Thank you! Out of curiosity, is there any chance that you're still in contact with Dr. Pedersen? I contacted the Danish group about reading the index, but was told that it was for members-only and that I'd be better off trying to contact him
Wrote to him, explaining the project, the purposes etc... and he just sent me back the link I already posted in my previous message. Regarding the index, he said: "I made a list too, but I think it’s hand-written in Danish, I made it around 1980."
Thank you! Out of curiosity, is there any chance that you're still in contact with Dr. Pedersen? I contacted the Danish group about reading the index, but was told that it was for members-only and that I'd be better off trying to contact him
Wrote to him, explaining the project, the purposes etc... and he just sent me back the link I already posted in my previous message. Regarding the index, he said: "I made a list too, but I think it’s hand-written in Danish, I made it around 1980."
Ah, okay - thank you for asking all the same, it's much appreciated!
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In D 97365, Daisy gets in touch with her past lives in Roman Empire, the 18th century, and the Wild West. I'm assuming we don't want to keep track of these characters? These are not ancestors.
This is a really odd one - like, they're not blood relatives, presumably... but I get why you bring them up; they feel significant in a way.
Since Descendants and Adopted Relatives are on the table, I'm open to 'past lives', as odd as it is. I could add a section in the sheet if there's interest, but I'll admit that I probably wouldn't actively search for them myself.
Yeah, something like that. Not tree-worthy, but significant somehow.
Honestly, it seems pretty clear to me that Paperodlon and Roditta get together... though I can understand ignoring it as it would mean adding Brigitta and all of her family to the tree, too. Still, I feel it's important to bring up, seeing as it's a pretty clear (albeit non-concrete) link. I do think it's something that we should address, at least
Yeah, I think you are right about Roditta, and that Brigitta should indeed be added then...
I actually don't know that many relatives of Brigitta. These are the ones I am aware of:
Brigitta's niece Loretta from I TL 2309-5.
Cousin Sondra from I TL 3389-6.
Uncle Brigaldo de Dollaris from I TL 2712-2.
An aunt and uncle from I TL 2160-2 called (in German) Oberon Gulden-Gans and Gesine.
Brigitta's grandmother Brigitte Paperot from I TL 1768-A.
Brigivati, who is Brigitta's ancestor from India from I TL 2231-6. She marries a Scrooge look-a-like, who has a nephew and three grandnephews.
Honestly, it seems pretty clear to me that Paperodlon and Roditta get together... though I can understand ignoring it as it would mean adding Brigitta and all of her family to the tree, too. Still, I feel it's important to bring up, seeing as it's a pretty clear (albeit non-concrete) link. I do think it's something that we should address, at least
Yeah, I think you are right about Roditta, and that Brigitta should indeed be added then...
I actually don't know that many relatives of Brigitta. These are the ones I am aware of:
Brigitta's niece Loretta from I TL 2309-5.
Cousin Sondra from I TL 3389-6.
Uncle Brigaldo de Dollaris from I TL 2712-2.
An aunt and uncle from I TL 2160-2 called (in German) Oberon Gulden-Gans and Gesine.
Brigitta's grandmother Brigitte Paperot from I TL 1768-A.
Brigivati, who is Brigitta's ancestor from India from I TL 2231-6. She marries a Scrooge look-a-like, who has a nephew and three grandnephews.
I'll admit, Brigitta was not a character I expected we'd ever have on here
As for her relatives, there's also the ancestor named Brigida from I TL 2064-3, who is directly referred to as an ancestor of Brigitta. I've uploaded a scan of her previously when discussing the story
Also, minor note, I'll be away for the week again, starting from today - so it'll be a bit longer before I've updated the spreadsheet.
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I was wondering about 2 relatives that we have on the tree, as I am not sure if they should actually be on the tree.
One is Paperonk from I TL 1679-A. I just read the story (in German) and to me this seems just a look-a-like story in which there is nowhere said that the Scrooge look-a-like is said to be related to Scrooge. Was this removed in the German translation or is his inclusion on the tree based on another source?
