Honestly I find the show's attitude towards Quack Pack rather dubious looking back. To be frank I found the latter show to be much more sincere about itself.
Nearly everything from seasons 1-5 is gold. Those reviews are hilarious. His new stuff has too many skits, he is too pretentious, and he changed his delivery/timing so the jokes aren't as funny.
Watching his new videos, I almost get the feeling he's making room for a laugh machine after every time he delivers a joke. It's weird.
Plus, I get the feeling he's more careful these days to not huwt anyone's feewings by hating on something they like. In the old days, he'd run rampant with rage over a terrible movie, and it was often really funny. He can of course still be critical and make fun of stuff, but I get the feeling he is more often veering towards the 'this is bad, but it's hilariously bad' and 'its not for me, but...' camp. In a word, his reviews overall feel nicer than they did years back, and not for the better.
Nearly everything from seasons 1-5 is gold. Those reviews are hilarious. His new stuff has too many skits, he is too pretentious, and he changed his delivery/timing so the jokes aren't as funny.
Watching his new videos, I almost get the feeling he's making room for a laugh machine after every time he delivers a joke. It's weird.
Plus, I get the feeling he's more careful these days to not huwt anyone's feewings by hating on something they like. In the old days, he'd run rampant with rage over a terrible movie, and it was often really funny. He can of course still be critical and make fun of stuff, but I get the feeling he is more often veering towards the 'this is bad, but it's hilariously bad' and 'its not for me, but...' camp. In a word, his reviews overall feel nicer than they did years back, and not for the better.
I also feel as if he is trying too hard to be an actual critic. I don't need a critical breakdown on why some hack film is bad. Just rant.
New Drake, on the other hand, is not a self-dramatizing superhero who insists on believing his own hype, but a roleplaying fanboy merely imitating a TV character that he hero-worships. New Drake's occasional displays of Original Drake’s traits, like his dislike of Gizmoduck, feel oddly out of place, since there’s no real reason for this humbler, more aspirational version of Drake to be jealous of another superhero. As with New Fenton, New Drake may be a “nicer” and less egotistical character, but he’s also a much less interesting one. Also, as with New Fenton, New Drake feels like a superhero fan’s wish-fulfillment fantasy (in this case, “Wouldn’t it be great if I could cosplay as a superhero and use all my nerd knowhow to save the day”) than an actual parody of superhero characters, which the original was.
I think my main problem with it is that they can't decide whether or not to go in a new direction with Darkwing or write him the same as in the original. I was initially really intrigued with the idea of Darkwing Duck being a superhero show inside the universe because it meant they could tell very different types of stories with the character then in the original. However, they never really do anything with it in any meaningful way, he's still written the exact same even though it doesn't make sense for him to be. A great example of a missed opportunity for me was with his villains. Having Drake be a fanatic trying to live out his own Darkwing fanfic could make for a lot of great subversions with the villains. Drake could perhaps deal with villains that are a far cry form the cartoony ones of the show and realize that reality isn't like in comics. He would go in expecting the villains to cower in fear of him only to be laughed at for his ridiculous costume. But instead they don't really do anything with that and just decide to open a portal to bring in all the old villains, making me wonder "what was the point of making Darkwing a show within a show in the first place," and I've come to the unfortunate conclusion that it was likely done simply for the sake of making references to the original.
As for his hatred of Gizmoduck it was really an easy fix. All you needed to do was have a scene or two where someone doesn't recognize Darkwing and asks "oh, so you're like Gizmoduck?" Drake gets annoyed that people keep bringing up some other hero, then, bam, the audience understands why he dislikes Gizmoduck. But they don't even do the bare minimum with it, instead he just hates Gizmoduck solely because Darkwing Duck is supposed to hate gizmoduck and nothing else. Not only that, but as we see at the ending of the "Duck Knight," even before he became Darkwing he disliked Gizmoduck.
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Post by donaldistducktoons on Jun 16, 2022 14:52:39 GMT
As for Ducktales 2017, I think everything has been said here. In particular, djnyr explained everything here in detail and I agree with most of the items listed here. Not in everything, but in most yes.
My opinion is certainly that the Ducktales reboot had a lot of potential to be a successful reboot, as most on social media praise it, but unfortunately the show itself did not know how to explain what it wanted to be. Is it an adventure series or a sitcom or some drama series? I know that because of some criticism of Scrooge's colonialism they could not focus on adventure, although it should be understood that what Scrooge did was common for every billionaire who makes investments in the colonies (they still do today), although I think it is more because because the writers themselves (primarily Angones) did not want to do an adventure series, but a series with superheroes. Yes, Angones originally wanted to do a Darkwing Duck reboot, and had some desire to work on the Rescue Rangers Movie, however Disney turned down most of his plans. Ducktales 2017 looked more like some modern nonsense sitcom with a lot of ironic jokes that are not funny, than a reboot of the original Ducktales. I don't like to say this, but the influence of woke liberalism has been more influential lately, as well as approaching and flattering certain groups that are influential on social networks, that they forgot that they should have impressed children the most, who sees it the most. However, children are not eager or interested in this kind of "adventurous" sitcoms. It’s more for teenagers and the population that grew up on Disney Afternoon 30 years ago than it is on ordinary children.
The first episode of the Ducktales reboot was really great, and it turned out to be really adventurous, even with some mistakes. However, after a few episodes, Ducktales started to have some problems that he has not solved until today. The mystery surrounding Della Duck (mother of Huey, Dewey and Louie) was the main point of that series that they could have done to the end, even if there were attempts to Scrooge, Donald with children (nephews and Webby) go into space in search of Della and there might be some competition between Glomgold and Scrooge in that. Unfortunately, the mystery surrounding Della Duck had already been unraveled in the middle of the second season and when she returned home, I felt that this would put an end to Ducktales and he would not be embarrassed anymore. Certainly the episode between Jim Starling and Drake Mallard was one of the best episodes, with the emergence of Negaduck, but again, Darkwing Duck wasn’t exactly celebrated in that series. The finals of the first season were very good. Yes, in my opinion, the first season and the first half of the second season were good, while after the return of Della Duck to Earth, a sharp decline began and the worst was certainly in the third season. I talked to some Ducktales reboot fans who were in a close relationship with Angones and they themselves said that Angones wanted some episodes of Ducktales to be more focused on adult characters without child characters, however Disney denied them those opportunities. And I don't trust Angones anymore after everything he did.
But the worst thing is that some ideas were annulled before Angones, Youngberg and their crew took over the Ducktales, and they had great ideas to make an animated adaptation of the Carl Barks and Don Rosa comics. Especially an idea by Joe Pitt, who worked at Disney for a while, especially on cartoon series like Gravity Falls, Wander Over Yonder and Mickey Mouse Cartoons (that version by Paul Rudish). He, after the success of the video game Ducktales remastered, accepted the job around the Ducktales reboot and came up with the idea that the Ducktales reboot would be more like the Carl Barks and Don Rosa comics than the original Ducktales. Yes, there would be some elements from OG Ducktales, or characters like Webby and Launchpad. And this is a poster that Joe Pitt drew a few years ago, probably in 2015 or 2016.
