Other cities and towns in Calisota

[LP]

Nov 7, 2020 19:51:23 GMT RobbK1 said:

We could assume that "Quackville" is a District inside Duckburg, which has its own newspaper.  After all, a kid winning an ordinary kite contest is not likely to be placed on the front page of a big city or middle-sized city newspaper, like The Duckburg Daily Blah.  It is logical to assume that "Duckville" is the district inside Duckburg that encompasses Donald's neighbourhood on Duckburg's South Side (AKA "South Duckburg").  I don't think Duckburg has an "alternate name".  IF it were to have an alternate name, that should be a descriptive term, such as Chicago is termed, "The Windy City", or New York is termed, "Gotham City".  Having Duckville as a separate city brings up the problem of Donald and his nephews reading a newspaper from a smaller, nearby town, which has local news about a nearby bigger city.  I DO have Duckville as another town inside Duck County, because Bob Gregory used it in a few of his stories.

Quackville being a district is a good solution, and your reasoning makes sense!
Although, then we'd have both a Quackville and a Quacktown (where Grandma's farm is located). I guess there's nothing saying you can't have two similarly named districts within the same town, it's just... annoying, I guess. Reminds me of how I put Daniel Duck as the father of Danial Duck on my Duck family tree...

Also, I assume you mean "Quackville" when you write "Duckville".

[RobbK1]

Nov 8, 2020 12:38:13 GMT LP said:

Nov 7, 2020 19:51:23 GMT RobbK1 said:

We could assume that "Quackville" is a District inside Duckburg, which has its own newspaper.  After all, a kid winning an ordinary kite contest is not likely to be placed on the front page of a big city or middle-sized city newspaper, like The Duckburg Daily Blah.  It is logical to assume that "Duckville" is the district inside Duckburg that encompasses Donald's neighbourhood on Duckburg's South Side (AKA "South Duckburg").  I don't think Duckburg has an "alternate name".  IF it were to have an alternate name, that should be a descriptive term, such as Chicago is termed, "The Windy City", or New York is termed, "Gotham City".  Having Duckville as a separate city brings up the problem of Donald and his nephews reading a newspaper from a smaller, nearby town, which has local news about a nearby bigger city.  I DO have Duckville as another town inside Duck County, because Bob Gregory used it in a few of his stories.

Quackville being a district is a good solution, and your reasoning makes sense!
Although, then we'd have both a Quackville and a Quacktown (where Grandma's farm is located). I guess there's nothing saying you can't have two similarly named districts within the same town, it's just... annoying, I guess. Reminds me of how I put Daniel Duck as the father of Danial Duck on my Duck family tree...

Also, I assume you mean "Quackville" when you write "Duckville".

Yes.  I am so used to thinking of Bob Gregory's and Tony Strobl's Duckville that I forgot what I was thinking.

[Matilda]

In Janet Gilbert/Vicar's Once a Loser, Donald temporarily moves to the town of Turkeyton, which I would guess to be in Calisota.

[LP]

Hi, remember this thread? Well, I just read Barks' Forbidden Valley, wherein Donald reads about Tuleburg in the newspaper. 

Now, to be fair, there's no evidence that Tuleburg is located in Calisota. But I thought it deserved to be mentioned anyways.

[RobbK1]

Nov 16, 2020 4:25:21 GMT Matilda said:

In Janet Gilbert/Vicar's Once a Loser, Donald temporarily moves to the town of Turkeyton, which I would guess to be in Calisota.

I think it's a good rule to assume every city, town, or village mentioned or shown in Disney Duck Universe story or gag panels, or Disney Comics advertising or other Disney Comics related material, should be considered to be located in Calisota, unless it is stated specifically that the city, town, or village is located in another US state or a foreign country.

So, that would apply to Tuleburg, as well, - otherwise Donald would have read which state or country Tuleburg was located in, to avoid confusion with all the other Tuleburgs in other USA states, and in other countries with Germanic-rooted first or second languages.  As is often the case in many US states and other countries, villages, towns, and cities are often named after historical persons or events, or geographic landforms that can, and do, occur many places.  So you can have multiple population centers named after the same aristocratic family, or same famous person, or same geographic term, or a combination of them, such as Washington, Pleasantville, Bloomfield, Blumenfeld, Pittsburgh, Pittsburg, Pittston, Pittstown, Pitt City, Pittville, Pittdale, Forestville, Forest City, Forestdale, etc. 

There could potentially be a "Goosetown" in every single state in USA, and, every single county within Calisota, not to mention every single country which had a significant English-speaking population, especially during its early-modern civilising period, plus a few countries in which American or English culture is respected, or the object of fetish, the way that some ancient Egyptian city names have been adopted as names of US towns or cities (Memphis, Tennessee, and several small towns in "The Bible Belt" and Morman Utah and The Southwest, have ancient Middle Eastern names.

[LP]

The Ducks are heading to Swanville in Losing Face.

