"Disney Masters" from Fantagraphics

[deb]

I just received Giorgio Cavazzano book today, and just flipping through the pages, this book is a beauty to behold. Cavazzano's artwork is really a treat for the eyes. This looks like a good one! I also have the next Paul Murry volume coming soon, and I ordered the Al Hubbard/Dick Kinney volume tonight as well. Admittedly, I have a lot less to say about Murry's work, other than it is consistent and at best, enjoyable. The upcoming Paul Murry Phantom Blot book looks like it will be noteworthy mostly for the unusualness of the premise and stories, offering a break from Carl Falberg's tried and true formula for the Mickey serials.

[Spectrus]

Oct 27, 2020 20:46:09 GMT Mesterius said:

Oct 27, 2020 11:51:55 GMT Spectrus said:

I guess his storytelling became a bit mellower and less extreme. But I think 1) the plot is really interesting 2) Goofy shines very strongly and 3) I happen to love the inking by Sandro Del Conte. To me this period of Scarpa is among the most beautiful Mickeys I've ever seen.

Ahhh. I guess we differ in our viewpoint of Sandro Del Conte then (and that era of Scarpa). I much prefer Scarpa's art inked by Rodolfo Cimino and Giorgio Cavazzano, in the 60s and 70s. The art just feels more energetic and alive to me in those earlier decades. Case in point: In 1984, Scarpa did an epilogue to his 1972 epic "Pippo e i parastinchi di Olympia", which I honestly think is pretty insignificant and disappointing compared to the original. The pocketbook edition I read printed the sequel right after the original story (naturally enough), and you could really feel the difference in both storytelling and art. It didn't help that Scarpa added Trudy to proceedings either. The 1972 story had a much stronger narrative focusing on the triangle of Mickey, Goofy and Pete.

I've seen that quoted before as an example of Scarpa's art being worse in the 80s compared to the 70s. I honestly don't remember much from the story, so I'll have to dig it out again.



But the standalone MM stories from the era are, IMO, very strong. And some of the Cavazzano-inked stuff from the 60s especially just seems too "edgy" for my taste. Case in point  : The first two Zenobia stories were printed in a German book that also contains a mid-60s Goofy story by Scarpa, and I think apart from Ubezio, that is actually the least appealing art in the book (which also contains stories by De Vita, later Cavazzano and Perina). Mickey's nose really looks odd in some panels.

[Mesterius]

Nov 11, 2020 10:52:54 GMT Spectrus said:

Oct 27, 2020 20:46:09 GMT Mesterius said:

Ahhh. I guess we differ in our viewpoint of Sandro Del Conte then (and that era of Scarpa). I much prefer Scarpa's art inked by Rodolfo Cimino and Giorgio Cavazzano, in the 60s and 70s. The art just feels more energetic and alive to me in those earlier decades. Case in point: In 1984, Scarpa did an epilogue to his 1972 epic "Pippo e i parastinchi di Olympia", which I honestly think is pretty insignificant and disappointing compared to the original. The pocketbook edition I read printed the sequel right after the original story (naturally enough), and you could really feel the difference in both storytelling and art. It didn't help that Scarpa added Trudy to proceedings either. The 1972 story had a much stronger narrative focusing on the triangle of Mickey, Goofy and Pete.

I've seen that quoted before as an example of Scarpa's art being worse in the 80s compared to the 70s. I honestly don't remember much from the story, so I'll have to dig it out again.



But the standalone MM stories from the era are, IMO, very strong. And some of the Cavazzano-inked stuff from the 60s especially just seems too "edgy" for my taste. Case in point  : The first two Zenobia stories were printed in a German book that also contains a mid-60s Goofy story by Scarpa, and I think apart from Ubezio, that is actually the least appealing art in the book (which also contains stories by De Vita, later Cavazzano and Perina). Mickey's nose really looks odd in some panels.

Interesting... which mid-60s story was that? My favorite period art-wise of everything I've seen by Scarpa is probably the late 50s to early 60s, which was also the original golden age of his long Mickey epics. While I like the late-60s art, it's perhaps not quite as fantastic as that earlier period. I do love the art in 1972's "Pippo e i parastinchi di Olympia", though, which I'm pretty sure is inked by Cavazzano.

[squeakyboots]

MyComicShop.com has copies of Volume 14 available to purchase.

www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=52202470

They should also be at comic stores now in that case.

