Othher comics you think could take place in the Disneyverse

[marco996]

There are many other funny animal comics I like and consider part of Disney Universe in my headcanon (my fantasies that they live in Duckburg and interact with Donald ) I know it's not canon but it's fun for me.

-Sonic The Hedgehog comics:


Pif and Hercule (french comic):


Max and Nina (french comic):


Canardo (Belgian comic):


Chip and Walter (webcomic):


And of course Barney Bear by Carl Barks:

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Nov 4, 2017 21:26:52 GMT marco996 said:

There are many other funny animal comics I like and consider part of Disney Universe in my headcanon (my fantasies that they live in Duckburg and interact with Donald ) I know it's not canon but it's fun for me.

-Sonic The Hedgehog comics:


Pif and Hercule (french comic):


Max and Nina (french comic):


Canardo (Belgian comic):


Chip and Walter (webcomic):


And of course Barney Bear by Carl Barks:

I don't know Max & Nina, Canardo and Chip & Walter; however, I do also sometimes idly consider Pif and Barney Bear being part of the Duckverse. Sonic on the other hand… I don't think it really meshes well, does it? It has its own established lore, with the animal characters all coming from a particular island…

To add my own two cents: there are numerous vintage comics that could easily be considered part of the Duckverse, for instance (but far from limited to) the infamous Super Duck comics. I also volunteer John Stanley's Oswald comics, which are all the more likely to exist in the Duckverse because we already know Toby Bear and Oswald Rabbit exist there — Disney just doesn't own the rights to those particular stories, but it's easy to still consider them canon.

((Also, you might want to rename the thread if what you're discussing is other comics you think could take place in the same world as the Disney ones; I'm crazy about, say, Achille Talon, but the thought of it existing in the same continuity as Donald is ludicrous.))

[RobbK1]

Freddy Milton's Woody Woodpecker (Soeren Spaette) Splinter and Knothead, Kalle Kloderik and his 3 nephews, Freddy's Goose detective, and his Gnuff Family of dragons

Carl Barks' Barney Bear, Benny Burro, Happy Hound/Droopy

WB's Bugs Bunny, Porky Pig, Daffy Duck, Henery Hawk

Walter Lantz's Woody Woodpecker, Andy Panda and Charlie Chicken, Oswald Rabbit and his nephews, Homer Pigeon, Wally Walrus, Chilly Willy

All Jack Bradbury's animal characters that appeared in Barnyard, Giggle, Ha Ha, Hi-Jinx, Happy, Goofy, Coo Coo, and Dizzy Duck Comics

All Ken Hultgren's animal characters that appeared in Barnyard, Giggle, Ha Ha, Hi-Jinx, Happy, Goofy, Coo Coo, and Dizzy Duck Comics

All Lynn and Hubie Karp's characters that appeared in Barnyard, Giggle, Ha Ha, Hi-Jinx, Happy, Goofy, Coo Coo, and Dizzy Duck Comics

[hex]

Nov 5, 2017 2:26:13 GMT RobbK1 said:

Freddy Milton's Woody Woodpecker (Soeren Spaette) Splinter and Knothead, Kalle Kloderik and his 3 nephews, Freddy's Goose detective, and his Gnuff Family of dragons

That would be interesting if they all met the Donald and the boys in a story and started talking about that one time on an island when they met the Big Sneezer.

[Hector]

Darkwing Duck and Duck Avenger crossover, yay.

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Nov 5, 2017 10:42:48 GMT Hector said:

Darkwing Duck and Duck Avenger crossover, yay.

Hmm… well that's not really a crossover, is it? They both theoretically take place in the regular Disney universe. 

[Hector]

Nov 5, 2017 11:01:42 GMT Scrooge MacDuck said:

Nov 5, 2017 10:42:48 GMT Hector said:

Darkwing Duck and Duck Avenger crossover, yay.

Hmm… well that's not really a crossover, is it? They both theoretically take place in the regular Disney universe. 

Has it ever been mentioned they're both in the same reality?

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Nov 5, 2017 12:22:51 GMT Hector said:

Nov 5, 2017 11:01:42 GMT Scrooge MacDuck said:

Hmm… well that's not really a crossover, is it? They both theoretically take place in the regular Disney universe. 

Has it ever been mentioned they're both in the same reality?

Not directly, but the Duck Avenger (I'm talking about the original; PKNA is more debatable) exists within the same universe as regular comics, and Darkwing Duck explicitly takes place in the same world as DuckTales Classic, for which there is ample evidence of it being in the same continuity as the regular comics. 

