References in the new Mickey Mouse Halloween cartoon

[drleevezan]

In "Mickey Mouse: The Scariest Halloween Story Ever", there are many references to Disney things.
Here are some that I noticed:
-Huey, Dewey, and Louie wear their costumes from "Trick or Treat" and the town is based on the one from "Trick or Treat" as well
-It opens with Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Huey, Dewey, Louie, Morty, and Ferdie trick-or-treating at various houses getting strange treats such as hay or fish, which could be a reference to the beginning of "Donald's Halloween Scare"
-Two of the houses they trick-or-treat at are Horace Horsecollar's (the hay) and Clarabelle Cow's (the fish)
-Chernabog is seen on Bald Mountain in the background, opening his wings as he does in the beginning of "A Night on Bald Mountain"
-The Steamboat from "Steamboat Willie" is seen in a pond outside of Mickey's House
-Mickey is dressed in the lederhosen-costume he wore in "Yodelberg", and Goofy is dressed in his Super Goof costume. Donald is not dressed up at all. (which could be a reference to how he usually stays home without a costume to trick trick-or-treaters)
-There is a picture of the Twins from "Mickey Mouse: Duck the Halls" on Mickey's wall
-Goofy says that Mickey comes from the happiest place on earth, a reference to Disneyland's tagline
-The Frankenstein story is a bit like the Frankenstein story from "Goofy Adventures" No. 1
-Huey, Dewey, Louie, Morty, and Ferdie distinctly say "Unca" Mickey and Donald, like they do in the comics and old cartoons
-In the Dracula story, Goofy's name is "Dipworth Goofington the Third", probably a reference to Goofy's original name, Dippy Dawg.
-Also in the Dracula story, Donald bounces off Goofy's head using a baseball bat and then hits a vampire bat with it, which is probably not, but could be, a reference to the pogo cane in the DuckTales video game
-Also in the Dracula story, Donald as "Dread (or it might have been Drake, hard to understand in Donald's duck voice) McQuack" looks a lot like younger Uncle Scrooge. Also, McQuack could be a reference to Launchpad McQuack
-Mrs. Johnson from "Fire Escape" and "The Boiler Room" makes a reappearance
-In the witch story, the witch looks a tiny bit like the witch from "Hansel and Gretel (the Mickey Mouse Works short)" and also disguises herself as a normal old lady. She also wants to bake people into pie. This witch is a bit creepier, though.
-Also in the witch story, Huey, Dewey, Louie, Morty, and Ferdie steal pie from, besides Donald and Goofy, Clara Cluck and the butcher from "Stayin' Cool"
-Also, not really an in-cartoon reference, but Russi Taylor plays the witch and Minnie, and Minnie dresses as the witch.
-On the beginning title card, a Mickey Halloween jack-o'-lantern is shown, which looks a lot like the ones that are mascots for "Mickey's not-so-scary Halloween party"
-Also, at one point, Mickey dresses like a vampire, looking much like he does on some promotional brochures for "Mickey's not-so-scary Halloween party"
-The carriage that Van Mousing, Dipworth Goofington the Third, and Dread/Drake McQuack ride in at one point during the Dracula story looks a bit like the evil carriage from "Cinderella III: a Twist in Time"


Did anyone notice any more references in "Mickey Mouse: The Scariest Halloween story Ever!"?

[Baar Baar Jinx]

I haven't watched this special yet, but the appearance of Morty and Ferdie is in itself interesting, as they (unlike HD&L) are primarily comic book characters, rather than cartoon characters. Mickey tended to have a variable number of nephews in the cartoons (sometimes hordes of them, and it wasn't even made clear that they were indeed related to him in any way). In fact, were Morty and Ferdie's names ever mentioned in animation before (and are they here)?

[drleevezan]

Sept 29, 2017 14:02:01 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

I haven't watched this special yet, but the appearance of Morty and Ferdie is in itself interesting, as they (unlike HD&L) are primarily comic book characters, rather than cartoon characters. Mickey tended to have a variable number of nephews in the cartoons (sometimes hordes of them, and it wasn't even made clear that they were indeed related to him in any way). In fact, were Morty and Ferdie's names ever mentioned in animation before (and are they here)?

I'm not sure if the names have been mentioned in animation before, but yes, Mickey very clearly calls them Morty and Ferdie multiple times in this episode.

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Sept 29, 2017 14:12:04 GMT drleevezan said:

Sept 29, 2017 14:02:01 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

I haven't watched this special yet, but the appearance of Morty and Ferdie is in itself interesting, as they (unlike HD&L) are primarily comic book characters, rather than cartoon characters. Mickey tended to have a variable number of nephews in the cartoons (sometimes hordes of them, and it wasn't even made clear that they were indeed related to him in any way). In fact, were Morty and Ferdie's names ever mentioned in animation before (and are they here)?

I'm not sure if the names have been mentioned in animation before, but yes, Mickey very clearly calls them Morty and Ferdie multiple times in this episode.

So this may be the first mention of the names "Morty and Ferdie" in animation. Can anyone confirm?

EDIT: Also, just wanted to say again, as I did after Duck the Halls was released, that I find it unfortunate that Disney seems to have decided that the crude, abstract style of the new Mickey shorts is the default way in which the classic characters will be presented in new animation specials. DuckTales '17 is an exception (they have off-model characters as well, but with a somewhat more appealing design), but the logo for "Disney Television Animation" similarly features an image of Mickey in this new style, which I personally find atrocious.