I only found this on Tumblr, I don't know how I can put the whole picture here, so I had to follow the link, since his original Tumblr account has been deactivated. Certainly, it is a pity that his idea was not accepted. The Disney management wanted more focus on children, on children's characters such as Donald's nephews and Webby, not knowing that children love Donald more than Donald's nephews, at least in terms of viewership. Joe Pitt rejected the idea that nephews be the main characters and left Disney. This was followed by the end of Gravity Falls and the cancellation of Wander Over Yonder, so Disney wanted to keep part of that audience for themselves, so they hired such a team for the Ducktales. In addition to Angones and Youngberg, Dana Terrace also stood out, as she is more credited with creating a separate version of Webby Vanderquack and worked there while it was the first season and then left. Which is why the episodes of the first season of Ducktales were good, despite the flaws. Because they had good writing, there would be a mess later. Everything has been said about the relationship between Tony Anselmo and Angones, so I won't talk about it.
I don't like the Ducktales reboot style at all, but the series itself wasn't so bad that it was for itself. There were good things there, but there were more negative ones. I am grateful that Daisy Duck did well as well as the relationship between Donald and Gladstone and that they introduced Fethry Duck, but I would not comment on the rest because everything has been said. The Ducktales reboot eventually turned out more like a rip-off of various series and movies into one. They brought in everything from Donald Duck comics, through Disney Afternoon to a combination of Transformers, Marvel, DC, Gravity Falls, Venture Bros., Rick and Morty and other modern cartoons, especially when it comes to inserting unnecessary references and cameo characters. All that as a marketing trick and attracting a nostalgic audience, however, all that was unsuccessful in the end. They certainly didn’t deserve a fourth season. However, I respect the fans who are honest and who love Ducktales, and I don't blame them, certainly these are just my opinions and my impressions. I would comment further, but as I said earlier, everything is said here.
So as I said for the Rescue Rangers Movie, the Ducktales reboot was more like evoking nostalgia than they added, except for some characters (Mark Beaks, Lena, Violet and Boyd were good characters in my opinion, although I have objections to them), and it was seen that in general the Ducktales reboot crew did not understand the Duckverse at all nor that the Ducktales had anything to do with originality. The worst thing that happened was writing the script in the Ducktales reboot. So much for that and I hope that in the future such a crew will no longer do any work related to Donald Duck and Duckverse in general.
Honestly I find the show's attitude towards Quack Pack rather dubious looking back. To be frank I found the latter show to be much more sincere about itself.
So despite the fact that Ducktales 2017 took a lot of things from Quack Pack, especially the negative ones, that very episode of Quack Pack in Ducktales didn't even look like that eponymous series, except for the title and some poses. I know a lot of people here don't like Quack Pack, for me it was a good underrated series that had really bugs, but it had the potential to be a good series, only it had very good writing, which unfortunately it didn't have. Yet, in addition to the flaws that the Quack Pack had, one thing is for sure. Quack Pack did the best in terms of the dynamic relationship between Donald and his nephews as a relationship in the Duck family and it really looked like a father-son relationship. They also saved each other in trouble when they were and when in the end they all went badly or in the end they all went well. Something that was missing in both versions of Ducktales.
I know why Donald couldn’t have been such a well-represented character in OG Ducktales (Roy Disney and too much protection of the Famous Six to be present at Disney Afternoon all the way to Goof Troop), though I don’t understand why they couldn’t have done so in Ducktales reboot, although considering how Anselmo fared while filming that series and it doesn’t surprise me. It is certainly strange that we were told that Donald Duck is the best parent for Donald's nephews, as it was said on social networks, and we saw Donald fighting for his family, but we did not see anything about the relationship between Donald and his nephews. Also, Donald eventually leaves his nephews to his sister and takes May and June and leaves with Daisy at the end. Although, considering how his family treated him, it is not surprising that in the end he decided to go as far away from them as possible. It’s certainly sad to see that in the end Donald’s nephews didn’t even care for him except Huey. Sure, the comics did a lot better, but it’s unfortunate that we won’t see dynamic relationships between Donald and his nephews in the animated depictions except in Quack Pack. I hope that the next Donald Duck series, which has that name, will do such a job better. Again, this is my opinion and my impression.
As for Ducktales 2017, I think everything has been said here. In particular, djnyr explained everything here in detail and I agree with most of the items listed here. Not in everything, but in most yes.
I talked to some Ducktales reboot fans who were in a close relationship with Angones and they themselves said that Angones wanted some episodes of Ducktales to be more focused on adult characters without child characters, however Disney denied them those opportunities. And I don't trust Angones anymore after everything he did.
They certainly didn’t deserve a fourth season. However, I respect the fans who are honest and who love Ducktales, and I don't blame them, certainly these are just my opinions and my impressions. I would comment further, but as I said earlier, everything is said here.
Okay, little harsh in calling Angones a bad and untrustworthy person. Sure he ran a show that made mistakes in your perspective, but that doesn't mean he's a bad person. I mean Daron Nefcy made some pretty bad decisions when writing later seasons of Star vs the Forces of Evil, yet no one's about to go calling her a bad and untrustworthy person over it.
Plus Disney meddling in Ducktales 2017 honestly isn't that hard to believe (considering other creators like Alex Hirsch, Matt Braly, Craig McCracken, and Dana Terrace have commented on how much meddling they got from Disney for their shows).
As for why Disney TVA imposes the kids must be the main protagonists in every episode thing, it's likely cause among the successful non-preschool series made by them, Phineas & Ferb, Gravity Falls, Star vs the Forces of Evil, Big City Greens, and Amphibia are up there alongside Ducktales 2017 as their most popular and successful non-preschool shows and given the one thing they share is being kid protagonist shows, Disney likely thinks it'd get more popularity that way. I mean there aren't many legit successful and popular 2010s onward shows that do feature purely adults as the main protagonists with no children in main cast (I even hear one factor in Wander Over Yonder being canned came from the lack of kid protagonist according to someone who heard Craig McCracken do a podcast).
FYI, the relationship between Anselmo and the Ducktales 2017 crew DID improve as time went on with the writers making Donald dialogue more to his liking and making him easier to understand plus no longer speeding him up anymore (even then, it's more a common practice for timing purposes in many modern cartoons than actual disrespect on Anselmo). Plus this issue technically shouldn't be blamed on Angones. Sure he and Youngberg ran the show, but other people were there too. The sound editors were the ones speeding him up in post, not Angones and Sam Riegel is the voice director so dunno why no one's bringing him up when talking about the voice acting and blaming it on Angones.
Saying Angones and Youngberg didn't deserve a season 4 and hoping they never touch the classic Disney characters or Disney Afternoon again does feel a bit too cold of a statement as if claiming they don't deserve to be part of something they loved as kids.
