The original DuckTales seems more in line with the comics, if not always Barks', certainly the ones originating from Western Publishing and the Disney Studios in-house comics program. The new series is a bit of a mish-mash of Barks and Rosa references and the show's writers' ideas (and possibly some Disney executive's ideas for how the kids and Webby could be 20% cooler than the 80s version). That said, if the new show gets a new audience of kids interested in Uncle Scrooge, Donald and the kids, then I'm all for it.
That seems like a sound analysis, Deb. And I'm not anti-New DuckTales the way Rosa is; I'm enjoying parts of it, and I'm happy if it gets a new generation interested in Scrooge & Co. But it does feel to me less like comics-Duckburg than original DuckTales. As you say, original DT didn't often feel like Barks, but it did feel fairly similar to the world of the Western and S-coded comics.
I've gone from enthusiastic to over critical to skeptically enjoying the show and finally to accepting DuckTales 2017 as it's own thing. And I'm enjoying rewatching them without expecting them to be something they aren't.
Post by Monkey_Feyerabend on Jun 9, 2018 8:17:01 GMT
I am on the other side of the spectrum. I was actually hoping that the authors would take a great deal of liberty in re-inventing the Duckburg universe. And I was not disappointed from this perspective. In the end I admit that I like these "reversed" ("out of character" is not enough to express the situation) Luoie and Gyro. I do not need Barks's, or Rosa's, or whoever's comics on screen. I like them on another narrative language, I do not see how they can work equally well as cartoons...and even if they can be reasonably translated into cartoons, I still prefer to see something fresh, or at least different, in animation.
What disappoints me in this series is that every episode relies on a small comic bozzetto masked as an adventure thanks to a cheap abuse of supernatural elements to let the story advance quickly. Which I am ok with too, but not for every episode. A real storytelling structure of adventure is kinda missing. I am left hoping that the resolution of the two subplots (Magica and Della) will eventually resolve into some consistent adventurous episodes. But I am probably hoping too much at this point.
For this reason this series so far has succeeded half.
I do not want to blame the writers, I am sure they do their best with what they have. In the end, in case Disney asked them to make a cartoon series along the line of today's most successful tv cartoons, then there is not much more than this that they could do.
Post by Baar Baar Jinx on Jun 16, 2018 12:54:08 GMT
I have to say that "Jaw$!" was fairly enjoyable. This was clearly an adventure story as opposed to the several sitcom-type episodes we've been seeing recently. It featured the most Barksian animated Scrooge since Soccermania, and the inspiration by Rota's "The Money Ocean" was obvious. Donald's presence, albeit in the semi-cameo way of this show, was welcome, although I really wish they hadn't succumbed to the temptation of making a joke about his quacky voice; to me, that's the distingushing line between Cartoon-Donald and Comics-Donald, and DuckTales '17 never officially crossed it until now.
I just went home tired after a long trip and the new epiosde... Was great thing to watch before I go to sleep.
Yhe, I enjoyed the episode and yhe, so far this felt most like the comics. Scrooge money coming to life was done few times in the comics but this was as still very fun (I asume that the money shark creature was inspired by "The Cloverfrield" movie - that was my first de'javue anyway) I like the way all character play-off eachother and the use of Lunchpad was well balanced.
I like all the Lena stuff, Donald cameos where awsome, Scrooge felt very much in character (great to finaly get an episode centr on his love for money) and yes - it was an enjoyable adventure.
The only thing I don't like is the way they going with Magica. I like her first two apperances on the show when she was all sinister and serious but here she was more comical and over the top Cartoonish. I do like that her plot to get the dime appears to be more of personal vendetta at Scrooge. Her relationship with Lena is still very interesting and I hope it is going into some cool places. Also Magica's plot was something that was very like out of the comics. Only there she would used Ratface to do her dirty work and not Lena.
The ending made me think of "Terror of the Beagle Boys" and the interview subplot was remenicing of "Send in the Clones" from old Duck Tales.
