I received the book a few weeks ago from bol.com. I am living in the Netherlands. Amazon.nl is more expensive and very often they do not have US books in stock. It has something to do with environmental issues of getting the books to Europe. Furthermore silent night is not included in the book. It is mentioned but skipped. Disney is not only doing this kind of things with the Barks books but also with Marvel books. In the new marvel masterworks of the fantastic four they have censored some text.
It's supposed to come out on 20-8-2024 (three days ago). According to Fantagraphics themselves it's already out of stock (?!). Considering The Netherlands, Europe: bol.com asks 39.99 Euro and Amazon.nl a whopping 91.99 Euro (idiots!).
I have a sneakin' suspicion the volume ain't really for sale yet.
I received the book a few weeks ago from bol.com. I am living in the Netherlands. Amazon.nl is more expensive and very often they do not have US books in stock. It has something to do with environmental issues of getting the books to Europe. Furthermore silent night is not included in the book. It is mentioned but skipped. Disney is not only doing this kind of things with the Barks books but also with Marvel books. In the new marvel masterworks of the fantastic four they have censored some text.
Thank you for the info.
Yeah. We've discussed this for the past volume "Maharadja Donald". Amazon is environmentally out of his mind bat sh*t crazy. I see that I ordered the previous volume at Bol.com too. Strange thing is that it takes more than a few days to arrive, according to Bol. Usually, if they have something in stock, it's at your doorstep within one or two working days so I was suspicious. These recent two volumes have no picture of the product on Bol.com which also makes me suspicious. I think even Bol is slowly losing interest in these books (maybe they have a few in stock in Germany and ship it to The Netherlands which takes a while). Fantagraphics had better complete the collection fast because there's no future in buying American books here in Europe. Blackwells ships to the The Netherlands too if I'm not mistaken. Maybe that's an option for the future.
(BTW The price of a Fantagraphics book has risen from approx. 25 Euro to approx. 40 Euro. Isn't that more than inflation? Oh well, you can't have everything.)
Last Edit: Aug 25, 2024 15:57:43 GMT by meneerjansen
(BTW The price of a Fantagraphics book has risen from approx. 25 Euro to approx. 40 Euro. Isn't that more than inflation? Oh well, you can't have everything.)
when I bought the first volume of cbdl (lost in the andes) in late 2012, I then paid what would be equal to 11€ nowadays, and that was full price!!!
Donald the Milkman (CS WDC 215 ) is included in vol.19. This story was written in 1957, but was first published in 1974 (Netherlands, in Donald Duck #47). Barks also commented on the reason for the rejection, "this story was shelved because Donald was too mean to the villain." Vol.19 includes stories written by Barks in 1957-1958, so I think fantagraphics included the stories according to the date of creation. So the conclusion is - if Silent Night is not included in vol.3, it will never appear in the complete library. But who knows, maybe in a few years, those censored stories will reappear in the reprinted books. It is obvious to me that this series of books is being censored and edited by Disney reviewers. This is really a disaster for loyal fans who just want to collect all the works of Barks. I bought and collected the Barks Library published by Another Rainbow in the 1980s. They are expensive and heavy. Despite this, this detailed and complete collection still made some changes to Barks' works (such as dialogues and character faces). Different eras have different value judgments on the same story, but it is really difficult to collect all of Barks' complete works that have not been changed beyond recognition in the same era.
How can Disney justify not allowing "Silent Night" in this Barks Collection IF they allow The Milkman story? Both show Donald behaving violently and mean-mannered. The only difference is that "Silent Night" has Jones zapping Donald with an electric prod. It would be painful, but couldn't endanger his life or permanent health condition. This bothers me greatly. This collection of expensive books is not going to be bought for little children who might be afraid of such action. They see a lot worse levels of violence in cartoons. These collections are bought almost exclusively by nostalgic adults who read the stories as children, and who are old enough, and Worldly enough to know these are comedic fantasy stories for entertainment, and are not going to read them to their children and give them the desire to electrocute people with electric cattle prods. This is completely unfair. They are worried that Dr. Wertham types will alert The World that the so-called kid-friendly Walt Disney Company is showing kids how to enjoy being violent and hurt other people physically, and ruin their company's good reputation. They didn't stop that story from being printed in a floppy paper comic book that cost a low enough price that it COULD have been bought by a relatively young child, and certainly was bought by adults for their children. So why would they not allow it to be printed in a very expensive hardbound author collection, aimed strictly at adult collectors???
I own that story no less than 3 times (see inducks.org/story.php?c=CS+WDC++64 under "Publications - Netherlands"): once in the "Donald Duck" weekly magazine from 1986, once in uncolored line art in "Alle klassieke verhalen 1 - 1942-1944 (1988)" and once in " De beste verhalen van Donald Duck 73 - Donald Duck als vuurtorenwachter (1992)". So it wasn't offensive when they published in "Inkt" magazine in Holland in 1976, it wasn't offensive in 1986, it wasn't offensive in 1992 but in 2024 it is? Disney is pathetic and exaggerating greatly.
The worst part is that this is considered a very good story. And we don't get to read it anymore if it's up to Disney.
Last Edit: Aug 25, 2024 16:26:38 GMT by meneerjansen
Censorship again and again and again? The story “Silent Night” is listed in Page236, but it is not in the Vol.3 actually. Why? Is this just because Donald was too mean to Jones? Like being rejected by editors in the last century (WDC64)? Now Vol.21, 23, 26, 28, 4, 3 have all been censored.