Okay, little harsh in calling Angones a bad and untrustworthy person. Sure he ran a show that made mistakes in your perspective, but that doesn't mean he's a bad person. I mean Daron Nefcy made some pretty bad decisions when writing later seasons of Star vs the Forces of Evil, yet no one's about to go calling her a bad and untrustworthy person over it.
Personally, the more the series continued, the less trust I had in him. Maybe it was a misunderstanding from my part, but from the interviews that I read of him in italian he gave a really different impression to what would have appeared and happened in the show.
I find particularly bad this interview. I don't know for sure the times of how those episodes are produced, so I can't 100% say that they were currently lying, but as the interviewer points out the second season had already been greenlighted, so they must already had at least a plan/rough sketch in mind. Yet Angones said "Nella seconda stagione ci immergeremo a fondo nella produzione Disney italiana, compariranno diversi personaggi di origine europea, e mi riferisco ad alcune creazioni di Romano Scarpa." ("In the second season we will dive deep in the Disney Italia's production, will appear many characters of european origin, and I'm talking about some Romano Scarpa's creations."). But looking at the episodes I can't find no Scarpa's characters, nor italians-made. The less known ones for an Usian audience may be Fethry Duck or John D. Rockerduck (this one in nothing similar to the european characterization, which is younger than $crooge and more prone to errors, often ending in phisical fights with him. DT17's Glomgold is more similar to euRK than DT17's RK!), and I hope they weren't referring to them when talking about Scarpa's characters. Just a google search can show who first created them.
I also remember another interview where they were talking about what their idea for the whole serie was. They said that the first was supposed to focus on the mcDuck side, and the second on the Coot/Duck, instead. But I can't find the interview anymore, so take those memories with a grain of salt (this interview was probably at the start of Ducktales Reboot, maybe even before season 1 aired).
Okay, little harsh in calling Angones a bad and untrustworthy person. Sure he ran a show that made mistakes in your perspective, but that doesn't mean he's a bad person. I mean Daron Nefcy made some pretty bad decisions when writing later seasons of Star vs the Forces of Evil, yet no one's about to go calling her a bad and untrustworthy person over it.
Personally, the more the series continued, the less trust I had in him. Maybe it was a misunderstanding from my part, but from the interviews that I read of him in italian he gave a really different impression to what would have appeared and happened in the show.
I find particularly bad this interview. I don't know for sure the times of how those episodes are produced, so I can't 100% say that they were currently lying, but as the interviewer points out the second season had already been greenlighted, so they must already had at least a plan/rough sketch in mind. Yet Angones said "Nella seconda stagione ci immergeremo a fondo nella produzione Disney italiana, compariranno diversi personaggi di origine europea, e mi riferisco ad alcune creazioni di Romano Scarpa." ("In the second season we will dive deep in the Disney Italia's production, will appear many characters of european origin, and I'm talking about some Romano Scarpa's creations."). But looking at the episodes I can't find no Scarpa's characters, nor italians-made. The less known ones for an Usian audience may be Fethry Duck or John D. Rockerduck (this one in nothing similar to the european characterization, which is younger than $crooge and more prone to errors, often ending in phisical fights with him. DT17's Glomgold is more similar to euRK than DT17's RK!), and I hope they weren't referring to them when talking about Scarpa's characters. Just a google search can show who first created them.
I also remember another interview where they were talking about what their idea for the whole serie was. They said that the first was supposed to focus on the mcDuck side, and the second on the Coot/Duck, instead. But I can't find the interview anymore, so take those memories with a grain of salt (this interview was probably at the start of Ducktales Reboot, maybe even before season 1 aired).
I mean for the Italian interview, maybe some translation error was at play there or maybe they had to change their plans for season 2 (just because it was greenlit doesn't mean the story was finalized so maybe they ended up changing the plans along the way at some point given the final season 2 episodes weren't finished until mid-2019 (Treasure of the Lost Lamp to Moonvasion have a 2019 copyright date)).
I don't recall Angones and Youngberg saying season 2 would focus on Coot/Duck and 1 purely on McDuck so maybe you may have been misremembering. I mean at most there's Scrooge obviously being introduced and his parents in season 1 while season 2 introduces Duck member Fethry and had that episode with Cornelius Coot.
I mean for the Italian interview, maybe some translation error was at play there or maybe they had to change their plans for season 2 (just because it was greenlit doesn't mean the story was finalized so maybe they ended up changing the plans along the way at some point given the final season 2 episodes weren't finished until mid-2019 (Treasure of the Lost Lamp to Moonvasion have a 2019 copyright date)).
I don't recall Angones and Youngberg saying season 2 would focus on Coot/Duck and 1 purely on McDuck so maybe you may have been misremembering. I mean at most there's Scrooge obviously being introduced and his parents in season 1 while season 2 introduces Duck member Fethry and had that episode with Cornelius Coot.
A translation error doesn't seem likely considering that Angones and Youngberg are stating so specifically that Season 2 will introduce Scarpa-created characters, in a different interpretation than they may have been known before (which is the case with a lot of DuckTales 2017). How do you completely mistranslate such a long, in-depth answer?
Sappiamo che siete degli appassionati di Fumetto Disney a tutto tondo e che conoscete molto bene anche la produzione nostrana. Quali sono gli autori italiani, le storie e le serie che preferite? Ci possiamo aspettare di vedere qualche influenza nei prossimi episodi di “DuckTales”?
Francisco Angones – Ci troviamo spesso a parlare con editori americani e interWAKonali, che ci chiedono se riporteremo in scena questo o quel personaggio, e la nostra risposta è sempre: Sì, ma non possiamo dirtelo! [ride]
Nella seconda stagione ci immergeremo a fondo nella produzione Disney italiana, compariranno diversi personaggi di origine europea, e mi riferisco ad alcune creazioni di Romano Scarpa. La cosa interessante è che alcuni di questi soggetti non sono mai stati animati prima, non facevano parte delle precedenti DuckTales. Essendo questa una serie animata di fama interWAKonale, vogliamo farli conoscere al grande pubblico in modo entusiasmante, prendendo alcuni di loro e rappresentandoli in forme che non sono necessariamente quelle con cui sono stati visti finora, ma quasi una loro estensione.
Non ho potuto introdurre immediatamente Paperetta Yé-Yé o Brigitta… ma ci stiamo lavorando. Non ci stiamo riposando, vedrete tanti nuovi paperi in versione animata.
Matt Youngberg – Amiamo tutto il materiale di partenza. Lavorando a “DuckTales” stiamo cercando di realizzare una versione moderna della serie originale, ma allo stesso tempo anche introdurre tutti gli elementi che la gente di tutto il mondo ama dell’universo dei Paperi. Perciò vedrete personaggi che non sono popolari negli Stati Uniti e che sono apparsi nei fumetti europei, e voi li conoscete molto bene. Stiamo pescando da diverse fonti, perché quei fumetti sono risorse così ricche che sarebbe un peccato non sfruttare certi personaggi. Introdurremo nuove figure che speriamo facciano leva sul pubblico interWAKonale, ma abbiamo anche creato personaggi originali, e spero di vederli comparire in futuro nei fumetti di più WAKonalità.
