I don't want to sound like an old codger, but... it looks like this movie is about to make the same mistakes as "Space Jam: A New Legacy" did. Looks like sheer nostalgia bait, but with that "ironic" tint they always give it nowadays. (Just because you're doing something "ironically" doesn't mean you're not doing it, and does not make you immune to criticism.)
I think you are right on with this assessment, but I am still hopeful that it will be funny enough to justify itself. I really like The Lonely Island guys so color me cautiously optimistic. But yeah, Space Jam 2 was the pits.
I can't find any info on the animation studio behind it. Mandeville Films have never done any 2D animation before, and Disney doesn't have a 2D division either, as far as I know. But then, I can't find anything on Disenchanted either.
The animation studio behind it is MPC Montreal. It's mostly 3D animation rendered to 2D, but there's also real 2D animation in it. Pre production started before covid hit, and Akiva Schaffer is still shifting things around in the story.
Disney does have a 2D animation unit, but it's small and works under the Disney Television Animation brand. They usually do small scenes, retakes, or promos for the animated television shows. There are also still a handful of 2D animators employed in the feature animation division, but their work is intended as a guide for the 3D animators.
I can't find any info on the animation studio behind it. Mandeville Films have never done any 2D animation before, and Disney doesn't have a 2D division either, as far as I know. But then, I can't find anything on Disenchanted either.
The animation studio behind it is MPC Montreal. It's mostly 3D animation rendered to 2D, but there's also real 2D animation in it. Pre production started before covid hit, and Akiva Schaffer is still shifting things around in the story.
Disney does have a 2D animation unit, but it's small and works under the Disney Television Animation brand. They usually do small scenes, retakes, or promos for the animated television shows. There are also still a handful of 2D animators employed in the feature animation division, but their work is intended as a guide for the 3D animators.
Ah, so they continue to employ some 2D animators in the studio aside from Eric Goldberg. I was wondering if that was still going on. I don't feel that the animation in the latest Disney theatrical features have had as much of a "hand-drawn" quality to it as it did in earlier CG films like Tangled, Wreck-It-Ralph, Zootopia etc. But maybe I just feel that way because I haven't liked the later films as much.
Watching the credits of recent features pretty much answered my own question. Their 2D department is solely for the animated features (I think it was run by Mark Henn earlier in the decade?), but live-action movie with animated credits or sequences haven't been done by Disney since before Enchanted. Mary Poppins Returns was outsourced as well.
Post by donaldistducktoons on Jun 15, 2022 0:25:58 GMT
To be honest, the Rescue Rangers movie was more like a rip-off Roger Rabbit and Space Jam 2, and it was just attracting more and more characters from various franchises into one movie as cameo characters. Definitely all marketing. Given that the creators and actors were from Lonely Island, then I’m not surprised by such things and the ironic jokes and meta-humor they brought into that film. Honestly, the relationship between Chip and Dale was ok, but more needed to be said about why they are Rescue Rangers, and not just off-stage. Although I always thought that Chip and Dale were brothers, so getting to know them as well as throwing out their history before Rescue Rangers was very strange to me. Ellie Steckler was supposed to have more of a role, as Eddie Valliant had in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Gadget married to Zipper, not worth commenting on. The worst was the villain, Sweet Pete, or fat Peter Pan and this is a great insult to the late Bobby Driscoll who originally played Peter Pan, and later when he grew up suffered from alcoholism and died young, so a parody of something like that was me disgusting. The animation was good to a certain extent, although it seemed that many did not like it, although a quality 2D animation can be made. It turned out best in the end, when Darkwing Duck appeared as a cameo character. www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVSIYZv2T8g
After all, I think that this film was bad, but with good moments, but I respect the fans who liked such that movie. But it certainly turned out to be worse compared to Space Jam 2. Honestly, Who Framed Roger Rabbit and Looney Tunes: Back in Action turned out best if we talk about a mix of live-action movies with animated characters. Certainly, this is my opinion and my impressions.
Post by donaldistducktoons on Jun 16, 2022 10:41:45 GMT
After all, those who made this movie, talk about how much they respect originality, and it was more at certain moments that there were attacks on Rescue Rangers fans, which is really bad. In fact, they didn't even care about the real Rescue Rangers.
