For me, the Ducks, Mice and many other Disney toons, live in the same universe, as is implied by NewDuckTales.
"Mouseville" is apocryphic to me, but Mickey's home was still a rural town called "Silo Centre" in the 1920s, but then it started to grow fast and became a large city, so the name was changed to the more appropriate "Mouseton".
I find it sort of sad that we live in a world where there is fear of legal disputes over a name as simple as "Mouseville". I understand the value to copyrights and that intellectual property should be protected, but a name I don't feel like a word, not the entire setting and characters wrapped around the setting but a word, like Mouseville should not be grounds for a legal battle in my opinion, though I'm obviously not an expert on the topic.
In my view, copyright is an outdated social construct that was created by imperialist-colonialist slaveholders to keep the means of culture and education artificially out of reach of the general population.
For me, the Ducks, Mice and many other Disney toons, live in the same universe, as is implied by NewDuckTales.
"Mouseville" is apocryphic to me, but Mickey's home was still a rural town called "Silo Centre" in the 1920s, but then it started to grow fast and became a large city, so the name was changed to the more appropriate "Mouseton".
I think Silo Center originated in the 1930's (1931 to be more specific) with Fireman Mickey, where Silo Center is implied to be the name of the city Pop Weezil works for and, presumably, the city in which Horace Horsecollar and Clarabelle Cow live, since it is implied they are in Pop's jurisdiction and would be married by him.
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Rosa's full comment on the Mouseton matter is interesting ...
About Mouseton -- that's just what I'd expected! I had never heard the name until Disney Comics used it, and in light of everything they did to poor Mickey, from super-villain penguins to the Phantom Blot's niece wearing a Blot suit and being named "Blottie",
I am most curious about this. “Blottie”? The Phantom Blot's daughter from A Phantom Blot Bedtime Story (which is quite a good story, thank you very much, Don!…) is usually known by the fan nickname “the Phantom Brat”, and is not named in the story itself. I wonder where “Bottie” came from.
I've never read that Phantom Blot bedtime story, but in general I hate it when writers try to make him look as if he's somehow connected with the cloak or not even a human being (several Egmont stories played with this notion, thereby disrespecting Gottfredson's origin story). Having a daughter that wears a suit like him just seems odd to me.
It does seem that those Disney Comics with Mickey were a precursor to the Egmont horrors (often also by Michael T. Gilbert, whose writing I hate with a passion) which often completely distorted his character, and the stories were childish nonsense. This wasn't always the case with the 4-tiered stories but the 3-tiered ones... goodness! Just no.
I am most curious about this. “Blottie”? The Phantom Blot's daughter from A Phantom Blot Bedtime Story (which is quite a good story, thank you very much, Don!…) is usually known by the fan nickname “the Phantom Brat”, and is not named in the story itself. I wonder where “Bottie” came from.
I think Rosa was either unfamiliar with the story or was being purposely disdainful ... he also refers to the Blot's daughter as his niece.
"Blottie" (or rather, "Blotty") was the name the Beagle Boys, posing as the Blot's aunts in the Gladstone edit of that money tree story called him (the original had the Beagle Boys posing as his mother in triplicate and calling him "son") ... perhaps that's what Rosa was remembering? It had just been republished by Gladstone when Rosa wrote that DCML post.
I've never read that Phantom Blot bedtime story, but in general I hate it when writers try to make him look as if he's somehow connected with the cloak or not even a human being (several Egmont stories played with this notion, thereby disrespecting Gottfredson's origin story).
Phantom Blot Bedtime Story is actually innocent of that sin: it is clear that the Blot's daughter wears the cloak because she idolizes her dad and wants to be like him in any way she can, but it is very clear that it is just a costume. (In fact, she puts similar costumes on her dolls.)
What Egmont stories do you have in mind that explicitly lean into the interpretation of an inhuman Blot, though? I've only ever known of that notion is "a fan misinterpretation arising from the habit of putting a mouth on the hood and of the Blot wearing his Blot mask beneath disguises", not as anything ever actually supported by real stories.
"Mouseville" is apocryphic to me, but Mickey's home was still a rural town called "Silo Centre" in the 1920s, but then it started to grow fast and became a large city, so the name was changed to the more appropriate "Mouseton".
Why would "Silo Center" not work as the name of a large city?