Angones – A livello personale, adoro Paperinik. Mi piacerebbe trovare un modo per introdurlo, prima o poi.
Translated through Google Translate:
We know that you are all-round fans of Disney Comics and that you also know our local production very well. What are your favorite Italian authors, stories and series? Can we expect to see any influence in the next few episodes of “DuckTales”?
Francisco Angones - We often find ourselves talking to American and international publishers, who ask us if we will bring this or that character back to the scene, and our answer is always: Yes, but we cannot tell you! [ laughs ]
In the second season we will dive deeply into the Italian Disney production, several characters of European origin will appear, and I am referring to some creations by Romano Scarpa. The interesting thing is that some of these subjects have never been animated before, they weren't part of the previous DuckTales. As this is an internationally renowned animated series, we want to introduce them to the general public in an exciting way, by taking some of them and representing them in forms that are not necessarily those with which they have been seen so far, but almost an extension of them.
I couldn't immediately introduce Paperetta Yé-Yé [Dickie Duck] or Brigitta… but we're working on it. We are not resting, you will see many new ducks in animated version.
Matt Youngberg - We love all the source material. Working on “DuckTales” we are trying to make a modern version of the original series, but at the same time also introduce all the elements that people all over the world love about the Duck universe. So you will see characters who are not popular in the United States and who have appeared in European comics, and you know them very well. We are fishing from different sources, because those comics are such rich resources that it would be a shame not to exploit certain characters. We will be introducing new figures that we hope will appeal to the international audience, but we have also created original characters, and I hope to see them appear in the comics of more nationalities in the future.
Angones - On a personal level, I love Paperinik [Duck Avenger]. I'd like to find a way to introduce him sooner or later.
Francisco Angones – Ci troviamo spesso a parlare con editori americani e interWAKonali, che ci chiedono se riporteremo in scena questo o quel personaggio, e la nostra risposta è sempre: Sì, ma non possiamo dirtelo! [ride]
This forum's censoring of the letter combination "n a z i" in ANY context is getting ridiculous.
As for Ducktales 2017, I think everything has been said here. In particular, djnyr explained everything here in detail and I agree with most of the items listed here. Not in everything, but in most yes.
I talked to some Ducktales reboot fans who were in a close relationship with Angones and they themselves said that Angones wanted some episodes of Ducktales to be more focused on adult characters without child characters, however Disney denied them those opportunities. And I don't trust Angones anymore after everything he did.
They certainly didn’t deserve a fourth season. However, I respect the fans who are honest and who love Ducktales, and I don't blame them, certainly these are just my opinions and my impressions. I would comment further, but as I said earlier, everything is said here.
Okay, little harsh in calling Angones a bad and untrustworthy person. Sure he ran a show that made mistakes in your perspective, but that doesn't mean he's a bad person. I mean Daron Nefcy made some pretty bad decisions when writing later seasons of Star vs the Forces of Evil, yet no one's about to go calling her a bad and untrustworthy person over it.
Plus Disney meddling in Ducktales 2017 honestly isn't that hard to believe (considering other creators like Alex Hirsch, Matt Braly, Craig McCracken, and Dana Terrace have commented on how much meddling they got from Disney for their shows).
As for why Disney TVA imposes the kids must be the main protagonists in every episode thing, it's likely cause among the successful non-preschool series made by them, Phineas & Ferb, Gravity Falls, Star vs the Forces of Evil, Big City Greens, and Amphibia are up there alongside Ducktales 2017 as their most popular and successful non-preschool shows and given the one thing they share is being kid protagonist shows, Disney likely thinks it'd get more popularity that way. I mean there aren't many legit successful and popular 2010s onward shows that do feature purely adults as the main protagonists with no children in main cast (I even hear one factor in Wander Over Yonder being canned came from the lack of kid protagonist according to someone who heard Craig McCracken do a podcast).
FYI, the relationship between Anselmo and the Ducktales 2017 crew DID improve as time went on with the writers making Donald dialogue more to his liking and making him easier to understand plus no longer speeding him up anymore (even then, it's more a common practice for timing purposes in many modern cartoons than actual disrespect on Anselmo). Plus this issue technically shouldn't be blamed on Angones. Sure he and Youngberg ran the show, but other people were there too. The sound editors were the ones speeding him up in post, not Angones and Sam Riegel is the voice director so dunno why no one's bringing him up when talking about the voice acting and blaming it on Angones.
Saying Angones and Youngberg didn't deserve a season 4 and hoping they never touch the classic Disney characters or Disney Afternoon again does feel a bit too cold of a statement as if claiming they don't deserve to be part of something they loved as kids.
I respect your opinions though.
When I said that Angones was a bad person, I didn't say that for no reason, but for a reason. Although Angones answered many questions on Tumblr and Twitter, he still blocked dissidents, as well as Ducktales fans who mildly commented on some mistakes in his series. He did not respect that, but blocked it all, without further response. I know people who have experienced that. Not to mention his tweet about Gosalyn. Honestly, even though he deleted that tweet, that tweet certainly came across social media and there was a heated debate about it. The question is why he had to write. I understand he was excited about Darkwing Duck, but what he did led to the cancellation of Darkwing Duck reboot as a sequel to Ducktales. Yes, the episode "Let's Get Dangerous" itself did not lead to full viewership, no matter what anyone else thought. I don't know, if you have an explanation about that, feel free to say, I'm open to other opinions, but my opinion of Angones is certainly negative.
Yes, someone mentioned that Angones and Youngberg talked about introducing characters from Italian comics as well as the possible introduction of Duck Avenger (Donald's superhero ego), since I expected that too, however, after the second season, I'm glad I didn't have to I see, because those characters would be totally different from the original and who knows what they would do. But it is a disappointment because everything was expected from the Ducktales reboot, but nothing came of it. That's why I'm not surprised by Don Rosa's reaction that Ducktales reboot bears no resemblance to comics, even though they refer to it. It’s okay for the Ducktales reboot to be more independent and something special, which it was, however calling for various nostalgic shows and comics as well as adding too many characters and little focus on the main characters as well as poor developments in their characterizations led to Ducktales has become literally a mixture of everything, and that's not good. Djnyr explained to you very well in his essays what mistakes Ducktales reboot made, so I wouldn’t talk about it. And that the Disney management has interfered a lot in these affairs, because they are mostly tied to ratings.
