Donald vs. Scrooge

[dismaldowns]

So we can all agree Scrooge's treatment of Donald can be pretty awfull. Realistically Donald would have cut ties with him long ago and/or would have taken full advantage of the countless times he helped the old miser save his fortune demanding a big reward. In Cash Flow Scrooge's ungratefulness actually gets Donald to do just that but he is too foolish to not specify the exact amount he wants instead opting for all he could grab. Of course Scrooge tricks him in the end.

So I was thinking about stories where Donald actually quits. There is one I think in which Donald starts working for Rockerduck (can anyone provide the Inducks link for that one?) and I guess many others where they fight over the unfair treatment and exploitation his uncle subjects him to. Anyone has any suggestions of similar stories?                                                                                   

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Jan 22, 2018 16:05:07 GMT dismaldowns said:

 There is one I think in which Donald starts working for Rockerduck (can anyone provide the Inducks link for that one?) and I guess many others where they fight over the unfair treatment and exploitation his uncle subjects him to.

This one.
And I think this story also marks the first time Rockerduck appeared in American comics since Barks' only story with him, although I see he was used in a few S-coded stories before that (which were not published in the US). Can anyone confirm that? Also, O'Hara makes a non-speaking cameo in this story.

This story is also interesting in that it features multiple Beagle relatives (including "great-great-grandpappy Beagle Number One"; Blackheart's father?) but is not written by Vic Lockman. Supposedly. (Sure reads like a Lockman story, though. Are we sure INDUCKS is right about the authorship on this one?)

[Ramapith]

I'm sure. The story feels a bit Lockman-y, but the dialogue doesn't have any of his 1970s tics (most notably, everyone behaving like nervous, fussy little kids; has anyone read an issue of Lockman's WINNIE THE POOH lately?)

[The KKM]

Took the liberty to edit the thread title to be clearer in its intent, as "name x name" in the current internet for our younger users will likely read as something else.

[Hector]

I'm pretty sure that, with the exception of some stories written by twisted
creators (cough... Martina...cough), Scrooge and Donald always have each
other's back. How do you think Donald has managed to support the nephews so
far, even during the periods he did not have a job?

[dismaldowns]

Jan 22, 2018 16:20:36 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

Jan 22, 2018 16:05:07 GMT dismaldowns said:

 There is one I think in which Donald starts working for Rockerduck (can anyone provide the Inducks link for that one?) and I guess many others where they fight over the unfair treatment and exploitation his uncle subjects him to.

This one.
And I think this story also marks the first time Rockerduck appeared in American comics since Barks' only story with him, although I see he was used in a few S-coded stories before that (which were not published in the US). Can anyone confirm that? Also, O'Hara makes a non-speaking cameo in this story.

This story is also interesting in that it features multiple Beagle relatives (including "great-great-grandpappy Beagle Number One"; Blackheart's father?) but is not written by Vic Lockman. Supposedly. (Sure reads like a Lockman story, though. Are we sure INDUCKS is right about the authorship on this one?)

Thank you!

I saw somewhere a panel with Donald and Rockerduck shaking hands clearly signaling to a common goal of them trumping Scrooge together. Actually the memory is so fuzzy I can't say 100% sure if that was Rockerduck or Glomgold. But almost certainly it's Rockerduck. Makes no sense being Glomgold unless it's one of those stories where Flinty lives in Duckburg and is just a rival, not a murderous bastard. I'm positive it's not Kay Wright the artist though. I guess Donald partnering with Rockerduck is something that popped up in the mind of several creators.

[dismaldowns]

Jan 23, 2018 16:08:16 GMT Hector said:

I'm pretty sure that, with the exception of some stories written by twisted
creators (cough... Martina...cough), Scrooge and Donald always have each
other's back. How do you think Donald has managed to support the nephews so
far, even during the periods he did not have a job?

Donald always has a different job but except when it's clearly stated that he is unemployed he is always trying to make ends meet for his nephews.

Maybe Scrooge supporting the nephews financially is a reality in some stories but from what I can recall it's never stated. It doesn't fit Scrooge's character even in his most sympathetic portrayals.

[Spectrus]

There have been some recent Italian stories where Donald was working for Rockerduck too - in one he shows quite some talent (throwing Jubal Pomp out before he even had a chance to cause any mayhem!), in the other Donald says he wants to "change uncles" and Rockerduck thinks he can profit from that relationship...

[Lieju]

Jan 24, 2018 22:45:00 GMT dismaldowns said:

Jan 22, 2018 16:20:36 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

This one.
And I think this story also marks the first time Rockerduck appeared in American comics since Barks' only story with him, although I see he was used in a few S-coded stories before that (which were not published in the US). Can anyone confirm that? Also, O'Hara makes a non-speaking cameo in this story.

This story is also interesting in that it features multiple Beagle relatives (including "great-great-grandpappy Beagle Number One"; Blackheart's father?) but is not written by Vic Lockman. Supposedly. (Sure reads like a Lockman story, though. Are we sure INDUCKS is right about the authorship on this one?)

Thank you!

I saw somewhere a panel with Donald and Rockerduck shaking hands clearly signaling to a common goal of them trumping Scrooge together. Actually the memory is so fuzzy I can't say 100% sure if that was Rockerduck or Glomgold. But almost certainly it's Rockerduck. Makes no sense being Glomgold unless it's one of those stories where Flinty lives in Duckburg and is just a rival, not a murderous bastard. I'm positive it's not Kay Wright the artist though. I guess Donald partnering with Rockerduck is something that popped up in the mind of several creators.