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Nov 5, 2017 2:26:13 GMT RobbK1 said:

WB's Bugs Bunny, Porky Pig, Daffy Duck, Henery Hawk

Well, not the cartoon versions, where Bugs lives in a hole in the ground and is hunted by Elmer Fudd, Daffy flies south for the winter, and Sylvester wants to eat Tweety. The Looney Tunes characters are either  Modified Emslie Anthropomorphic Scale (MEAS) level 3s or 4As, whereas the Ducks and Mice are level 4Bs (human in all but appearance). (For the same reason, Li'l Bad Wolf stories cannot be placed in the greater Duck/Mouse universe). Mickey, Donald, Goofy et al. have never been shown to have even a trace of the characteristics of the animals they're derived from, even in the cartoons (something that sets them apart from Bugs and company), the only exception being the recent awful "Duck the Halls" episode of the new Mickey Mouse series. I don't know if the Looney Tunes characters were portrayed differently in the comics, but the animated versions would not fit in the Duck and Mouse universes. But of course, we've discussed this at length in numerous threads both on this forum and on the DCF. I don't know enough about the other franchises mentioned to comment as to whether they would mesh well with the Ducks and Mice.    

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Nov 5, 2017 16:26:40 GMT @baarbaarjinx said:

Well, not the cartoon versions, where Bugs lives in a hole in the ground and is hunted by Elmer Fudd, Daffy flies south for the winter, and Sylvester wants to eat Tweety. The Looney Tunes characters are either  Modified Emslie Anthropomorphic Scale (MEAS) level 3s or 4As, whereas the Ducks and Mice are level 4Bs (human in all but appearance). (For the same reason, Li'l Bad Wolf stories cannot be placed in the greater Duck/Mouse universe). Mickey, Donald, Goofy et al. have never been shown to have even a trace of the characteristics of the animals they're derived from, even in the cartoons (something that sets them apart from Bugs and company), the only exception being the recent awful "Duck the Halls" episode of the new Mickey Mouse series. I don't know if the Looney Tunes characters were portrayed differently in the comics, but the animated versions would not fit in the Duck and Mouse universes. But of course, we've discussed this at length in numerous threads both on this forum and on the DCF. I don't know enough about the other franchises mentioned to comment as to whether they would mesh well with the Ducks and Mice.    

You know my feelings on Li'l Bad Wolf… but anyway. As someone more familiar with the Looney Tunes comics, I can tell you that at least some of them mostly went into 4B territory. Porky Pig, even in the cartoons, was always a 4B, making his interactions with Bugs or Daffy a bit odd, and pretty often in the comics you'd have clearly 4B Porky interacting with dognoses that wouldn't be out of place in a Barks comic, along with some humans, and a Bugs Bunny who was not shown to live in a hole anymore, although he still didn't wear any clothes and still ate carrots. Daffy had a bit more of a tendancy to exhibit animal characteristics even in those comics. Either way, these vintage comics would definitely fit with the wider, Dutch-style Disney comics universe (the one including the Song of the South folks and the Pig characters), if not in the more modern version. 

Also, one exception to Mickey and Donald not being portrayed as animals in the cartoons: the early Mickey Mouse short When the Cat's Away is an aberration where Pete is a housecat (!) and Mickey, Minnie and a score of other mice are still mice-sized (!!) and acting as vermin in a human home (!!!). That is to say, Duck the Halls could have been soooo much worse…

[RobbK1]

Nov 5, 2017 16:26:40 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

Nov 5, 2017 2:26:13 GMT RobbK1 said:

WB's Bugs Bunny, Porky Pig, Daffy Duck, Henery Hawk

Well, not the cartoon versions, where Bugs lives in a hole in the ground and is hunted by Elmer Fudd, Daffy flies south for the winter, and Sylvester wants to eat Tweety. The Looney Tunes characters are either  Modified Emslie Anthropomorphic Scale (MEAS) level 3s or 4As, whereas the Ducks and Mice are level 4Bs (human in all but appearance). (For the same reason, Li'l Bad Wolf stories cannot be placed in the greater Duck/Mouse universe). Mickey, Donald, Goofy et al. have never been shown to have even a trace of the characteristics of the animals they're derived from, even in the cartoons (something that sets them apart from Bugs and company), the only exception being the recent awful "Duck the Halls" episode of the new Mickey Mouse series. I don't know if the Looney Tunes characters were portrayed differently in the comics, but the animated versions would not fit in the Duck and Mouse universes. But of course, we've discussed this at length in numerous threads both on this forum and on the DCF. I don't know enough about the other franchises mentioned to comment as to whether they would mesh well with the Ducks and Mice.    

Yes, I was thinking more of the context of the wider, Dutch Comics Disney Comics Universe, using thses non-Disney characters ONLY in their 4B forms.

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Yes, Bugs and Daffy alternate between being MEAS level 3s (animals in an animal world who can interact meaningfully with humans) and 4As (animals in a human world who are treated as sentient animals but animals nevertheless). With Bugs in particular it seems to be dependent on his antagonist; he behaves like a level 3 when pitted against Fudd or Wile E. Coyote, and as a level 4A (or perhaps even a 4B-1) against Yosemite Sam or Marvin the Martian. It's interesting that Porky is almost always a level 4B ... even taking over the hunter role from Fudd at times.

How about Count Duckula? It features an anthropomorphic  duck cast in an MEAS-4B world (all waterfowl, IIRC). I believe it would fit seamlessly into the Disney Duck/Mouse universes. Not so sure about the show it's a spin-off of, Danger Mouse, which featured level 3 animals in a predominantly animal world (their headquarters was a London postbox, so they were obviously animal-sized). Danger Mouse was rebooted in 2015 à la DuckTales '17, and it looks like the updated version is set in an MEAS level 4B world that might be compatible with the Ducks and Mice (but I've only seen a few episodes online, so I can't be sure).