As for children’s shows, which aren’t for preschoolers, what about Mickey Mouse Cartoons by Paul Rudish and Wander Over Yonder who were some of the best Disney cartoons during the 2010s era? Well, Phineas and Ferb wouldn’t have been so watched if it weren’t for Dr. Doofenschmirtz and Perry the Platypus as well as Candace who were the real stars of that series. Gravity Falls would not be so much watched as because of Grunkle Stan and Stanford Pines as well as the villains themselves, Star Vs Forces of the Evil alike and not to mention further. Yes, Gravity Falls was a real revolution 10 years ago, although such a trend was cartoons that action, dark scenes and mysteries, although it started even before, when Cartoon Network released Adventure Time and not to mention what happened before. But you forget one main essence. Donald, Scrooge and HDL have been around for decades as characters and it would be more logical for them to be the main characters. I have already stated that children will watch Donald more than watch his nephews who are not like them. Disney management misjudged such an assessment. Not to mention that children are not interested in sitcoms or adventures or dark mysteries, as much as good comedy. That’s why series like Big City Greens and The Ghost and Molly McGee have more viewership by children than series like Amphibia and The Owl House. That is why such series as The Owl House and Amphibia are canceled and new series are set. Honestly, newer Disney series, which I wouldn’t mention, have now become more boring lately than they were during the 1990s and 2000s eras. In any case, the Ducktales reboot did not meet the expectations of the younger audience (children will watch OG Ducktales and even Quack Pack more than the Ducktales reboot), so it ended the way it ended.
And no, Angones is not without talent. He is one of the writers who wrote for Wander Over Yonder along with Craig McCracken, as he writes for Kid Cosmic on Netflix. That certainly works better for him than writing about Donald and Duckverse. Honestly, I'm partly sorry for him not fulfilling the expectations from his youth to write Darkwing Duck, but he has to understand that famous material is not the same as being a fan of something. Much like it would be if I was a fan of Archie comics, and I don’t know that much about it nor have I read enough about it. I hope you understand me. We’ll see what the Darkwing Duck reboot by Seth Rogen looks like soon, but it certainly won’t look like the Ducktales reboot. As for the relationship between Angones and Anselmo, I don't believe that he has changed for the better, considering that Donald eventually became a second-rate character (supporting character), and Anselmo himself prefers the Legend of the Three Caballeros in his interviews. See: www.youtube.com/watch?v=THN5IeWM7Sc
The point is that Matt Danner, who worked well on the Legends of the Three Caballeros and did a lot of collaboration with Tony Anselmo and allowed Anselmo to rewrite his speeches as he said and that’s why Donald was much more understandable than in the Ducktales reboot. It doesn't matter which series is better, but the treatment according to the voice actors. And Angones and Youngberg are in charge of the Ducktales reboot and that’s why they bear the biggest responsibility. Of course, I don't leave out the others either, but Angones had the main say, so mostly he bears the greatest responsibility. Does that mean he is worthless? No, but that means that he doesn't understand the world of Donald Duck (Duckverse) as he didn't understand himself in other cartoons and comics related to that, and it would be better for him not to do that anymore. Better for him is writing for Kid Cosmic. These critics have already commented on everything before that. You don't have to agree if you don't want to, but you have to know that there are a lot of us fans of Donald Duck and Duckverse who are just disappointed and dissatisfied with how the Ducktales reboot ended. The decline in Ducktales' ratings began in the middle of the second season, although they had some high ratings in some episodes, they certainly could not attract more viewers. Speaking for viewers who watch TV, and Disney Plus, Ducktales is not among the top 25 most watched shows, not on social media. I have already mentioned the reasons why there were not so many audiences, especially among the children, because they were not interested.
The only next sequel to Ducktales I want is the relationship between Duck's cousins (Donald, Della, Fethry and Gladstone), as well as the relationship between Donald and Della when they were children. Here, it wouldn't be if I was against Ducktales, because I didn't, but I just don't want to see such a version in the next period. I certainly don't mind that you love Ducktales, but there's no need to compare so much with modern cartoon series because the Ducktales reboot period is over and we are now in the 2020s era. Of course, I respect your opinion and I apologize for my long descriptions and long answers. I don't know how to shorten it.
When I said that Angones was a bad person, I didn't say that for no reason, but for a reason. Although Angones answered many questions on Tumblr and Twitter, he still blocked dissidents, as well as Ducktales fans who mildly commented on some mistakes in his series. He did not respect that, but blocked it all, without further response. I know people who have experienced that. Not to mention his tweet about Gosalyn. Honestly, even though he deleted that tweet, that tweet certainly came across social media and there was a heated debate about it. The question is why he had to write. I understand he was excited about Darkwing Duck, but what he did led to the cancellation of Darkwing Duck reboot as a sequel to Ducktales. Yes, the episode "Let's Get Dangerous" itself did not lead to full viewership, no matter what anyone else thought. I don't know, if you have an explanation about that, feel free to say, I'm open to other opinions, but my opinion of Angones is certainly negative.
As for children’s shows, which aren’t for preschoolers, what about Mickey Mouse Cartoons by Paul Rudish and Wander Over Yonder who were some of the best Disney cartoons during the 2010s era? Well, Phineas and Ferb wouldn’t have been so watched if it weren’t for Dr. Doofenschmirtz and Perry the Platypus as well as Candace who were the real stars of that series. Gravity Falls would not be so much watched as because of Grunkle Stan and Stanford Pines as well as the villains themselves, Star Vs Forces of the Evil alike and not to mention further. Yes, Gravity Falls was a real revolution 10 years ago, although such a trend was cartoons that action, dark scenes and mysteries, although it started even before, when Cartoon Network released Adventure Time and not to mention what happened before. But you forget one main essence. Donald, Scrooge and HDL have been around for decades as characters and it would be more logical for them to be the main characters. I have already stated that children will watch Donald more than watch his nephews who are not like them. Disney management misjudged such an assessment. Not to mention that children are not interested in sitcoms or adventures or dark mysteries, as much as good comedy. That’s why series like Big City Greens and The Ghost and Molly McGee have more viewership by children than series like Amphibia and The Owl House. That is why such series as The Owl House and Amphibia are canceled and new series are set. Honestly, newer Disney series, which I wouldn’t mention, have now become more boring lately than they were during the 1990s and 2000s eras. In any case, the Ducktales reboot did not meet the expectations of the younger audience (children will watch OG Ducktales and even Quack Pack more than the Ducktales reboot), so it ended the way it ended.
