Yet Another Duck Family Tree: Reducks

[justpassingthrough]

In February, I made a duck family tree. Unfortunately, the formatting did not work, and I only realized it recently. So, I've reworked it, added and changed a few things, and this time, it should work. I hope.

Quoting my original attempt:
"The result is a fairly faithful rendition of my personal headcanon tree. (Regarding the use of "fairly": I'm not a huge fan of Glomgold/Rockerduck/other Richest Ducks being actually related to Scrooge, but I found Aunt Eider and Bogey McDivot intriguing enough to try to put them on.)

And, because I love fictional naming conventions and hate empty spaces in my own work, I made theoretical names for all those mystery siblings and parents and such that never seem to be addressed. Names I created are signified by a question mark at the end. (I also invented English names for a couple of one-shot characters that never got them, mostly just to get to make more names.)

www.familyecho.com/?p=START&c=qea8s33xv0&f=919089793648692856

(P.S- Because a good chunk of work on this was begun about four years ago and then forgotten, it's quite possible that a name I assumed I invented in my audit was actually preexisting- whether official or fanmade. If so, that is entirely my mistake, and I will change it.)"

Edit: Disregard the note about question marks. Names I made are in quotes. Anything not in quotes is an actual name from the canon (or, in a few rare cases, pre-existing fan names). English names I created will be in quotes after the original first name, but before the surname. Once you click the link and get to the tree, it is advisable that before you start to read it, you click the "Show options" button and check the following boxes: "Name", "Middle names", "Nickname" and "Surname". It is also advisable that for surnames (in the second column from the right), you select "At birth". Much thanks to TheMidgetMoose for explaining these things to me.

[LP]

While the question marks at the last names are a good addition, it's still hard to understand which first names are fake. Maybe you could put those names in parenthesis or something?

I really like the name "Graham Goose" for Gus' grandfather.

Assuming "'Granddaddy' Duck" is the one from No Hunting, he actually does have a name. He also appears in Your Host, Donald Duck from the '50s, which recently resurfaced on the internet. His name is given as Rufus Duck in that cartoon. Your placement of him seems correct, though.

Speaking of names, Cornelius Coot's parents recently appeared in a story. Their names are Els and Jeroen Van Coot. However, if you want to keep your names, that's fine too. I'm not here to control your head-canon.

[justpassingthrough]

Sept 20, 2022 9:03:34 GMT LP said:

While the question marks at the last names are a good addition, it's still hard to understand which first names are fake. Maybe you could put those names in parenthesis or something?

I really like the name "Graham Goose" for Gus' grandfather.

Assuming "'Granddaddy' Duck" is the one from No Hunting, he actually does have a name. He also appears in Your Host, Donald Duck from the '50s, which recently resurfaced on the internet. His name is given as Rufus Duck in that cartoon. Your placement of him seems correct, though.

Speaking of names, Cornelius Coot's parents recently appeared in a story. Their names are Els and Jeroen Van Coot. However, if you want to keep your names, that's fine too. I'm not here to control your head-canon.

Any name where the surname is followed by a question mark was invented entirely by me, unless there are parentheses in between stating the name they are more commonly known by. EG, Scrooge and Rockerduck’s Aunt Eider is listed as "Eider (Aunt Eider) McMallard?", meant to indicate that this is the character who already had the (presumed) first name of Eider, but I gave her the surname "McMallard". As I am writing this, though, I realize this does sound incredibly confusing, so I will be separately indicating invented first and last names. I will follow both first and last names I made up with question marks.

Granddaddy Daniel is actually meant to be the Daniel Duck from "The Giant of Duckburg". However, that is very interesting to hear about Rufus, and I'm grateful for it (I'm very fond of him and his design, and was always disappointed in the lack of name), so I will try to find a way to put him in, probably by either swapping him for Daniel or combining him with Crockett Duck.

Els and Jeroen’s names have been amended. Thank you for informing me of them as well! (Also, thank you for your kind words on "Graham Goose".)

[LP]

Sept 20, 2022 9:37:03 GMT justpassingthrough said:

Granddaddy Daniel is actually meant to be the Daniel Duck from “The Giant of Duckburg”. However, that is very interesting to hear about Rufus, and I’m grateful for it (I’m very fond of him and his design, and was always disappointed in the lack of name), so I will try to find a way to put him in, probably by either swapping him for Daniel or combining him with Crockett Duck.

Els and Jeroen’s names have been amended. Thank you for informing me of them as well! (Also, thank you for your kind words on “Graham Goose”.)