I read through "Silent Night" just now (I still have this 2001 issue of the Swedish Kalle Anka & C:o. from my childhood that it was printed in), and I don't know... the only thing that stands out to me as something that potentially could be considered too much is Jones zapping Donald with electricity to make him sing all night at the end. I *guess* that could be considered unusally cruel/violent in a "realistic way" for these comics, for a "non-villain" character? But it doesn't strike me as bad enough to get the story removed. Maybe it was moved to a later, not-yet-published volume, on account of how its first publication was in 1976?
Although it's not particularly realistic, Jones shoving the accordion down Donald's throat always disturbed me. It's on a different level compared to the stuff we usually see in Disney comics. But I wouldn't accept that as a reason to leave it out of a library that's aimed more at adult collectors.
The reason that story was shelved was because it was scheduled to be on the shelves during the two weeks before Christmas and the two weeks after. It was felt that it was not an appropriate way for Donald to treat Jones during The Christmas season, because that is the time that ALL of Mankind should think deeply about how they've been conducting their lives, and they should follow "The Christmas Spirit" in realising one of The Ten Commandments, that they should each "Love Thy Neighbour as Thyself), and thus follow "The Golden Rule", and "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". The editors felt that Donald's and Jones' mean and violent behaviour was totally inappropriate for The Christmas Holiday and violating The Christmas Spirit, and so be a bad example for the highly impressionable little kiddies. We all know that such violence between those 2 characters was accepted both during the several months before, and several years after. I think it's just a shame, because I think it is hypocritical of The Christian ethic to feel that ANY time of the year should be singled out for especially good behaviour. The standard should be that individuals should be monitoring their behaviour every day of their lives, to make sure they are doing their best to make sure their own actions are not hurting other people, animals, plants unless needed for food to survive), and The Earth. Maybe I'm a Jewish Bhuddist/Hindu? - Or an Environmentalist Beatnik/Socialist/Anarchist? In any case I'm glad the story was shelved, because we got a replacement Barks story for January 1945, and we got THIS story, which I received from Malcolm Willits in 1965, photocopied it, redrew the missing first half page (upon receiving instructions from Carl Barks as to what he drew, in an early 1966 meeting with him, and hand colouring photocopies of the inked original boards). In late 1973, I gave a copy of that and The 1957 "Milkman Story" to our editor at Oberon (Dutch Disney Comics) and the latter was printed in The Dutch Donald Duck Weekly in 1974. "Silent Night" (Which I had previously Titled "A Christmas Carol"("Een Kerstlied"), was not published until 1986 because the editor said it was incomplete without Barks' first page top half. It was finally published first at Christmas 1985, when I got Thom Roep to understand that Carl, himself told me what was on the panels and how things were situated, and so got in-house artist, Michel Nadorp, to redraw one of the panels that I had drawn, to make it acceptable. I'm glad my friend, Daan Jippes was chosen to redraw the non-Barks panels for The US printing, as he draws Barks 1944-52 classic style the best of anyone.
Thank you for sharing the story on the redrawing of the top half of the first page.
For the Dutch people here (and maybe others from the EU).
I ordered at Bol.com. The book came within 3 days. Strangely, Bol does not have a picture of the book on it's page to order the book and they said it would take up to 2 weeks to deliver. Same thing last year (no picture, vague about delivery). Since last year Amazon.nl does not want to deliver books that were printed outside of the EU because of the carbon-footprint. Note: the buffoons do offer to ship it, be it at a ridiculous 90 Euro. Do the Euro's compensate for the CO2?
In the (near) future Blackwells may be an alternative. But beware: Blackwells doesn't have the Barks Fantagraphics books for sale after a few months. Example: the previous volume (okt. 2023) ''Maharadja Donald' cannot be ordered anymore at Blackwells!
Last Edit: Aug 27, 2024 15:10:35 GMT by meneerjansen
Censorship +1. This time it was vol.4 Maharajah Donald, page 95, the story Swimming Swindlers (W WDC 71-02). This is a real disaster for me 😂 The cigarette in the little boy's mouth was wiped away. What are they afraid of? Those are harmless and true and humorous details for adults readers. I should call this series ''the Complete CENSORED Carl Barks CHILDREN Book Library". Here are the sources. x.com/jeff_dyer/status/1829337312490082541 ?s=46&t=YOOBcuORL_ksRCpRw0O5Zw
"The Icebox Robber" in volume 3 has some text censored, at least when Donald mistakes the nephews for japanese soldiers while sleepwalking.
When was the last time this was actually released unedited? I've got a copy of Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #627 and it's the same chanaged text there as well.
"The Icebox Robber" in volume 3 has some text censored, at least when Donald mistakes the nephews for japanese soldiers while sleepwalking.
When was the last time this was actually released unedited? I've got a copy of Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #627 and it's the same chanaged text there as well.
"The Icebox Robber" in volume 3 has some text censored, at least when Donald mistakes the nephews for japanese soldiers while sleepwalking.
When was the last time this was actually released unedited? I've got a copy of Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #627 and it's the same chanaged text there as well.
Censorship +1. This time it was vol.4 Maharajah Donald, page 95, the story Swimming Swindlers (W WDC 71-02). This is a real disaster for me 😂 The cigarette in the little boy's mouth was wiped away. What are they afraid of? Those are harmless and true and humorous details for adults readers. I should call this series ''the Complete CENSORED Carl Barks CHILDREN Book Library". Here are the sources. x.com/jeff_dyer/status/1829337312490082541 ?s=46&t=YOOBcuORL_ksRCpRw0O5Zw
It’s not censored in the European Carl Barks Collection btw. I have the German version, but they used the same source for all other versions.
Last Edit: Sept 10, 2024 13:30:52 GMT by philipp616