[LP]

Sagmore Springs is a town in Sagmore Springs Hotel.

[sim]

Nov 5, 2020 17:28:03 GMT LP said:

Donald mentions Skeetertown, which is "a mile down the river", in Barks' In the Swim. Maybe it's not a separate town, but rather a part of Duckburg, like Quacktown

well, in Misteriose Presenze a Quack Town, Quack Town does not seem located in Calisota.

[LP]

Apr 1, 2021 19:13:11 GMT sim said:

well, in Misteriose Presenze a Quack Town, Quack Town does not seem located in Calisota.

That's odd, considering Quack Town is where Grandma's farm is located, and Grandma's farm is definitely located in the outskirts of Duckburg, which in turn is definitely located in Calisota.

[Spectrus]

Probably just the artist being sloppy and/or depicting that the kids themselves don't really know where to locate their place, aside from on the North American continent!

[LP]

Apr 2, 2021 10:10:03 GMT Spectrus said:

Probably just the artist being sloppy and/or depicting that the kids themselves don't really know where to locate their place, aside from on the North American continent!

My guess would be that the artist him-/herself didn't know where Quack Town/Duckburg should be located. But, yeah - I agree that sloppiness is probably to blame.

[LP]

Duck County and Goose Egg County are mentioned in Getting Thor. (These were briefly mentioned before in this thread, but here they are again.)



Tuleville is mentioned in The Half-Baked Baker. I'm not sure if it's supposed to be the same as Tuleburg, but... I don't know.



By the way, what's the deal with all these Tule-names that Barks used? Tuleburg, Tuleville, Tulebug River... Is it a duck-related word that I somehow has never heard about before?

[sim]

Apr 7, 2021 21:42:27 GMT LP said:

By the way, what's the deal with all these Tule-names that Barks used? Tuleburg, Tuleville, Tulebug River... Is it a duck-related word that I somehow has never heard about before?

According to the super-complete cbarks.dk:

<< One of Barks' recurring location names is Tulebug taken after his brother Clyde's residence city for most of his life. In the stories Barks named several locations by that name (Tulebug Creek, Tulebug Dam, Tulebug River), and Gyro is racing on Tulebug Lake. >>

[RobbK1]

Apr 7, 2021 21:42:27 GMT LP said:

Duck County and Goose Egg County are mentioned in Getting Thor. (These were briefly mentioned before in this thread, but here they are again.)



Tuleville is mentioned in The Half-Baked Baker. I'm not sure if it's supposed to be the same as Tuleburg, but... I don't know.



By the way, what's the deal with all these Tule-names that Barks used? Tuleburg, Tuleville, Tulebug River... Is it a duck-related word that I somehow has never heard about before?

No, Carl didn’t mean for Tuleville and Tuleburg to be the same town. He told me that they were both towns near or on the shore of Tule Lake, which he had used in a few other stories. Tule is a reed fresh water aquatic, grass-related plant, which grows in swamps, bogs, and marshes, and on the shorelines of ponds. Lakes, and rivers. He meant for the “tule” portion of the towns’ names to indicate that they were VERY far away from Duckburg, and indeed, any other outpost of civilisation. From about 1860 through the 1950s, “way out in the tules” was the cliché US and Canadian idiomatic phrase for “very far away from anything”, like “Way out in the middle of nowhere”, or “Way out in The Boonies”. Ducks, Coots, and other Marshbirds thrive there. Cattails are the pods that hold the seeds of the reeds’ stalks, that are brown, and shaped like corn dogs. Thus, Barks’ naming of the town of Cattail Slough, which hosted the great frog jumping race where Donald entered the family pet, “Hot Stove Hoppy”, in the September 1958 Walt Disney’s Comics and Stories.

There’s a connection with Carl from his youth. He and his brother grew up on The Barks’ family farm in southeastern Oregon, very near the California border, and just south of it lies the real-World’s Tule Lake (home of Barks’ “Tule Lake Taters”. I placed Tuleburg and Tuleville on the opposite shores of Tule Lake, inside Tule County, in the most northeasterly county of Calisota.

Here are photos of tule reeds with cattails, a tulereed swamp, and an overhead shot of a large, rural, tule marshlands area:

Tule Reeds with Cattails:

Tule Swamp:

Tule Marshlands area overview:

[duckly]

Apr 2, 2021 8:54:32 GMT LP said:

Apr 1, 2021 19:13:11 GMT sim said:

well, in Misteriose Presenze a Quack Town, Quack Town does not seem located in Calisota.

That's odd, considering Quack Town is where Grandma's farm is located, and Grandma's farm is definitely located in the outskirts of Duckburg, which in turn is definitely located in Calisota.

It doesn't say that it's our earth on which the story(s) takes place. Maybe the astronomical object shown has a diameter of only a few hundred kilometers. Then Quack Town would still be in the outskirts of Duckburg.^^