[drleevezan]

Sept 29, 2017 15:03:37 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

Sept 29, 2017 14:12:04 GMT drleevezan said:

I'm not sure if the names have been mentioned in animation before, but yes, Mickey very clearly calls them Morty and Ferdie multiple times in this episode.

So this may be the first mention of the names "Morty and Ferdie" in animation. Can anyone confirm?

It seems like it might be. Besides the original Mickey Mouse films, where their names are never said, and Mickey's Christmas Carol, where they are referred to as Tiny Tim and Bob Cratchit's other son, they have only ever made cameo appearances in animation until this.

[Hyaroo]

Sept 29, 2017 15:03:37 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

Sept 29, 2017 14:12:04 GMT drleevezan said:

I'm not sure if the names have been mentioned in animation before, but yes, Mickey very clearly calls them Morty and Ferdie multiple times in this episode.

So this may be the first mention of the names "Morty and Ferdie" in animation. Can anyone confirm?

EDIT: Also, just wanted to say again, as I did after Duck the Halls was released, that I find it unfortunate that Disney seems to have decided that the crude, abstract style of the new Mickey shorts is the default way in which the classic characters will be presented in new animation specials. DuckTales '17 is an exception (they have off-model characters as well, but with a somewhat more appealing design), but the logo for "Disney Television Animation" similarly features an image of Mickey in this new style, which I personally find atrocious.

I think you're right. Morty and Ferdie have only had one cartoon where they played a major role; Mickey's Steamroller from 1934 -- and their names were never mentioned in that cartoon (I just checked). Other than that, their animated appearances have only been brief nonspeaking cameos, unless you count possibly-Morty as Tiny Tim in Mickey's Christmas Carol. So yeah -- I think we can safely say that this is the first time their names have been mentioned in animation.

As for the new "wacky" style... I don't know, it has some cringey moments, but I think I've come to appreciate it. It might not look as good as the classic cartoons, but there's a lot of personality to that style... which I think works better than the streamlined and overly-polished "generic Disney" style of the ol' Mickey Mouseworks cartoon... or the somewhat bland-looking CGI Clubhouse-style shows.

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Sept 29, 2017 16:16:04 GMT Hyaroo said:

As for the new "wacky" style... I don't know, it has some cringey moments, but I think I've come to appreciate it. It might not look as good as the classic cartoons, but there's a lot of personality to that style... which I think works better than the streamlined and overly-polished "generic Disney" style of the ol' Mickey Mouseworks cartoon... or the somewhat bland-looking CGI Clubhouse-style shows.

Not to get too off-topic here, but my favorite Disney TV animated style would have to be the one used in House of Mouse. It was energetic and fluid, while being respectful of the classic characters, allowing them to retain their design and dignity. Quack Pack had fairly good animation as well. Much as I dislike the animation in the Mickey shorts, I'm willing to accept it as its own separate thing ... I just don't like the fact that this has now apparently become the "house" style, as it were.

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Sept 29, 2017 16:56:22 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

I just don't like the fact that this has now apparently become the "house" style, as it were.

Has it, though? The logo could just be borrowing the character from their current most popular series, in a purposeful allusion to the Mickey Mouse shorts themselves, as opposed to wanting to use an "average" Mickey and picking his modern design. 

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Sept 29, 2017 17:06:33 GMT Scrooge MacDuck said:

Sept 29, 2017 16:56:22 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

I just don't like the fact that this has now apparently become the "house" style, as it were.

Has it, though? The logo could just be borrowing the character from their current most popular series, in a purposeful allusion to the Mickey Mouse shorts themselves, as opposed to wanting to use an "average" Mickey and picking his modern design. 

That may be, but why couldn't "Duck the Halls" and "Scariest Halloween Story Ever" have been done in the classic style? Why does every new TV special have to be with these new designs?

[Hyaroo]

Sept 29, 2017 17:09:24 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

Sept 29, 2017 17:06:33 GMT Scrooge MacDuck said:

Has it, though? The logo could just be borrowing the character from their current most popular series, in a purposeful allusion to the Mickey Mouse shorts themselves, as opposed to wanting to use an "average" Mickey and picking his modern design. 

That may be, but why couldn't "Duck the Halls" and "Scariest Halloween Story Ever" have been done in the classic style? Why does every new TV special have to be with these new designs?

Aren't they considered part of the Mickey Mouse series? I don't think they're meant to be viewed as separate from that series.

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Sept 29, 2017 17:19:31 GMT Hyaroo said:

Sept 29, 2017 17:09:24 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

That may be, but why couldn't "Duck the Halls" and "Scariest Halloween Story Ever" have been done in the classic style? Why does every new TV special have to be with these new designs?

Aren't they considered part of the Mickey Mouse series? I don't think they're meant to be viewed as separate from that series.

Yes, but I guess what I mean is, why create these specials as part of the series, rather than as standalone TV specials starring the classic characters in the classic style, like the old Mickey's Once Upon a Christmas specials? Disney seems to now think that when they want to put out a Christmas or Halloween special with Mickey and the gang, it somehow needs to be part of this series and in this style, rather than in the classic style.

[Hyaroo]

Probably because they have the same creators and staff as the series? I don't think it means that the Mickey Mouse shorts is the new "house style" or anything. Besides... Once Opon a Christmas took a lot of its visual style and tone from the Mickey MouseWorks series, which was being aired at the time, so I'd say there's precedent. 

[The KKM]

Yeah, Duck the Halls and Scariest Halloween Story aren't just generic "holiday specials with the characters", they're very clearly and specifically specials of the current Mickey TV show. Much the same staff, same actors, same writing, same opening cards and the like, all this beyond just the art style.