The "Daniel" in "Granddaddy Duck" is only visible once you click on his name and can se the full name. That's why I was confused!

Crockett Duck was said to be HDL's great-great-great-great-grandfather, logically meaning once less "great" from Donald's perspective. In addition, Crockett Duck is based on American folk hero Davy Crockett, who lived 1786-1836.
In Your Host, Donald Duck, Rufus and his wife are said to be two of the first pioneers who trekked to California. In real life, the first "wave" of pioneers arrived in the 1830s-1840s. The couple has a newborn with them. This baby presumably grows up to be Donald's American Civil War soldier-ancestor (the war lasted 1861-1865).

What makes the most sense to me is that Rufus' baby is Donald's great-grandfather, Rufus is Donald's great-great-grandfather, and Crockett Duck is Donald's great-great-great grandfather. So I wouldn't combine Crockett with Rufus, as they are seemingly from different generations. That being said, this is your head-canon tree and you can do as you please! 

[justpassingthrough]

Sept 20, 2022 11:15:37 GMT LP said:

Sept 20, 2022 9:37:03 GMT justpassingthrough said:

Granddaddy Daniel is actually meant to be the Daniel Duck from “The Giant of Duckburg”. However, that is very interesting to hear about Rufus, and I’m grateful for it (I’m very fond of him and his design, and was always disappointed in the lack of name), so I will try to find a way to put him in, probably by either swapping him for Daniel or combining him with Crockett Duck.

Els and Jeroen’s names have been amended. Thank you for informing me of them as well! (Also, thank you for your kind words on “Graham Goose”.)

The "Daniel" in "Granddaddy Duck" is only visible once you click on his name and can se the full name. That's why I was confused!

Crockett Duck was said to be HDL's great-great-great-great-grandfather, logically meaning once less "great" from Donald's perspective. In addition, Crockett Duck is based on American folk hero Davy Crockett, who lived 1786-1836.
In Your Host, Donald Duck, Rufus and his wife are said to be two of the first pioneers who trekked to California. In real life, the first "wave" of pioneers arrived in the 1830s-1840s. The couple has a newborn with them. This baby presumably grows up to be Donald's American Civil War soldier-ancestor (the war lasted 1861-1865).

What makes the most sense to me is that Rufus' baby is Donald's great-grandfather, Rufus is Donald's great-great-grandfather, and Crockett Duck is Donald's great-great-great grandfather. So I wouldn't combine Crockett with Rufus, as they are seemingly from different generations. That being said, this is your head-canon tree and you can do as you please! 

What I ended up doing was making Daniel and Rufus brothers with Rufus as the Great-great-grandfather. I wrote off one of the Duck elders calling him "Granddaddy" as either just a nickname from his age or Daniel having his own, unseen line of grandchildren. (Both of those are a little shoddy, but they'll do, at least for now.)

[justpassingthrough]

Might have Daniel's line lead to Fethry and Whitewater and other cousins who are supposed to be "distant".

[TheMidgetMoose]

Nice tree! So what's the headcanon story for Diana Drake and Seppi Deppi Duck?

By the way, as regards noting which names are canonical and which ones were made up, maybe consider the "nickname" option on Family Echo. It will put quotation marks around the name, but those of us looking at the tree will have to make sure that we click the "Show options" button and check the box that says "Nickname" so that we can view the names easily.

[justpassingthrough]

Sept 21, 2022 1:05:06 GMT TheMidgetMoose said:

Nice tree! So what's the headcanon story for Diana Drake and Seppi Deppi Duck?

By the way, as regards noting which names are canonical and which ones were made up, maybe consider the "nickname" option on Family Echo. It will put quotation marks around the name, but those of us looking at the tree will have to make sure that we click the "Show options" button and check the box that says "Nickname" so that we can view the names easily.

Good idea about the nicknames, I’ll look into that. (I still don’t have a super great grasp on how FamilyEcho works, so that probably accounts for a good deal of the confusion.)