Watching the credits of recent features pretty much answered my own question. Their 2D department is solely for the animated features (I think it was run by Mark Henn earlier in the decade?), but live-action movie with animated credits or sequences haven't been done by Disney since before Enchanted. Mary Poppins Returns was outsourced as well.
Eric Goldberg was by no means involved, nobody at The Walt Disney Studios was. All the animation was done by MPC in Montreal, and the animators (2D and 3D) are from there as well, although working from home).
The Walt Disney Company itself still employs a handful of 2D animators, among them Eric Goldberg and Mark Henn.
That Duckfan wrote: Mary Poppins Returns was outsourced as well.
Yeah, it was. But at least it was animated by a staff that actually worked for Disney one time or another. The studio in charge was Duncan Studio, and Ken Duncan is in charge. Ken was the animator for Megara (Hercules), Jafar (Aladdin), Belle (Beauty and the Beast), and many others. He employed a bunch of 2D animators, most of them formerly Disney, and insisted on it being animated on paper. That's as close to Disney as we're going to get when it comes to 2D.
Watching the credits of recent features pretty much answered my own question. Their 2D department is solely for the animated features (I think it was run by Mark Henn earlier in the decade?), but live-action movie with animated credits or sequences haven't been done by Disney since before Enchanted. Mary Poppins Returns was outsourced as well.
Eric Goldberg was by no means involved, nobody at The Walt Disney Studios was. All the animation was done by MPC in Montreal, and the animators (2D and 3D) are from there as well, although working from home).
The Walt Disney Company itself still employs a handful of 2D animators, among them Eric Goldberg and Mark Henn.
That Duckfan wrote: Mary Poppins Returns was outsourced as well.
Yeah, it was. But at least it was animated by a staff that actually worked for Disney one time or another. The studio in charge was Duncan Studio, and Ken Duncan is in charge. Ken was the animator for Megara (Hercules), Jafar (Aladdin), Belle (Beauty and the Beast), and many others. He employed a bunch of 2D animators, most of them formerly Disney, and insisted on it being animated on paper. That's as close to Disney as we're going to get when it comes to 2D.
No, that's right: the last hybrid/animation movie made entirely in-house was Pete's Dragon. I'm not entirely sure if the level of collaboration with Spielberg and Richard Williams' studio for Who Framed Roger Rabbit can be said to constitute a 'pure' Disney product, and they purchased Dream Quest Images in the run-up to creating Dinosaur.
My reference to Goldberg and Henn was specifically to the fully animated features, which feature a limited amount of 2D animation. For instance, Goldberg is credited for Maui's tattoos in Moana.
My reference to Goldberg and Henn was specifically to the fully animated features, which feature a limited amount of 2D animation. For instance, Goldberg is credited for Maui's tattoos in Moana.
What ends up on screen is indeed very limited, but The Walt Disney Studios still count on their handful of 2D animators to animate certain scenes, so that the 3D animators can do a better job with the fluidity of movement. Double the work, but it often shows in the results.
Well what did everybody think? There was some very unexpected cameos, I liked it OK
This movie was so terrible it's not even funny. The characters were wasted (in more ways than one), the motivations were lacking, the plot was derivative, the actors were miscast, and the jokes were flat. It was everything I expected and less: a cynical cheap cash-in that sullies the Disney brand and animation in general. Whoever wrote this piece of crap should have their membership revoked and run out of town. I agreed to review this dumpster fire, but honestly, it doesn't deserve the attention.
Watching this movie hurt my brain.
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Well what did everybody think? There was some very unexpected cameos, I liked it OK
This movie was so terrible it's not even funny. The characters were wasted (in more ways than one), the motivations were lacking, the plot was derivative, the actors were miscast, and the jokes were flat. It was everything I expected and less: a cynical cheap cash-in that sullies the Disney brand and animation in general. Whoever wrote this piece of crap should have their membership revoked and run out of town. I agreed to review this dumpster fire, but honestly, it doesn't deserve the attention.