Ducktales 2017

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Sept 16, 2017 13:49:53 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

BTW, what's "OC"?

OC (and OOC, used earlier) are both fanfic terms. "OC" stands for "Original Character" — a non-canon character created by the fanfiction writer and inserted into the story. "OOC" means "Out-Of-Character" and refers to fanfiction writers making a canon character act in a way that feels contradictory to their canonical personality. Both terms could be used when referring to Gyro here — he's an OC in the sense that they basically created a new character and called him Gyro, and OOC is self-explanatory.

[The KKM]

yeyeyeyeeeeeah going to have to do a lot of "this is a different cartoon relax" on this. This isn't Gyro, this is Wile E. Coyote, Super-Genius from the shorts where he faced Bugs Bunny

[Baar Baar Jinx]

It's also obvious from the above clip that Louie is somehow going to be responsible for turning Li'l Bulb into an antagonistic robot villain, rather than a disgruntled Gyro (although Gyro looks pretty disgruntled as Scrooge ushers him out in this latest promo):



EDIT: Just noticed the Beagle Boys don't wear gloves this time, which is a good thing.

[drleevezan]

Those shadows on the wall...maybe a reference to the video game duck skeletons? I sure hope so! There should be an episode where Scrooge pogo-canes onto one of them causing them to fall apart, so it resembles and runs at him, crashing into a wall, reassembling again, and repeating, as they do in the game!

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[Pan Maciej]

Maybe the new show will tell the story how Gyro became his humlble persona... I don't think so, but still...

P.S.
If Gyro is this arogant I'm scared what they planing to do with Gladstone Gander...

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Sept 18, 2017 9:00:09 GMT Pan Maciej said:

Maybe the new show will tell the story how Gyro became his humlble persona... I don't think so, but still...

P.S.
If Gyro is this arogant I'm scared what they planing to do with Gladstone Gander...

Beyond just his personality, Gyro's entire role has been reinvented. He's no longer a freelance inventor with a ramshackle lab in his house, eager to use his talents to help Donald and friends out of nothing more than the sheer love of science and a nominal fee that barely covers his expenses. He's now head of R&D at McDuck Enterprises, and invents "Li'l Bulb" not as a companion for himself but as a product to be mass-marketed and capitalized on. Even if he were to somehow metamorphose into the quiet, unassuming genius from the comics (unlikely to happen and unbelievable if it does), it wouldn't be the same as it being his basic nature. 

[drleevezan]

Maybe the reason Gyro is like this is because Scrooge's inventor was going to be Ludwig von Drake, and so they just completely moved Ludwig's role to Gyro, including his personality (because Ludwig can be arrogant at times)

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Sept 19, 2017 0:09:47 GMT drleevezan said:

Maybe the reason Gyro is like this is because Scrooge's inventor was going to be Ludwig von Drake, and so they just completely moved Ludwig's role to Gyro, including his personality (because Ludwig can be arrogant at times)

I'm quite sure that's true; as mentioned the creators have made statements suggesting that they think Ludwig and Gyro serve the same function and are essentially interchangeable. In Ludwig, conceit and self-importance is endearing; in Gyro it rankles, and that has mostly to do with the fact that these are two characters whose attributes are well-known and well-established. Of course, Gyro isn't the only character DuckTales '17 has redone; Beakley and Webby bear no resemblance to their DuckTales '87 counterparts, physically or personality-wise. But Gyro is the first character I care about to be changed this way. (Well, I guess the non-identical nephews with individual personalities is a big one, but that's a topic in itself).

[Pan Maciej]

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[Pan Maciej]

Ok. 

- Day Trip of Doom - this episode felt Ok at best... The plot was very simple and while The Beagle Boys where the villians but they didn't left much of impression (the way they introduce them it almost felt like the writers asume the viewer already know who they are) I like the new skinny Beagle who dosen't talk, but then I realize his name is... BURGER () Wird change. Why not just make him Baggy? Webby do explain who The Beagle Boys are by saying "they tried to brake to your Uncle Scrooges mansion many times" - huh, no massive Beagle attacks on the Money Bin, in this universe, I guess? Also they did shown one of the Beagles without the mask for a moment... Isn't that's like braking one of sacret, unspoken rules?

There was few funny interactions between Donald and Mrs. Beakley and I did felt sorry for Webby, she was very relatable near the end but that's all I have to say about this episode. It was mostly "meh", just to show how the Ducks are ajusting to living with Scrooge. 

Oh, all the puke jokes in Dewey's game felt off-character for the duck universe. 