The headcanon regarding Seppi Deppi and Diana is inspired by a very early radio broadcast in which Donald explains that he was formerly named "Donald Drake", before his father ran out on the family, causing him to choose to take his mother’s maiden name. Now, obviously, this doesn't fit 1-to-1 with the tree, because Donald's father is clearly the one with the surname "Duck", but I took the basic concept and gave the "Drake" name to the new partner instead. Basically, Quackmore took another lover (I'd like to have faith in him and say it was after Hortense's death, but if we’re gonna really try to stick to the inspiration, he's probably gonna have to be unfaithful. It's also possible he was with Diana prior to Hortense.), and the two of them begat Seppi Deppi, a once-mentioned uncle of HDL's, generally assumed to be a brother of Donald and Della's. The half-brotherhood can also be an explanation for his "rarely" (only once) coming up. I made Deppi his birth name, with "Seppi Deppi" being a nickname, to fit the alliteration of Donald and Della Duck. As I look him up while writing this to make sure I have my information right, however, I have learned that "Seppi" is a cutesy German nickname for Joseph, and "Depp", German slang for idiot, so I will be inventing an English name for him, probably along the lines of "Jo-Jo 'Dummy' Duck".

[justpassingthrough]

Sept 21, 2022 1:05:06 GMT TheMidgetMoose said:

By the way, as regards noting which names are canonical and which ones were made up, maybe consider the "nickname" option on Family Echo. It will put quotation marks around the name, but those of us looking at the tree will have to make sure that we click the "Show options" button and check the box that says "Nickname" so that we can view the names easily.

It is done. I greatly appreciate the advice!

[TheMidgetMoose]

Sept 21, 2022 5:13:40 GMT justpassingthrough said:

Good idea about the nicknames, I’ll look into that. (I still don’t have a super great grasp on how FamilyEcho works, so that probably accounts for a good deal of the confusion.)

The headcanon regarding Seppi Deppi and Diana is inspired by a very early radio broadcast in which Donald explains that he was formerly named “Donald Drake”, before his father ran out on the family, causing him to choose to take his mother’s maiden name. Now, obviously, this doesn’t fit 1-to-1 with the tree, because Donald’s father is clearly the one with the surname “Duck”, but I took the basic concept and gave the “Drake” name to the new partner instead. Basically, Quackmore took another lover (I’d like to have faith in him and say it was after Hortense’s death, but if we’re gonna really try to stick to the inspiration, he’s probably gonna have to be unfaithful. It’s also possible he was with Diana PRIOR to Hortense.), and the two of them begat Seppi Deppi, a once-mentioned uncle of HDL’s, generally assumed to be a brother of Donald and Della’s. The half-brotherhood can also be an explanation for his “rarely” (only once) coming up. I made Deppi his birth name, with “Seppi Deppi” being a nickname, to fit the alliteration of Donald and Della Duck. As I look him up while writing this to make sure I have my information right, however, I have learned that “Seppi” is a cutesy German nickname for Joseph, and “Depp”, German slang for idiot, so I will be inventing an English name for him, probably along the lines of “Jo-Jo ‘Dummy’ Duck”.

I guessed it had something to do with the old "Drake/Duck" mythology. I was just curious as to what the exact story is in your headcanon. Do you personally view Quackmore and/or Diana as still being alive today? "Jojo Bozo" (which I am seeing on your tree now) is a great fan name for the character! Actually, a lot of your fan names are great, especially the surnames! Goldenegg, O'Honk, Screamer, Loonsington, Waddler, Wingman (LOVE this one), Vanderbeak... Did you get these names from some comics, or are they totally made up? I love thinking up new Duck-themed surnames!

Sept 21, 2022 6:57:03 GMT justpassingthrough said:

It is done. I greatly appreciate the advice!

Glad to help! It looks great!

[justpassingthrough]

Sept 21, 2022 19:24:39 GMT TheMidgetMoose said:

I guessed it had something to do with the old "Drake/Duck" mythology. I was just curious as to what the exact story is in your headcanon. Do you personally view Quackmore and/or Diana as still being alive today? "Jojo Bozo" (which I am seeing on your tree now) is a great fan name for the character! Actually, a lot of your fan names are great, especially the surnames! Goldenegg, O'Honk, Screamer, Loonsington, Waddler, Wingman (LOVE this one), Vanderbeak... Did you get these names from some comics, or are they totally made up? I love thinking up new Duck-themed surnames!

No, all the surnames except Gotrocks (Which was taken from two separate Strobl-created rivals of Scrooge, one of whom had a nephew named "Stonehart"- hence the decision to give the surname to Stoneheart Glomgold's wife.) are completely original! (They and the first names/invented English names really are what I'm most proud of on the tree, so it makes me very happy to hear you like them.) I also have a great fondness for inventing Duck-themed (and themed in general) names, and spent a great deal of time on the Wikipedia pages for various waterbirds.