[Rrr]

Nov 11, 2020 18:19:00 GMT Mesterius said:

Nov 11, 2020 10:52:54 GMT Spectrus said:

I've seen that quoted before as an example of Scarpa's art being worse in the 80s compared to the 70s. I honestly don't remember much from the story, so I'll have to dig it out again.



But the standalone MM stories from the era are, IMO, very strong. And some of the Cavazzano-inked stuff from the 60s especially just seems too "edgy" for my taste. Case in point  : The first two Zenobia stories were printed in a German book that also contains a mid-60s Goofy story by Scarpa, and I think apart from Ubezio, that is actually the least appealing art in the book (which also contains stories by De Vita, later Cavazzano and Perina). Mickey's nose really looks odd in some panels.

Interesting... which mid-60s story was that? My favorite period art-wise of everything I've seen by Scarpa is probably the late 50s to early 60s, which was also the original golden age of his long Mickey epics. While I like the late-60s art, it's perhaps not quite as fantastic as that earlier period. I do love the art in 1972's "Pippo e i parastinchi di Olympia", though, which I'm pretty sure is inked by Cavazzano.

inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++471-A

[Mesterius]

Nov 18, 2020 19:56:47 GMT Rrr said:

Nov 11, 2020 18:19:00 GMT Mesterius said:

Interesting... which mid-60s story was that? My favorite period art-wise of everything I've seen by Scarpa is probably the late 50s to early 60s, which was also the original golden age of his long Mickey epics. While I like the late-60s art, it's perhaps not quite as fantastic as that earlier period. I do love the art in 1972's "Pippo e i parastinchi di Olympia", though, which I'm pretty sure is inked by Cavazzano.

inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++471-A

Hmmm... I have read it, but don't remember much of it.

[Spectrus]

Nov 19, 2020 9:31:50 GMT Mesterius said:

Nov 18, 2020 19:56:47 GMT Rrr said:

inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++471-A

Hmmm... I have read it, but don't remember much of it.

Which is oddly appropriate given the story's title and content - which consists of Goofy constantly forgetting something. Not too interesting, really. Perhaps somewhat in line with some Bill Walsh stuff.

[antaeus]

Disney Masters Gift Box Sets:
For your information. I just got this information from Fantagraphics:

"The Gift Sets are no more. Only the Collector's Box
Sets going forward."

[alquackskey]

One last update: The shipping date changed, and my copy of Volume 14 arrived today!

Also, does anyone know if there have been or will be any stories featuring Gideon McDuck in these volumes?
Also, does anyone know if the Van Horn volume will feature any major Rumpus McFowl stories?

[Mesterius]

Nov 27, 2020 13:29:49 GMT alquackskey said:

Also, does anyone know if the Van Horn volume will feature any major Rumpus McFowl stories?

The Van Horn book will be chronological from the start as far as I know. So I'd guess no.

[Mesterius]

Nov 27, 2020 13:29:49 GMT alquackskey said:

Also, does anyone know if there have been or will be any stories featuring Gideon McDuck in these volumes?

I don't believe there have been any so far... but you can find Gideon's first story in the book Donald Duck: Timeless Tales 1.

[alquackskey]

Nov 27, 2020 13:44:18 GMT Mesterius said:

Nov 27, 2020 13:29:49 GMT alquackskey said:

Also, does anyone know if there have been or will be any stories featuring Gideon McDuck in these volumes?

I don't believe there have been any so far... but you can find Gideon's first story in the book Donald Duck: Timeless Tales 1.

Ah, thank you so much, that's a solid starting point!

[Mesterius]

Just curious... is anyone planning on inducksing the latest volumes? Vol. 14 recently came out, but Inducks is only up to Vol. 11. Would be great to have them all up there.

[mickeyanddonaldfan]

Asking a question about the upcoming William Van Horn volume: Will there be any stories featuring Rumpus McFowl or Woimly Filcher? Also, I'd love a Casty volume.

[Mesterius]

Dec 23, 2020 8:40:24 GMT mickeyanddonaldfan said:

Also, I'd love a Casty volume.

A Casty volume is coming, as announced here.

(By the way, a question to the site administrators: I tried finding the post I link to above by searching this thread for 'Casty', but it simply doesn't turn up. Instead, I had to find it manually. What's up with the search engine?)