Post by Dr Ivo G Bombastus on Oct 1, 2019 17:13:32 GMT
I greatly prefer Mouseville to Mouseton.
If I had to pick a different official name for Mickey's home town though I'd probably go with "Home Town", which seems to have been the name that was used the most in Gottfredson's stories.
I'd like to think that Mickey and his friends had their start in one place (Mouseville? Silo Center?), but moved to Calisota/Burbank/Mouseton when their fortunes started picking up, so that Mickey and Donald don't live too far from one another. Mirroring Walt Disney's journey from Kansas City to New York/California, as it were.
So where did Mickey grow up? Mouseline, Moussouri. Of course.
I'd like to think that Mickey and his friends had their start in one place (Mouseville? Silo Center?), but moved to Calisota/Burbank/Mouseton when their fortunes started picking up, so that Mickey and Donald don't live too far from one another.
All of them? Mickey, Minnie, Goofy, Clarabelle, Horace, Pete, the whole Mouseville PD? It strains credulity.
So where did Mickey grow up? Mouseline, Moussouri. Of course.
You wouldn't happen to be Sam Whiteside, Jr, of Savannah, GA, would you?
"Mouseville" is apocryphic to me, but Mickey's home was still a rural town called "Silo Centre" in the 1920s, but then it started to grow fast and became a large city, so the name was changed to the more appropriate "Mouseton".
Why would "Silo Center" not work as the name of a large city?
It wouldn't be a good name, because silos are only used for farmers to store grain and corn. That implies that the place is in the middle of a rural farming area, which contains several grain silos, centrally located from their nearby surrounding farms. It implies being about as far away from big cities as one can get today, other than being in mountainous forest preserves. I know that Duesseldorf is now the name of a big city (and Dorf in German means "village" in English).
But, in real life, 95% or more of villages, or rural road crossings, or railroad whistle stops that grow to become large cities, have their names changed along the way (usually before they officially become chartered cities or towns. Moreover, it is more important (traditional) for comic book stories to make the names of their characters and geographical places match what the characters are and how they act, and match what the geographic places are like, as that helps little kids understand the stories better, and helps accentuate the parodies being made, and making fun of people, and what they do.
If I had to pick a different official name for Mickey's home town though I'd probably go with "Home Town", which seems to have been the name that was used the most in Gottfredson's stories.
Do you happen to know how many times each name was used in Gottfredson's work? I'd be curious to see both when and how often the various names were used. Then again, maybe we should open another thread for that purpose.
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If I had to pick a different official name for Mickey's home town though I'd probably go with "Home Town", which seems to have been the name that was used the most in Gottfredson's stories.
Do you happen to know how many times each name was used in Gottfredson's work? I'd be curious to see both when and how often the various names were used. Then again, maybe we should open another thread for that purpose.
I'm fairly positive Silo Center and Mouseville were each used once, the latter in the Phantom Blot story.
Home Town was used more than once. I have to check to remember which stories it appeared in though.
Do you happen to know how many times each name was used in Gottfredson's work? I'd be curious to see both when and how often the various names were used. Then again, maybe we should open another thread for that purpose.
I'm fairly positive Silo Center and Mouseville were each used once, the latter in the Phantom Blot story.
Home Town was used more than once. I have to check to remember which stories it appeared in though.
Mouseville was used twice, also in the "Mysterious Dr. X" storyline (see drakeborough's post on this thread from September 23). I think Home Town was only used once, but in any case, it's far too generic to be taken seriously; it's almost as if Gottfredson was trolling us.
Do you happen to know how many times each name was used in Gottfredson's work? I'd be curious to see both when and how often the various names were used. Then again, maybe we should open another thread for that purpose.
I'm fairly positive Silo Center and Mouseville were each used once, the latter in the Phantom Blot story.
Home Town was used more than once. I have to check to remember which stories it appeared in though.
Adding on this, Silo Center's apparently only use was in Fireman Mickey. In that story, Pop Weezil is seen running a trolley with that has "Silo Center Special" written on the side. The implication is that Pop is an employee of the local town, serving as the station agent, motorman, postmaster, constable, fire chief, and justice of the peace. His fire station is shown to be just down the road from Clarabelle Cow's house, making it likely that the town he works for is the town Clarabelle lives in. If he works for Silo Center, then Clarabelle, and presumably the rest of the gang as well, live in Silo Center.
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