Post by Baar Baar Jinx on Feb 11, 2019 0:57:38 GMT
Since Valentine's Day is next week, I'm going to argue that this thread is topical, although it perhaps works best if you believe (as I do) that all characters in the Duckverse are humans that look like various animals because of the lens through which we view them (making pairings between ducks, dognoses, pigs, et al. reasonable), but here goes ...
How attractive are the Duck characters supposed to be in-universe? For example, is Donald considered a handsome man? In Barks' "The Golden Christmas Tree", he wishes to be handsome, and ends up looking a lot like Gladstone (and I get the impression that Gladstone is supposed to be the better-looking of the two cousins even otherwise), but Donald still does seem to attract a lot of female attention, for example in "The Hall of the Mermaid Queen". Often, though, women seem to only flock to him if he's enjoying some ephemeral glory as a result of brittle mastery over some skill, so it can't be adduced as indicative of his attractiveness. On the women's side, several characters have complimented Daisy on her looks, and Magica's very origins are based on her being a youthful, sexy villain (although that aspect seems to have been lost over the years).
I'd say Donald is an everyman also in looks--not particularly handsome. I think of Daisy also as being of average good looks--pretty enough, but not going to win any beauty contests. There have been stories where she's been in beauty contests, right? I don't remember any of them, partly because I'm rather opposed to beauty contests in general.
I believe both Daisy and Donald have been compared at times to duck-people who are considered far more attractive, and who are drawn in some way as to suggest the movie stars of the time.
Gladstone is supposed to be more handsome than Donald, although his hair and hat and all belong to a masculine ideal of a bygone era. He looks rather foppish nowadays.
Yes, Magica is sexy! As Barks said, that's why he made her Italian!
Post by Baar Baar Jinx on Feb 11, 2019 3:18:41 GMT
Daisy has won several beauty contests, including in Barks stories, so it's safe to say she's above-average in the looks department. There was a Barks ten-pager where Donald wears a disguise to look like Magica, and says he feels insulted when HD&L remark on his resemblance to the sorceress. I thought this was strange when Magica was not supposed to be ugly, unless of course Donald simply didn't want to be told he looks like a woman, even an alluring one.
"ALL" the women who chase him? You mean, in addition to Brigitta the Stalker? I believe I have been spared these stories in which various women are chasing Scrooge. Thankfully. Or I have wiped them from my mind.
Anyway, Brigitta aside, is there any evidence that said women are attracted to him due to his physical appearance, as distinct from his net worth?
"ALL" the women who chase him? You mean, in addition to Brigitta the Stalker?
Really, Brigitta alone would qualify $crooge's hunk status; even on the rare occasion where Donald or Gladstone or Gyro or whoever can get girls to chase them, none of those girls are quite as passionate as Brigitta.
Anyway, Brigitta aside, is there any evidence that said women are attracted to him due to his physical appearance, as distinct from his net worth?
It varies from lady to lady. My favorite case is Fiona Rapson, who set out to interview Magica and Brigitta and other women in $crooge's life, only to end up falling hard for him herself.
OK, I've looked through *some* of the characters listed on that page. A bunch are from Scrooge's youth, and it's not clear whether they all were attracted to him; some of them were objects of his attraction and that's all we know. Or objects of another man's attraction (Tess Gander). But I can believe that women found Scrooge physically attractive in his early years, not so much in the present. It doesn't look like Annie Klondike or Glenda Goose were actually romantically involved with Scrooge at all, or am I reading it wrong? Maybe there's some hint of romance elsewhere in the Annie story. Minny Pearl was clearly not attracted to Scrooge; she was in love with another guy. By the way, I believe that "Linda Dora" from the whiskers story is actually supposed to be Goldie. Note the little tiara thingy she wears. Also, INDUCKS thinks she is Goldie. It wouldn't be the first time a translator didn't realize who this character was! See the German Goldrausch LTB, where Goldie appears in three different stories with three different names!
I don't think Brigitta's obsession proves Scrooge's hunk status. I think it only proves her obsessive character. It's not clear to me that she has *any* reason for being in love with Scrooge, apart from her own groundless fantasy.
More reading (past my bedtime! I must stop!): Paperuccia Anatroni never really loved Scrooge. Amely Witch/Magica is just after his dime. Granny DeSpell is only in love with him due to a misfired arrow.
More reading (past my bedtime! I must stop!): Paperuccia Anatroni never really loved Scrooge. Amely Witch/Magica is just after his dime. Granny DeSpell is only in love with him due to a misfired arrow.
It is true that many of the loves on that page are more interested in money. The only ones of some interest are Goldie, Brigitta, Belle, Molly who have appeared in several stories and representing the various stages of Scrooge's life:
Mississippi - Belle
Dawson - Goldie
Whitehorse - Brigitta
Duckburg - Molly
Of course there are others interesting, but if they are not developed into new stories there is not much to say.
If we talk about attractive ducks I think the palm tree goes to Mary Jane Ghigno's childhood friend of Donald and now model.
Post by Baar Baar Jinx on Feb 11, 2019 14:07:15 GMT
Van Horn Sr. created a Brigitta-like character that he only ever used once (thus does not have an INDUCKs entry)... I'm not sure why he didn't just use Brigitta, since Voracia Duckworst basically *is* Brigitta (it's impossible that Van Horn had not known about Brigitta by this point).
Speaking of Magica and Goldie, I'm reminded of the Branca story where Magica transforms into a Marilyn Monroe-type actress named Maggie Le Trick and impetrates the role of young Goldie in a proposed movie about Scrooge's Klondike days. She's clearly very attractive, going by the reactions of the men involved in casting, young and old, duck and dognose alike:
What I've wondered since I first read this story is whether this a reflection of Magica's inherent beauty, young Goldie's pulchritude (I'm not sure how Magica could know exactly what young Goldie looked like), or just the physical attractiveness of the assumed persona of Maggie Le Trick?
Van Horn Sr. created a Brigitta-like character that he only ever used once (thus does not have an INDUCKs entry)... I'm not sure why he didn't just use Brigitta, since Voracia Duckworst basically *is* Brigitta (it's impossible that Van Horn had not known about Brigitta by this point).
Because if Brigitta fall in love with Rumpus so easily the fans would not accept it, and then he seemed to want a uglier duck.
Speaking of Magica and Goldie, I'm reminded of the Branca story where Magica transforms into a Marilyn Monroe-type actress named Maggie Le Trick and impetrates the role of young Goldie in a proposed movie about Scrooge's Klondike days. She's clearly very attractive, going by the reactions of the men involved in casting, young and old, duck and dognose alike:
What I've wondered since I first read this story is whether this a reflection of Magica's inherent beauty, young Goldie's pulchritude (I'm not sure how Magica could know exactly what young Goldie looked like), or just the physical attractiveness of the assumed persona of Maggie Le Trick?
Even in "Amelia e il ventaglio della bellezza" (I TL 1879-C) Magica turns into a similar to Marilyn, but in the story we can find out more about what she considers beautiful. First she says that she is beautiful but too dark, and then she loses herself in her own reflection because she is too beautiful.