And no, Angones is not without talent. He is one of the writers who wrote for Wander Over Yonder along with Craig McCracken, as he writes for Kid Cosmic on Netflix. That certainly works better for him than writing about Donald and Duckverse. Honestly, I'm partly sorry for him not fulfilling the expectations from his youth to write Darkwing Duck, but he has to understand that famous material is not the same as being a fan of something. Much like it would be if I was a fan of Archie comics, and I don’t know that much about it nor have I read enough about it. I hope you understand me. We’ll see what the Darkwing Duck reboot by Seth Rogen looks like soon, but it certainly won’t look like the Ducktales reboot. As for the relationship between Angones and Anselmo, I don't believe that he has changed for the better, considering that Donald eventually became a second-rate character (supporting character), and Anselmo himself prefers the Legend of the Three Caballeros in his interviews. See: www.youtube.com/watch?v=THN5IeWM7Sc
The point is that Matt Danner, who worked well on the Legends of the Three Caballeros and did a lot of collaboration with Tony Anselmo and allowed Anselmo to rewrite his speeches as he said and that’s why Donald was much more understandable than in the Ducktales reboot. It doesn't matter which series is better, but the treatment according to the voice actors. And Angones and Youngberg are in charge of the Ducktales reboot and that’s why they bear the biggest responsibility. Of course, I don't leave out the others either, but Angones had the main say, so mostly he bears the greatest responsibility. Does that mean he is worthless? No, but that means that he doesn't understand the world of Donald Duck (Duckverse) as he didn't understand himself in other cartoons and comics related to that, and it would be better for him not to do that anymore. Better for him is writing for Kid Cosmic. These critics have already commented on everything before that. You don't have to agree if you don't want to, but you have to know that there are a lot of us fans of Donald Duck and Duckverse who are just disappointed and dissatisfied with how the Ducktales reboot ended. The decline in Ducktales' ratings began in the middle of the second season, although they had some high ratings in some episodes, they certainly could not attract more viewers. Speaking for viewers who watch TV, and Disney Plus, Ducktales is not among the top 25 most watched shows, not on social media. I have already mentioned the reasons why there were not so many audiences, especially among the children, because they were not interested.
Pretty sure Let's Get Dangerous did get some viewership (albeit on Disney NOW since they released it for free on the day it premiered and is on Youtube with over 2 million views), it's just that it was stuck on Disney XD, a channel less have. Ratings in season 3 only fell cause it was on Disney XD which less people have (since the crew wanted episodes to air in proper intended order with no bombs like on Disney Channel in 2019). I doubt Darkwing Duck reboot being handed to Seth Rogen was Angones and Youngberg (at least acknowledge Youngberg too since he's co-creator with Angones so he had equal authority with him)'s fault and likely would've happened even if Darkwing Duck never appeared on Ducktales.
I mean the Mickey Mouse shorts are just 3-5 minute (7 in the Disney Plus retool) shorts, not half hour episodes so of course Disney will be more lenient on that show focusing on adults. Wander Over Yonder's not the best example since while it is popular, it wasn't successful in Disney's eyes given they cancelled it in season 2 cause they assumed "80 episodes were enough" and "reruns have better ratings than premieres" (even though they don't even do reruns after it ended) despite the crew wanting a third season.
And even if the adults in Gravity Falls and Phineas and Ferb are popular (Candace is a teen though so she's still a kid), Disney still pushes the kid protagonists more (every episode of those shows still focuses on Phineas/Ferb/Candace in a major role or Dipper/Mabel in a major role) so the higher ups probably have different reasonings than fandoms do. Children are still interested in dark mysteries and adventures (Gravity Falls, Star vs, and even Ducktales 2017 (sure this site isn't as fond of the show but other people still loved the show) were successful for that reason and even Amphibia and Owl House have large fanbases) plus I'd argue Big City Greens does have sitcom-esque humor (many calling it similar to the older seasons of The Simpsons) so it still has appeal even now. And FYI, Amphibia ended on the creator's own terms and wasn't cancelled (Braly said he only planned it as three seasons and there is a merch like Marcy's Journal coming this fall). The Owl House getting canned came from Disney calling it too serialized and possible homophobia too (the Florida bill isn't making Disney look good in LGBT eyes and Dana's tweets on the matter since then don't help).
Okay, why you gotta keep using the Disney Duck Q/A as the only thing on Anselmo's opinion on the show. I won't deny Anselmo prefers Legend of the Three Caballeros, but he certainly doesn't hate Ducktales either. Anselmo clarified in another interview that they already fixed his issues when they were doing seasons 2-3 when they cut the dialogue down and no longer sped the lines up anymore so I doubt the crew was being that mean to Anselmo and positive they do respect him (he said the issues were more specifically the fact Donald had too much dialogue to the point of long monologues and being sped up (as in talking faster)) here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mag6i_2Gs1U (skip to 25:00 when he was asked about the show leading to him talking about the specifics of what was going on and 28:11 when he talks about season 2 onward). Even the speeding up thing I doubt was a disrespect thing given how it seems to be a common practice in modern cartoons to speed voices in post to fit pacing purposes. I think Matt Braly said they do the same thing on Amphibia also for the actors on the show. Heck, Tony did express on Instagram he actually found the Don Cheadle gag amusing so I doubt there were hard feelings involved for the Cheadle episodes. He also spoke highly of the show in Florida Supercon 2017 (skip to 1:42:15 at www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZVklpwyG2Q for when he talks about it) and it seems even he was just as guilty for overselling Donald's presence on the show as the producers and marketing team. He also attended the premiere party in 2017 (
I think Ducktales' ratings falling after The Duck Knight Returns came more from episodes being aired in the bomb format (which they did for lots of shows that year like Big Hero 6 season 2, Tangled season 3A, Amphibia season 1, Milo Murphy's Law season 2, and Star vs season 4) at 3 PM when kids were still in school (ratings going to 200,000-300,000 range now) and then season 3 being on Disney XD which less people have (even then, it was still Disney XD's highest rated show of 2020-21). And of course it's not in top 25 most watched right now, the show ended like a year ago. Besides, it did trend on Twitter such as when the #RenewDuckTales thing right before it was announced the show was ending (and then that got the show trending), when the final episodes aired in spring 2021, and again when the art book was announced. And anyway, the fact the show still got This Duckburg Life podcast, an upcoming Art of DuckTales book set to release this fall, and still acknowledged on Disney TVA and Disney twitter accounts (plus having pins at Walt Disney World ( )) would show even if it didn't get a season 4 (willing to bet it was due to the pandemic forcing budget cuts at Disney TVA (same reason Owl House was on the chopping block too)), it was still successful enough in Disney's eyes to keep acknowledging it.
When I said that Angones was a bad person, I didn't say that for no reason, but for a reason. Although Angones answered many questions on Tumblr and Twitter, he still blocked dissidents, as well as Ducktales fans who mildly commented on some mistakes in his series. He did not respect that, but blocked it all, without further response. I know people who have experienced that. Not to mention his tweet about Gosalyn. Honestly, even though he deleted that tweet, that tweet certainly came across social media and there was a heated debate about it. The question is why he had to write. I understand he was excited about Darkwing Duck, but what he did led to the cancellation of Darkwing Duck reboot as a sequel to Ducktales. Yes, the episode "Let's Get Dangerous" itself did not lead to full viewership, no matter what anyone else thought. I don't know, if you have an explanation about that, feel free to say, I'm open to other opinions, but my opinion of Angones is certainly negative.