Quackmore, I do not view as alive. (Because I felt like no matter how much infidelity/divorce/remarriage after death-based animosity there was between them, he would have to still come up on OCCASION, being the main character's father. Even if he was alive and his relationship with Donald was really that damaged that they never appeared together, that would also present the issue that Quackmore evidently never visits or interacts with his mother.) Diana, however, I think IS still alive, because that's a much more interesting concept, and almost never bringing up or interacting with one's stepmother if there's animosity toward the remarriage is a lot more believable, at least to me. I also think Donald and Della probably grew up only seeing Diana and Jojo Bozo one or two times a year, at birthdays and Christmases and such.

[TheMidgetMoose]

Sept 21, 2022 21:13:21 GMT justpassingthrough said:

No, all the surnames except Gotrocks (Which was taken from two separate Strobl-created rivals of Scrooge, one of whom had a nephew named “Stonehart”- hence the decision to give the surname to Stoneheart Glomgold’s wife.) are completely original! (They and the first names/invented English names really are what I’m most proud of on the tree, so it makes me very happy to hear you like them.) I also have a great fondness for inventing Duck-themed (and themed in general) names, and spent a great deal of time on the Wikipedia pages for various waterbirds.

Quackmore, I do not view as alive. (Because I felt like no matter how much infidelity/divorce/remarriage after death-based animosity there was between them, he would have to still come up on OCCASION, being the main character’s father. Even if he was alive and his relationship with Donald was really that damaged that they never appeared together, that would also present the issue that Quackmore evidently never visits or interacts with his mother.) Diana, however, I think IS still alive, because that’s a much more interesting concept, and almost never bringing up or interacting with one’s stepmother if there’s animosity toward the remarriage is a lot more believable, at least to me. I also think Donald and Della probably grew up only seeing Diana and Jojo Bozo one or two times a year, at birthdays and Christmases and such.

Goodness! I hadn't even explored the Glomgold side of the tree yet! What names! "Slipmind Snorehead" is an excellent name for the character, and there's so many other creative and funny names on this branch of the tree, too! So is your "Gilda Gotrocks" supposed to be a relative of Gotrocks (or the Gotrockses) from those Strobl-drawn stories? The word "Waterbird" which you use would be a fun surname, but I see that you are already using "Waterfowl," which is good, too. I know that I've seen someone (not sure if on this forum or elsewhere...I feel like it was in reference to DuckTales 2017 somehow) suggest "Anatidae" as a surname for some duck character. I think that's pretty clever and sounds refined! I came up with "Plumage" as an alliterative surname for the old Oregon Ducks' mascot, Puddles, who I wrote into my conception of a Life and Times of Donald Duck as Donald's old college rival.

That makes sense regarding Quackmore, Diana, and Jojo Bozo. Thanks for sharing your headcanons! So about how much younger than Donald and Della are you imagining Jojo Bozo being?

[justpassingthrough]

Sept 22, 2022 21:06:48 GMT TheMidgetMoose said:

Goodness! I hadn't even explored the Glomgold side of the tree yet! What names! "Slipmind Snorehead" is an excellent name for the character, and there's so many other creative and funny names on this branch of the tree, too! So is your "Gilda Gotrocks" supposed to be a relative of Gotrocks (or the Gotrockses) from those Strobl-drawn stories? The word "Waterbird" which you use would be a fun surname, but I see that you are already using "Waterfowl," which is good, too. I know that I've seen someone (not sure if on this forum or elsewhere...I feel like it was in reference to DuckTales 2017 somehow) suggest "Anatidae" as a surname for some duck character. I think that's pretty clever and sounds refined! I came up with "Plumage" as an alliterative surname for the old Oregon Ducks' mascot, Puddles, who I wrote into my conception of a Life and Times of Donald Duck as Donald's old college rival.

That makes sense regarding Quackmore, Diana, and Jojo Bozo. Thanks for sharing your headcanons! So about how much younger than Donald and Della are you imagining Jojo Bozo being?

Gilda is, in my head, related to the Gotrockii of the comics. I imagine somewhere down the family line on her side, a descendant named their son after old Great-Great-Uncle Stoneheart.

Anatidae is quite fun as a surname! The word was actually my inspiration for having Daisy's mother be named "Anna". I also adore the idea of Puddles being Donald's rival from college, that's very funny. (And Plumage is a good fit for him, I think.)

I'm always happy to share (and hear) headcanons! I don't have anything really exact for the age difference between the twins and Jojo, because my general conceptualization of time is not great, but I imagine they were already maybe 10/in their early teens when he was born, just to really play up that divide between them.