EDIT: Amazingly, the Board kept blocking my post because of the phrase "level 4As (animals)" in the first sentence ... I had to paste and repaste the post word-by-word to figure out what it was unhappy about and change it to "4As" ... but look, it's letting me do it here ... bizarre. 

[Matilda]

Nov 5, 2017 18:27:58 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

How about Count Duckula? It features an anthropomorphic  duck cast in an MEAS-4B world (all waterfowl, IIRC). I believe it would fit seamlessly into the Disney Duck/Mouse universes. Not so sure about the show it's a spin-off of, Danger Mouse, which featured level 3 animals in a predominantly animal world (their headquarters was a London postbox, so they were obviously animal-sized). Danger Mouse was rebooted in 2015 à la DuckTales '17, and it looks like the updated version is set in an MEAS level 4B world that might be compatible with the Ducks and Mice (but I've only seen a few episodes online, so I can't be sure).

I've never seen the animated show Count Duckula--only read a kids' book based on it, which makes me think you're right, it would fit right in. The characters are all sorts of birds, by the way, not just waterfowl.

From what I can read online, it looks like what you say about the MEAS level of the two Danger Mouse shows is correct. There would be a bit of a character clash if one wanted to hold Count Duckula and reboot Danger Mouse in the same universe, though. In the original DM, Duckula was an evil trad vampire. In CD, he's a benign, vegetarian vampire, self-involved but good-natured. In the reboot DM, his character is a mix between the original villain and the CD series hero.

Has anyone here read the Marvel Star Comics Count Duckula comics from 1988? Are they any good?

[Monkey_Feyerabend]

Count Duckula was clearly a Donald Duck-type of anthropomorphism. In the (legendary) Italian opening theme at a certain point you can hear a typical "Donald Duck" voice sound... 




That funky bass is half of my childhood. 

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Nov 5, 2017 18:27:58 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

Yes, Bugs and Daffy alternate between being MEAS level 3s (animals in an animal world who can interact meaningfully with humans) and 4As (animals in a human world who are treated as sentient animals but animals nevertheless). With Bugs in particular it seems to be dependent on his antagonist; he behaves like a level 3 when pitted against Fudd or Wile E. Coyote, and as a level 4A (or perhaps even a 4B-1) against Yosemite Sam or Marvin the Martian. It's interesting that Porky is almost always a level 4B ... even taking over the hunter role from Fudd at times.

What you describe here is the situation in the cartoons. The vintage comics, as I documented above, were a bit of a different story; for one thing, unlike any cartoon that I'm aware of, they incorporated numerous dognoses.

Nov 5, 2017 18:27:58 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

How about Count Duckula? It features an anthropomorphic  duck cast in an MEAS-4B world (all waterfowl, IIRC). I believe it would fit seamlessly into the Disney Duck/Mouse universes. Not so sure about the show it's a spin-off of, Danger Mouse, which featured level 3 animals in a predominantly animal world (their headquarters was a London postbox, so they were obviously animal-sized). Danger Mouse was rebooted in 2015 à la DuckTales '17, and it looks like the updated version is set in an MEAS level 4B world that might be compatible with the Ducks and Mice (but I've only seen a few episodes online, so I can't be sure).

Yes, I do entertain the thought of Duckula sharing a universe with the Duckburg gang. Danger Mouse… well, I'd need to see more of it, but I don't think it's out of the question within the same frame of mind that accepts Jacq and Gus's presence in Grandma Duck's farm — animal-sized but fully sapient people, much like the Rodent District seen in Zootopia. The DM Duckula was bloodthirsty because it was a previous reincarnation of the Count

Nov 5, 2017 18:27:58 GMT Matilda said:

From what I can read online, it looks like what you say about the MEAS level of the two Danger Mouse shows is correct. There would be a bit of a character clash if one wanted to hold Count Duckula and reboot Danger Mouse in the same universe, though. In the original DM, Duckula was an evil trad vampire. In CD, he's a benign, vegetarian vampire, self-involved but good-natured. In the reboot DM, his character is a mix between the original villain and the CD series hero.

The original Danger Mouse and Count Duckula share a universe; the change in Duckula's personality is explained within the story — Duckula has been brought back from the dead countless times and was originally the bloodthirsty fellow Danger Mouse met; only, his bumbling minions messed up the latest resurrection, accidentally using ketchup in place of blood. The result is a mild-mannered "reverse-Negaduck" of the original Duckula, who is the fellow we follow for all of that show. The new Danger Mouse is indeed very similar in its place to DT17: a reboot of the original show, also including characters and concepts from its spin-off (Darkwing Duck in DT's case). Like DT17, it is set in a continuity all of its own, and it would make no sense for the original Duckula and new Danger Mouse to both exist within the same continuity (shared or not with Disney comics) — it'd be as absurd as insisting that the plotline of Dangerous Currency is canon to the new DuckTales.