As for children’s shows, which aren’t for preschoolers, what about Mickey Mouse Cartoons by Paul Rudish and Wander Over Yonder who were some of the best Disney cartoons during the 2010s era? Well, Phineas and Ferb wouldn’t have been so watched if it weren’t for Dr. Doofenschmirtz and Perry the Platypus as well as Candace who were the real stars of that series. Gravity Falls would not be so much watched as because of Grunkle Stan and Stanford Pines as well as the villains themselves, Star Vs Forces of the Evil alike and not to mention further. Yes, Gravity Falls was a real revolution 10 years ago, although such a trend was cartoons that action, dark scenes and mysteries, although it started even before, when Cartoon Network released Adventure Time and not to mention what happened before. But you forget one main essence. Donald, Scrooge and HDL have been around for decades as characters and it would be more logical for them to be the main characters. I have already stated that children will watch Donald more than watch his nephews who are not like them. Disney management misjudged such an assessment. Not to mention that children are not interested in sitcoms or adventures or dark mysteries, as much as good comedy. That’s why series like Big City Greens and The Ghost and Molly McGee have more viewership by children than series like Amphibia and The Owl House. That is why such series as The Owl House and Amphibia are canceled and new series are set. Honestly, newer Disney series, which I wouldn’t mention, have now become more boring lately than they were during the 1990s and 2000s eras. In any case, the Ducktales reboot did not meet the expectations of the younger audience (children will watch OG Ducktales and even Quack Pack more than the Ducktales reboot), so it ended the way it ended.
And no, Angones is not without talent. He is one of the writers who wrote for Wander Over Yonder along with Craig McCracken, as he writes for Kid Cosmic on Netflix. That certainly works better for him than writing about Donald and Duckverse. Honestly, I'm partly sorry for him not fulfilling the expectations from his youth to write Darkwing Duck, but he has to understand that famous material is not the same as being a fan of something. Much like it would be if I was a fan of Archie comics, and I don’t know that much about it nor have I read enough about it. I hope you understand me. We’ll see what the Darkwing Duck reboot by Seth Rogen looks like soon, but it certainly won’t look like the Ducktales reboot. As for the relationship between Angones and Anselmo, I don't believe that he has changed for the better, considering that Donald eventually became a second-rate character (supporting character), and Anselmo himself prefers the Legend of the Three Caballeros in his interviews. See: www.youtube.com/watch?v=THN5IeWM7Sc
The point is that Matt Danner, who worked well on the Legends of the Three Caballeros and did a lot of collaboration with Tony Anselmo and allowed Anselmo to rewrite his speeches as he said and that’s why Donald was much more understandable than in the Ducktales reboot. It doesn't matter which series is better, but the treatment according to the voice actors. And Angones and Youngberg are in charge of the Ducktales reboot and that’s why they bear the biggest responsibility. Of course, I don't leave out the others either, but Angones had the main say, so mostly he bears the greatest responsibility. Does that mean he is worthless? No, but that means that he doesn't understand the world of Donald Duck (Duckverse) as he didn't understand himself in other cartoons and comics related to that, and it would be better for him not to do that anymore. Better for him is writing for Kid Cosmic. These critics have already commented on everything before that. You don't have to agree if you don't want to, but you have to know that there are a lot of us fans of Donald Duck and Duckverse who are just disappointed and dissatisfied with how the Ducktales reboot ended. The decline in Ducktales' ratings began in the middle of the second season, although they had some high ratings in some episodes, they certainly could not attract more viewers. Speaking for viewers who watch TV, and Disney Plus, Ducktales is not among the top 25 most watched shows, not on social media. I have already mentioned the reasons why there were not so many audiences, especially among the children, because they were not interested.
Pretty sure Let's Get Dangerous did get some viewership (albeit on Disney NOW since they released it for free on the day it premiered and is on Youtube with over 2 million views), it's just that it was stuck on Disney XD, a channel less have. Ratings in season 3 only fell cause it was on Disney XD which less people have (since the crew wanted episodes to air in proper intended order with no bombs like on Disney Channel in 2019). I doubt Darkwing Duck reboot being handed to Seth Rogen was Angones and Youngberg (at least acknowledge Youngberg too since he's co-creator with Angones so he had equal authority with him)'s fault and likely would've happened even if Darkwing Duck never appeared on Ducktales.
I mean the Mickey Mouse shorts are just 3-5 minute (7 in the Disney Plus retool) shorts, not half hour episodes so of course Disney will be more lenient on that show focusing on adults. Wander Over Yonder's not the best example since while it is popular, it wasn't successful in Disney's eyes given they cancelled it in season 2 cause they assumed "80 episodes were enough" and "reruns have better ratings than premieres" (even though they don't even do reruns after it ended) despite the crew wanting a third season.
And even if the adults in Gravity Falls and Phineas and Ferb are popular (Candace is a teen though so she's still a kid), Disney still pushes the kid protagonists more (every episode of those shows still focuses on Phineas/Ferb/Candace in a major role or Dipper/Mabel in a major role) so the higher ups probably have different reasonings than fandoms do. Children are still interested in dark mysteries and adventures (Gravity Falls, Star vs, and even Ducktales 2017 (sure this site isn't as fond of the show but other people still loved the show) were successful for that reason and even Amphibia and Owl House have large fanbases) plus I'd argue Big City Greens does have sitcom-esque humor (many calling it similar to the older seasons of The Simpsons) so it still has appeal even now. And FYI, Amphibia ended on the creator's own terms and wasn't cancelled (Braly said he only planned it as three seasons and there is a merch like Marcy's Journal coming this fall). The Owl House getting canned came from Disney calling it too serialized and possible homophobia too (the Florida bill isn't making Disney look good in LGBT eyes and Dana's tweets on the matter since then don't help).
Okay, why you gotta keep using the Disney Duck Q/A as the only thing on Anselmo's opinion on the show. I won't deny Anselmo prefers Legend of the Three Caballeros, but he certainly doesn't hate Ducktales either. Anselmo clarified in another interview that they already fixed his issues when they were doing seasons 2-3 when they cut the dialogue down and no longer sped the lines up anymore so I doubt the crew was being that mean to Anselmo and positive they do respect him (he said the issues were more specifically the fact Donald had too much dialogue to the point of long monologues and being sped up (as in talking faster)) here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mag6i_2Gs1U (skip to 25:00 when he was asked about the show leading to him talking about the specifics of what was going on and 28:11 when he talks about season 2 onward). Even the speeding up thing I doubt was a disrespect thing given how it seems to be a common practice in modern cartoons to speed voices in post to fit pacing purposes. I think Matt Braly said they do the same thing on Amphibia also for the actors on the show. Heck, Tony did express on Instagram he actually found the Don Cheadle gag amusing so I doubt there were hard feelings involved for the Cheadle episodes. He also spoke highly of the show in Florida Supercon 2017 (skip to 1:42:15 at www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZVklpwyG2Q for when he talks about it) and it seems even he was just as guilty for overselling Donald's presence on the show as the producers and marketing team. He also attended the premiere party in 2017 (
I think Ducktales' ratings falling after The Duck Knight Returns came more from episodes being aired in the bomb format (which they did for lots of shows that year like Big Hero 6 season 2, Tangled season 3A, Amphibia season 1, Milo Murphy's Law season 2, and Star vs season 4) at 3 PM when kids were still in school (ratings going to 200,000-300,000 range now) and then season 3 being on Disney XD which less people have (even then, it was still Disney XD's highest rated show of 2020-21). And of course it's not in top 25 most watched right now, the show ended like a year ago. Besides, it did trend on Twitter such as when the #RenewDuckTales thing right before it was announced the show was ending (and then that got the show trending), when the final episodes aired in spring 2021, and again when the art book was announced. And anyway, the fact the show still got This Duckburg Life podcast, an upcoming Art of DuckTales book set to release this fall, and still acknowledged on Disney TVA and Disney twitter accounts (plus having pins at Walt Disney World (
)) would show even if it didn't get a season 4 (willing to bet it was due to the pandemic forcing budget cuts at Disney TVA (same reason Owl House was on the chopping block too)), it was still successful enough in Disney's eyes to keep acknowledging it.
