Ah, I see. Well, that seems like quite the well-rounded theory! Not quite sure about “Diana Duck” as a name, though it has a nice ring to it. What with Daisy and Rosa, I think I'd like for the third sister to also have a flower-related name; thus, like AMJ's month-based names, such "name triads" would be reimagined as a family tradition.
Initially I actually wanted to call it Rosa because the ancestor she looks like is called Rosarossa (RedRose), but the obscure quote was too tempting for my nerd soul.
Yup, I'll go with Mabel looking older than she is because she's totally exhausted.
I was aware of the timeline issue BBJ raises, but thought we could fudge it believably. I'm the youngest in my family, and my parents were 38 when I was born. Oldest sibling is 15 years older than I. If Daisy's mother was 38 when she was born, then the mother would have been born around 1882, and could be 21 in the Invader scene. Anyway, we know that in general Rosa's timeline has his Ducks give birth at later ages than was typical for humans of the time.
Another option, if we really want to tie this couple to Daisy, is to have them be Daisy's grandparents. Perhaps Daisy's future father/mother is sleeping in the back of the wagon during this scene?
I have now read the Inca potato story both in the original Dutch (thanks, anonnewbie!) and in German translation. In the story, Daisy is given a box of stuff as an inheritance from a female relative who died twenty years earlier. This woman is depicted in a photograph as looking much like Daisy. She was adventurous and traveled a great deal, and was always interested in people of different cultures, how they lived, what they ate, etc. She made friends with the descendants of the Inca in Peru, and the things she leaves Daisy (specifying a 20-year interval after her death, to allow Daisy to grow up) have to do with that particular group of people. There is no mention of her having a husband or any family. However, in the original Dutch, Daisy says she was her great-grandmother, so she must have had family. Her name is Victoria Duck. In the German translation, though, Daisy says she was her great-great-aunt. Her name in the German is Dolinda Duck, which I prefer for sound and for association--I don't like the association I have with "Victoria" in this context.
I can't figure out how to see/read the family tree xanderares posted earlier on this thread, so I don't know whether this character made it on. But you have the choice to make her a direct ancestor, as is apparently the authors' intention, or to think of her as one of those lateral, avuncular ancestors sometimes found in Duck comics--see Geradts' Ringtail van Dukke.
On the question of colonialism, by the way, this story from 2000 is pretty good. The Indians have a role in saving the day, and the bug-resistant potato which will solve the potato shortage in Duckburg and around the world is developed by the Indians in collaboration with the foreign professor--and the Indians will share in the profits from its sale. At one point the German translation improves over the Dutch on the issue of attitudes towards Indians. "White" people masquerading as Indians have tied Daisy and AMJ to a stake and are dancing around it and Woo-wooing. In the Dutch, Daisy says, "Indians from South-America don't do this, do they?"--implying that North American Indians do behave in this Hollywood-Injun style. In the German, Daisy says, "I thought this only happened in Karl May"--May being a German author of many popular books including Westerns, and implying that only fictional Indians behaved this way.
The other day I made a thread about a big family tree I've done. This is the Daisy (and Gyro) section:
I've included Victoria/Dolinda too. Would you be able to post an image of her, Matilda?
Anyways, these are all the Daisy relatives I know of. The aunts, uncles, and cousins are pretty arbitrarily placed though. If you notice an error, please tell me!
The other day I made a thread about a big family tree I've done. This is the Daisy (and Gyro) section:
I've included Victoria/Dolinda too. Would you be able to post an image of her, Matilda?
Anyways, these are all the Daisy relatives I know of. The aunts, uncles, and cousins are pretty arbitrarily placed though. If you notice an error, please tell me!
This looks so cool, awsome work. by the way, can i have a copy of this tree?
Lieutenant General Fredrik The Global Network Community The Junior Woodchucks - rank of major( a roleplay liveaction group ) --------------------------------------- Need information about the Duck family tree? check this out: goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/ducktrees/myducktree.pdf
Lieutenant General Fredrik The Global Network Community The Junior Woodchucks - rank of major( a roleplay liveaction group ) --------------------------------------- Need information about the Duck family tree? check this out: goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/ducktrees/myducktree.pdf
LP: I will post an image of Dolinda if I can... that's something I only do about once every two years, so every time I do it I have to relearn how. The Dutch version has been published digitally, BTW. Dolinda is Daisy with some hair added--a short blond flip.
I'm unfamiliar with almost half of these. Does anyone know anything about Lena and Begonia Duckfield's unnamed offspring, Nehemia Duckfield and his family, Griselda and her offspring, Reldelbert Duck, Bep Duck, 'Oma' Duck, Grootpappie Duckfield, and Dorrius Duck?
And is there a reason that Daisy's parents and triplet brothers are all listed twice as different characters? (Cactée Duckfield, Sullus Duck, Kwil, Kwel, Kwal Duck)
I think Oma Duck is from that origin story of Daisy's diary, where she gets her first diary from her grandmother. Someone linked to it earlier on this thread, I believe.
I'm unfamiliar with almost half of these. Does anyone know anything about Lena and Begonia Duckfield's unnamed offspring, Nehemia Duckfield and his family, Griselda and her offspring, Reldelbert Duck, Bep Duck, 'Oma' Duck, Grootpappie Duckfield, and Dorrius Duck?
And is there a reason that Daisy's parents and triplet brothers are all listed twice as different characters? (Cactée Duckfield, Sullus Duck, Kwil, Kwel, Kwal Duck)
- Nehemia, Ma and Ellie May Duckfield are from inducks.org/story.php?c=D+2001-168 (I mentioned it in the other thread). I presume that’s where grandpappy Duckfield is mentioned, too. - Matilda is right about Daisy’s grandmother—she is from that Freddy Milton story I linked to in the “ultimate family tree” thread. Looks like Lena is already on your tree as “Berthe”. Lena probably is her name in the original Dutch. - Reldelbert is the Dutch name for Aldelbert Duck (you’ve already included him on your tree)
The rest I don’t know. Those three cousins on the left of the tree all look like they’re from the same story, probably drawn by Tony Strobl. Cactee, Sullus, Kwil Kwel and Kwal allegedly appear/are mentioned in H 89122 (per Gilles Maurice’s “missing” list), but I can’t verify.
I'm unfamiliar with almost half of these. Does anyone know anything about Lena and Begonia Duckfield's unnamed offspring, Nehemia Duckfield and his family, Griselda and her offspring, Reldelbert Duck, Bep Duck, 'Oma' Duck, Grootpappie Duckfield, and Dorrius Duck?
And is there a reason that Daisy's parents and triplet brothers are all listed twice as different characters? (Cactée Duckfield, Sullus Duck, Kwil, Kwel, Kwal Duck)
Late to the game, I know, but I believe that Griselda is from Erika Fuchs's translation of Carl Barks's Big-Top Bedlam. She is, in Fuchs's localization, Daisy's grandaunt and the original owner of Daisy's heirloom brooch. Source: scrooge-mcduck.fandom.com/wiki/Big-Top_Bedlam
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