You might be thinking of this story.
inducks.org/s.php?c=D+2008-133

Also there are bunch of stories where Donald works for Rockerduck. This is the only one I know of where he works for Flinty, tho he tempts him in one of those formula stories.

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Feb 19, 2018 19:03:33 GMT Lieju said:

You might be thinking of this story.
inducks.org/s.php?c=D+2008-133
Also there are bunch of stories where Donald works for Rockerduck. This is the only one I know of where he works for Flinty, tho he tempts him in one of those formula stories.

Wow, I never thought Donald capable of such betrayal.
Does Glomgold live in Duckburg in this story?
Donald also works for Glomgold in the DuckTales '17 pilot ... in case we're also counting instances of that relationship.

[Lieju]

Feb 19, 2018 19:17:50 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

Feb 19, 2018 19:03:33 GMT Lieju said:

You might be thinking of this story.
inducks.org/s.php?c=D+2008-133
Also there are bunch of stories where Donald works for Rockerduck. This is the only one I know of where he works for Flinty, tho he tempts him in one of those formula stories.

Wow, I never thought Donald capable of such betrayal.
Does Glomgold live in Duckburg in this story?
Donald also works for Glomgold in the DuckTales '17 pilot ... in case we're also counting instances of that relationship.

Scrooge is just terribly horrible to Donald in that story, overworking him for little pay. Donald decides to write a book about all the horrible stuff Scrooge has done and goes to Glomgold so he can get it published. So it's all initiated by Donald. I think lot of the Glomgold stories were just super vague about where he lived (especially in the 80's), but he sure did hang out in Duckburg a lot. It's the same here, he seems to be in Duckburg but he visits it often anyway even in stories that specifically note he lives in South Africa.
As for his level of villainy in this story, he isn't doing anything evil.
And Scrooge deserves everything coming to him tbh... The way it resolves is the book is published and people read it... And find all the abuse Scrooge puts Donald through funny I guess? Scrooge freaks out at first but later realizes it's fine people learn the truth since it doesn't harm him anyway.

[RobbK1]

Feb 19, 2018 19:17:50 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

Feb 19, 2018 19:03:33 GMT Lieju said:

You might be thinking of this story.
inducks.org/s.php?c=D+2008-133
Also there are bunch of stories where Donald works for Rockerduck. This is the only one I know of where he works for Flinty, tho he tempts him in one of those formula stories.

Wow, I never thought Donald capable of such betrayal.
Does Glomgold live in Duckburg in this story?
Donald also works for Glomgold in the DuckTales '17 pilot ... in case we're also counting instances of that relationship.

The mega-rich have houses in cities and countries all over The World.  You can bet that among the Top 10 richest people in The World, several of them own houses in London, New York, Los Angeles, Tokyo, Singapore, etc.  I've always assumed, after "The Money Champ" - 2nd Barks story with Glomgold, that Glomgold bought or built a residence in Duckburg, and established offices there, to keep an eye on Scrooge's activities, and compete for a share of the lucrative Calisota market.  I assume that Scrooge probably has offices in Johannesburg, and sleeps there, rather than paying for a luxurious house where he only spends a small portion of each year.  So, it is no problem for me, when other creators show Glomgold residing in a residence in The Duckburg Metro Area.  I assume he doesn't stay there all year.  It also doesn't conflict with my enjoying Dutch stories which have Duckburg located within The Netherlands, because Scrooge and Glomgold will also have houses and offices in USA, London, South Africa, and other major markets around The World.

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Feb 19, 2018 19:33:12 GMT Lieju said:

And Scrooge deserves everything coming to him tbh... The way it resolves is the book is published and people read it... And find all the abuse Scrooge puts Donald through funny I guess? Scrooge freaks out at first but later realizes it's fine people learn the truth since it doesn't harm him anyway.

True, Scrooge never struck me as someone who cares a great deal about his public image ... for the most part he'd be perfectly happy to have the world think he's a stingy, heartless, misanthropic curmudgeon.  In fact it's a reputation he almost cultivates; he goes out of his way not to show any softheartedness or overt signs of compassion (perhaps to avoid being deluged by panhandlers, salesmen and activists representing dubious causes). So a tell-all book wouldn't necessarily strike me as the best way to put fear in his heart.

[Lieju]

Feb 19, 2018 20:41:47 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

Feb 19, 2018 19:33:12 GMT Lieju said:

And Scrooge deserves everything coming to him tbh... The way it resolves is the book is published and people read it... And find all the abuse Scrooge puts Donald through funny I guess? Scrooge freaks out at first but later realizes it's fine people learn the truth since it doesn't harm him anyway.

True, Scrooge never struck me as someone who cares a great deal about his public image ... for the most part he'd be perfectly happy to have the world think he's a stingy, heartless, misanthropic curmudgeon.  In fact it's a reputation he almost cultivates; he goes out of his way not to show any softheartedness or overt signs of compassion (perhaps to avoid being deluged by panhandlers, salesmen and activists representing dubious causes). So a tell-all book wouldn't necessarily strike me as the best way to put fear in his heart.

Being stingy especially yeah. I think in that story the thing was he had no idea what Donald was about to reveal about him at first? And he was pretty cruel in that story to Donald and if there are any labor laws in Duckburg certainly breaking them...
You could certainly shake him with different kind of revelations.
Donald: "I once saw my uncle throw away a tea bag after ONLY using it twice"
Scrooge: "Lies! slander! I'm as stingy as they come!!"

[Baar Baar Jinx]

When IDW prints this story, I want to see Donald title his book "Feathers and Fury: Inside the McDuck Board Room".