I don't know why you defend some decisions of the Disney company, when they don't know anything about quality or the right audience, they want more money. I think it wouldn't be a problem, if it wasn't all a marketing trick. No creativity. I've already said that the Ducktales reboot didn't really end up being for the kid audience, but for teenagers and the nostalgics who watched Disney Afternoon when they were little kids. Not to mention writing stories and scripts in the Ducktales reboot. It's more on the level of fanfiction written by teenagers than someone who writes stories seriously. As for other Disney series, similar stories, they generally got more viewership than Ducktales, because today's audience (primarily teenagers and young adults) respond that way, but future generations of children prefer comedy more. That's why Big City Greens is gaining more popularity, because the Gravity Falls era is over. Maybe I was wrong about Amphibia, but certainly that series ended at the end, better than the Ducktales reboot finale (although that Amphibia finale was ugh...kinda bad, but better anyway). Owl House will get a third season if I'm not mistaken, but it certainly ends the way creator Dana Terrace decided after she had a falling out with Disney management. I wouldn't talk about politics, but what happened in Florida is more about the mismanagement of politics at Disneyland, but I wouldn't talk about that.
Yes, there is guilt in that, as far as promotion is concerned. But have you ever wondered why Ducktales made it back to Disney XD? Because they told their story when Della Duck got home and it served no further purpose. This with F.O.W.L. was a flop, while for Negaduck, yes, they needed more focus on it, but because of the Jim Cummings situation, they couldn't do it. The children got bored of it and decided to watch another series. I know friends who gave up on Ducktales after the second season. But yeah, it wasn't fair that they ended up airing Ducktales on Mondays when no one is watching, though again that's all due to the drop in ratings. Back then, it was measured by viewership on TV, not on social networks.
Those Twitter links from 2017 are one thing, and the interview from 2018 and 2019 is another. Then the Ducktales reboot started airing so I understand all the excitement, but later not really, except for true fans who love that series. I'm sure Anselmo had to say something positive about it, because he didn't want to offend the fans, but the fact is that he preferred Legend of the Tire Caballeros to Ducktales. And I didn't say he hated Ducktales, just that he didn't. It's one thing to hate, it's another to not love. Huge difference and it's unfortunate that you misinterpreted my answer. Maybe Anselmo loved Ducktales in the sense that Donald had badass moments, I agree and I love Donald in Ducktales, but I don't like how he got his treatment there, but long story short, and they've talked about it before.
Well, Disney's Ducktales merchandise isn't much more marketable than it was when the original Ducktales aired. That podcast is no longer broadcast, because no one cares anymore. But there is one thing you will like. Ducktales at EPCOT will be back though, so it's not all lost, but like I said before, I don't think it's going to have the same passionate audience it had five years ago and that's just the way it is. There are more who will prefer the original Ducktales and comics. Yes, there are already comics that use Donald's nephews and maybe Daisy Duck differently, but not in the way that many people think. The children's book Duckscares as well as the Area 15 comics from Topolino have independent development from Ducktales. link And no, the Darkwing Duck reboot will have nothing to do with the Ducktales reboot.
Sorry about this, I partially agree with you and Disney management is more to blame, but kids just don't like Ducktales. Except for exceptions. I know we disagree on many things, but simply put, the Ducktales reboot is going to be out of date soon. Especially as soon as the new Duck series comes out. And you know how Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers fared. So did the Ducktales reboot. Sorry about this, but I certainly respect your opinions.
Post by donaldistducktoons on Sept 11, 2022 6:07:52 GMT
I know a lot of Ducktales 2017 fans will disagree with me and I apologize for that, but simply like I said earlier the Ducktales reboot will get old soon and when the new generations come along they will of course find Ducktales 2017 too zoomers minded and too 2010s era. After all, even today's children (honorable exceptions) are not eager for the current Ducktales because it is not attractive to them, it is more for the nostalgic and for the older teenage group, primarily for girls between 16 and 28 years old.
But I don't know what the Darkwing Duck reboot will be like but I hope it won't look the same or worse than the Ducktales reboot was. I know, but the Ducktales reboot just isn't for me. I just hope the Darkwing Duck reboot is better, but I have a bad feeling about it.
As for the new Duck series, if it happens in a few years, and it will have to happen, because in 11 years it will be the 100th anniversary of Donald Duck, it is to rely more on the animated adaptation of the comics with a little modernity so that it does not offend the old nor the younger audience. Somehow I imagined that the new Duck series would be suitable for all generations, so the main characters would be divided into three categories: 1. children - in which the main characters are Huey, Dewey and Louie as Donald's nephews and April, May and June as Daisy's nieces. Yes, Donald's nephews would definitely be preteens with some of the taking on personality as they have in the Quack Pack and in the Italian and some of the Dutch comics. For Daisy's nieces I would go with the Dutch version where they are different in both their hair and their personalities. 2. adults-Donald and Daisy for sure, of course children also like to watch them so it would be good if they were definitely the main characters. 3. elderly people - Scrooge McDuck and Grandma Duck and those main representatives of elderly people. Scrooge would certainly be the bastard man that he is, but with little parental sentiment, and Grandma Duck would be the voice of reason in the Duck family.
There would certainly be a lot of characters from the Duck family and their friends, not to mention them now. Yes, and the animation would be like the animation from the 1990s era. Just give it to the right people who understand it, above all who work and draw comics, and there will be good results. Just so they don't repeat the mistakes the Ducktales reboot made. Of course these are just my ideas and my opinions for the future, although today's Disney is absolutely not that interested in Donald Duck and the Duckverse in general.
Otherwise, I would like if by any chance they could make an animated adaptation of Duck Avenger (Paperinik) and Double Duck, since even though current generations are more focused on superheroes than before. Just give it to people who understand it and it will be fine, although I highly doubt it will happen.