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Post by Baar Baar Jinx on Jun 16, 2018 23:35:38 GMT
Magica did say something about a "bloodfeud" or some such between her family and Scrooge's, so it appears that their animus extends beyond the Number One Dime. BTW, Lena's line about how Scrooge would feed Huey and Louie to the shark himself if they told him what happened made me laugh, especially since it was said with such seriousness and everyone seemed to agree, accepting it as a reason not to get him involved.
I will risk being cursed but every Barks fan on the planet... I sort of like their take on Goldie...
She does seem to fit well with the general milieu of the show. Is she supposed to be much younger than Scrooge here? Her character design seems to suggest as much (as do her insults mocking his age), but then it's probably more likely she's just going to be a contemporary without a clear explanation as to why she seems to be of a different generation. That was what I was afraid of when we first saw what she looked like on this show. It'll be interesting to see how she can still be the "Ice Queen of Dawson" when this show is set in the present, unless that reference had nothing to do with the Klondike Gold Rush. I wonder what Rosa would think of this version of Goldie? (Actually I can guess, although this character physically looks more like his Goldie ... at least his "Young Goldie" ..than anyone else's, and more than DuckTales' 87-Goldie.)
Her character design seems to suggest as much (as do her insults mocking his age), but then it's probably more likely she's just going to be a contemporary without a clear explanation as to why she seems to be of a different generation. That was what I was afraid of when we first saw what she looked like on this show.
At the risk (I take a lot of risk recently aren't I ?) of making some ladies on the forum roll their eyes at me... or just looking silly for trying to justiffy atractivness of a cartoon duck :
I know plenty of older women to have a talent to make themselves look much younger then their actualy are (like their in their 50's but look like their in their late 30's... heck, don't belive me, check out photos of Salma Hayek or Monica Bellucci who are in their 50's but dosen't look like they even have 40) She propably have grey hair but she dyes it etc. Plus you know takes good care of herself
Also seeing this Goldies personality It save to asume that Scrooge can be only few years older (let say 4 or 5) and that's enough for her to mock his age
I will risk being cursed but every Barks fan on the planet... I sort of like their take on Goldie...
She does seem to fit well with the general milieu of the show. Is she supposed to be much younger than Scrooge here? Her character design seems to suggest as much (as do her insults mocking his age), but then it's probably more likely she's just going to be a contemporary without a clear explanation as to why she seems to be of a different generation. That was what I was afraid of when we first saw what she looked like on this show. It'll be interesting to see how she can still be the "Ice Queen of Dawson" when this show is set in the present, unless that reference had nothing to do with the Klondike Gold Rush. I wonder what Rosa would think of this version of Goldie? (Actually I can guess, although this character physically looks more like his Goldie ... at least his "Young Goldie" ..than anyone else's, and more than DuckTales' 87-Goldie.)
Remember that according to early material, how Scrooge and Goldie still look so young despite their absurd age will actually be explored in the show. If anyone has doubts, someone recently asked Angones again and he reinforced that the reason of Scrooge and Goldie's youthfulness was "spoilers".
Anyway, yes, I like this Goldie, and she doesn't actually seem too wild a departure from Barks's Young!Goldie. Good stuff, is my point. But — and it may not be a coincidence considering what Tennant is famous for and what Angones is clearly a fan of — more than Catwoman as stated, if I had to compare this Goldie to a character from another franchise, then at first glance I would say "duck version of River Song". Does… does anybody else see this?
Is this just me or his costume on the very end was base on Michael Moore?
It made you think of Moore just because this Glomgold is fat. But I guess it was just a tribute to Steven Spealberg, who typically wears that kind of hat and glasses. Here he is on the set of Jaws:
Propably your right. And true, my first instinct was "Glomgold looks like some sort of a movie director" and then I jump to Moore do to Glomgold's overweight...
Spilberg didn't had his trademark hat for so long I forgot it was iconic for his image.
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