- Great Dime Chase - Now where talking! This episode how a lot more energy and cleverness AND the bigger storyline developes. Stuff gets mysterious...

I like the idea that they spent entire episode in the Money Bin, introducing diffrent aspects of the place and characters who work there, as well that they made of point of explaining why the dime is important to Scrooge especialy BEFORE introducing Magica DeSpell. 

I like that Money Bin keeps many hidden secrets... 

I got use to the new Gyro near the end of the episode (especialy the part when he is trying stop Lill Bulb felt more like the old Gyro0 however they are constantly hinting there is something sinter about him... Are they planing to adapt my fan-fiction or something? 

I do like the way Little Bulb/Helper moves and make "fecial" expressions... 


Some observation (SPOILERS) :

- We meet Mrs. Emily Quackfaster who's insane keeper of Scrooges archives now... I'm down with that. It's actually first time her name is used in animation as she was re-named Mrs. Featherby in the old show.

- One of the Buzzards mention that Scrooge spents fortune on... ANTI-MAGIC protection for the Money Bin. An hint of Magica DeSpell?

- Webby mentions "Plain Awful"(!) I belive it's the first time we hear the name in animation.

- Huey dosen't appear in the episode... that's interesting.

- I'm not spoil it but Gyro mention a certain catchprase that made me squealed with joy... 

- Man, the face Dewey made after he got cood in the finger with a needel. It felt like realistic pain, not cartoonish one. There was something odd about that moment. 

- Was that the ship from "Treasure of the Golden suns" in the background in one scene?

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Sept 23, 2017 22:02:49 GMT Pan Maciej said:

- Huey dosen't appear in the episode... that's interesting.-

Donald didn't either, did he? That is simply not on. Donald must appear in every episode!

I think my favorite new/reimagined DuckTales '17 character(s) are the Buzzard Brothers. They're hardhearted, money-grubbing, and tightfisted, and look askance at some of Scrooge's profligate eccentricities (lavishing money on his first dime, maintaining a wasteful archive room and paying superfluous employees, traveling on low-yield expeditions). "You have a perfectly good office downtown, do you really need a Money Bin?" They present a nice balance to Scrooge's sentimentality. That element was missing even in the comics; Donald and sometimes Clerkly played that role, but from the other side (more alarmed at Scrooge's frugality).

"The Great Dime Chase" had lots of Easter Eggs ... a number of references to Rosa comics and the Time Tub from DuckTales '87 (that apparently became sentient).

Looks like they're going with some variation of the idea of Della in Space after all.  That's fine with me, as long as it's self-contained in this alternate universe and not imported as canon into the comics. They do also seem to be setting her up to a single mother ... it's always about HD&L's mother, not their parents.

The latest promo gives us a glimpse at Gladstone's casino, "House of the Lucky Gander". I still maintain this is a stroke of genius. Gladstone is a character this series might get right. It's been hinted that his father might appear ... I guess we'll see.



And in case you missed it, here's a panel from the latest issue of Topolino ...

[Minotaur]

Sept 23, 2017 12:52:09 GMT Pan Maciej said:

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Just out of curiosity, since you live in Poland, how did you manage to watch the show?

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Sept 24, 2017 0:58:59 GMT Minotaur said:

Sept 23, 2017 12:52:09 GMT Pan Maciej said:

CURSE ME BACKPIPES! TWO NEW EPISODE AIR TODAY!!! ))))))))))   

Just out of curiosity, since you live in Poland, how did you manage to watch the show?

Disney XD app, I'd wager.

[The KKM]

Or through obvious less-than-legal means that would be uncouth to mention publicly here

[Monkey_Feyerabend]

[Comment with vague spoilers]

I expected this week's episodes to be less exciting than the pilot, with less amazing dialogues and memorable moments and so. This considered, I enjoyed watching these two new episodes. It is good that the ducks are not sent for adventures too quickly and too easily. I want to explore this new Duckburg.
Two aspects I really loved so far:
1) the idea of making everyone around McDuck completely loony (McQuack, Gyro, Quackfaster, and even Ms. Beakley in a way). 
2) Scrooge himself: he is the damn funnier character in the series so far! I did not expected this. We will have much time to analyze his personality as long as the series goes. For the moment I am happy to say that he has the best comical moments, reactions, lines. An the actor is great.


EDIT: ah yeah, I was forgetting...what about this violent little helper?!?  I love him, I almost died on his dead menaces.    This series takes some steps - in terms of adult humor - that I wish the comics would have already explored since decades! Instead...