult Donald fighting with his father who seems to be the same age? A Della who's alive and well with nephews who seem to be older than when they were first sent to live with Donald? Plus a mixing of classic characters with ones from the Darkwing Duck and DuckTales universes? (That is decidedly a Darkwing Launchpad, not a DuckTales one.) Still, it's remarkable that it exists at all, and that it features some obscure Rosa and Scarpa-created characters. And it's well done. Where exactly does it hang in the park, and does anyone know the story behind it? A Google search doesn't reveal anything.
About the continuity: clearly, it takes place in a Grandi Parodie-style setting, where various comic characters have 'identical lookalikes' with similar, but not identical, relationships with each other. It so happens that in this 'alternate universe', Scrooge and Goldie's birthdates were different, Quackmore and Donald aren't related in the same way, etc., just the same way Mickey as Bob Cratchit can be married and a father in Mickey's Christmas Carol.
I do not, of course, have to expand on this for the benefit of members of this group, but that Tokyo Disneyland mural is a mess continuity-wise, and has elements that are mutually anachronistic. Young Goldie with old Scrooge? An adult Donald fighting with his father who seems to be the same age? A Della who's alive and well with nephews who seem to be older than when they were first sent to live with Donald? Plus a mixing of classic characters with ones from the Darkwing Duck and DuckTales universes? (That is decidedly a Darkwing Launchpad, not a DuckTales one.) Still, it's remarkable that it exists at all, and that it features some obscure Rosa and Scarpa-created characters. And it's well done. Where exactly does it hang in the park, and does anyone know the story behind it? A Google search doesn't reveal anything.
About the continuity: clearly, it takes place in a Grandi Parodie-style setting, where various comic characters have 'identical lookalikes' with similar, but not identical, relationships with each other. It so happens that in this 'alternate universe', Scrooge and Goldie's birthdates were different, Quackmore and Donald aren't related in the same way, etc., just the same way Mickey as Bob Cratchit can be married and a father in Mickey's Christmas Carol.
Charles Dickens' "Christmas Carol" is one of my all-time favourite novels. I may be senile, but I shouldn't forget one of my favourite stories among thousands. I seem to remember Bob Cratchett being married and having 6 children, including Tiny Tim, in Dickens' book. So, why wouldn't Mickey, as "Bob Cratchett", be old enough to be married???
About the continuity: clearly, it takes place in a Grandi Parodie-style setting, where various comic characters have 'identical lookalikes' with similar, but not identical, relationships with each other. It so happens that in this 'alternate universe', Scrooge and Goldie's birthdates were different, Quackmore and Donald aren't related in the same way, etc., just the same way Mickey as Bob Cratchit can be married and a father in Mickey's Christmas Carol.
Charles Dickens' "Christmas Carol" is one of my all-time favourite novels. I may be senile, but I shouldn't forget one of my favourite stories among thousands. I seem to remember Bob Cratchett being married and having 6 children, including Tiny Tim, in Dickens' book. So, why wouldn't Mickey, as "Bob Cratchett", be old enough to be married???
In the Disney film, he has three, if I recall correctly: two boys and a girl. The two boys are 'played' by Morty & Ferdie, with Ferdie as Tiny Tim. Thus, if Mickey, who is Morty and Ferdie's uncle in the 'canon' universe, can be their father instead in a Grandi Parodie-style cartoon, there's no objection to Donald and Quackmore not being father and son in another effort of this type.
I see NOW that you meant that Mickey could be married and have children in the special one-time parody, rather than having his normal bachelor status as in the mainstream comics stories, marketing media, and animated stories, rather than his age being the issue in your post which I highlighted.
I do not, of course, have to expand on this for the benefit of members of this group, but that Tokyo Disneyland mural is a mess continuity-wise, and has elements that are mutually anachronistic.
About the continuity: clearly, it takes place in a Grandi Parodie-style setting, where various comic characters have 'identical lookalikes' with similar, but not identical, relationships with each other.
Even without the mention of Grandi Parodie, I think the explanation is very simple: a mural is like a cover or an illustration, and for obvious reasons covers and illustrations are often anachronistic and purposely out-of-continuity, not to mention they usually do not depict actual scenes. So, there's nothing wrong with showing kid Scrooge and old Scrooge next to each other....
... and there's nothing wrong with showing old Scrooge together with young Hortense and young Matilda...
... and there's nothing wring with showing young Scrooge next to Donald...
... and there's nothing wrong with showing "false scenes" (for example, Goldie and Soapy weren't there when Scrooge found the Goose Egg Nugget; Scrooge didn't step on floating pieces of iceberg, he escaped on a lifeboat)...
... and so on and on and on...
Last Edit: Mar 12, 2017 11:46:09 GMT by drakeborough
Ummm, just want to say it may not be an "old Scrooge". Scrooge's appearance doesn't change much over years. According to "Always Another Rainbow" Scrooge already had his glasses on in his Yukon time.
Even in Rosa's vision, he put on his glasses at 35, when he was still young. The whisker may look shorter though. The original printing: Botticelli's The Story of Nastagio degli Onesti