The other relative I was wondering about is Don Pepito Paperon from I TL 1131-A, who we have on the tree as Pepito McDuck. I read here also the German translation, but from what I understand, is that the Scrooge look-a-like in this story is called Don Pepito Paperon in Italian. But Again, in the German translation, nothing is said about any relation to the current ducks (there is only a mention at the beginning that the story is a dream by Donald). Is it any different in the Italian original?
I don't actually know if this had already been discussed before, but I couldn't find anything about it.
Gladstone's aunt Olivia Duck made her first appearance in last week and this week Topolinos in a story by Nucci and Zanchi, which could be considered as the follow up to La solitudine del quadrifoglio. Apparently, she is waaaay more lucky than Gladstone and, when they are together, the latter is extremely unlucky. Gladstone grew up with her until she had to leave because of the unbearable situation.
Well, well, well... if this character wasn't supposed to be Daphne Duck, it would surprise me a lot. BUT, regardless of conjectures and such, here she is. Straight from Galapagos Islands. Last name is Duck, so she has to be Daphne's sister?? In one panel, we see her with Grandma Duck (her mother??), but idk... maybe she is a great-aunt instead?
Gladstone's aunt Olivia Duck made her first appearance in last week and this week Topolinos in a story by Nucci and Zanchi, which could be considered as the follow up to La solitudine del quadrifoglio. Apparently, she is waaaay more lucky than Gladstone and, when they are together, the latter is extremely unlucky. Gladstone grew up with her until she had to leave because of the unbearable situation.
Well, well, well... if this character wasn't supposed to be Daphne Duck, it would surprise me a lot. BUT, regardless of conjectures and such, here she is. Straight from Galapagos Islands. Last name is Duck, so she has to be Daphne's sister?? In one panel, we see her with Grandma Duck (her mother??), but idk... maybe she is a great-aunt instead?
Interesting. Does Donald not appear in the story? Since Olivia being a sister of Daphne, would her also make Donald's aunt to the same degree.
Gladstone also has other Duck relatives in his family, with Margaret and Dolly Duck. Is there any possibility that Olivia could be their sister? Or would the stories in which Dolly appears (or what we know about Olivia) contradict that?
And then we also already have Gladstone's cousin Disraeli Duck, who is not Donald's cousin. Somehow there are too many relatives named Duck here...
Gladstone's aunt Olivia Duck made her first appearance in last week and this week Topolinos in a story by Nucci and Zanchi, which could be considered as the follow up to La solitudine del quadrifoglio. Apparently, she is waaaay more lucky than Gladstone and, when they are together, the latter is extremely unlucky. Gladstone grew up with her until she had to leave because of the unbearable situation.
Well, well, well... if this character wasn't supposed to be Daphne Duck, it would surprise me a lot. BUT, regardless of conjectures and such, here she is. Straight from Galapagos Islands. Last name is Duck, so she has to be Daphne's sister?? In one panel, we see her with Grandma Duck (her mother??), but idk... maybe she is a great-aunt instead?
Interesting. Does Donald not appear in the story? Since Olivia being a sister of Daphne, would her also make Donald's aunt to the same degree.
Gladstone also has other Duck relatives in his family, with Margaret and Dolly Duck. Is there any possibility that Olivia could be their sister? Or would the stories in which Dolly appears (or what we know about Olivia) contradict that?
And then we also already have Gladstone's cousin Disraeli Duck, who is not Donald's cousin. Somehow there are too many relatives named Duck here...
Well, Donald, Scrooge, Fethry and Grandma all appear in a few panels with Olivia when she tells Gladstone she has been visiting all the relatives (one at the time)... so, she is generically considered part of the family. How is not said.
I'd prefer having her related to Dabney (sister or daughter) to keep things simple.
I'm back! I'll go over everything that's been posted as soon as I can, but there's something that I've been wondering about, and I now have a reason to bring it up:
Where does the tree stand on Alternate Universe stories?
Thus far, we've accepted characters from multiple sources. Some are contradictory, or are clearly not set in the same universe (Ducktales '17 being the easiest example to point to), but they all mesh together appropriately.
However, where are we standing on stories like Wizards of Mickey, Kingdom Hearts etc?
The reason I propose these two examples is because these aren't intended to be lookalikes - they are supposed to be the characters in question. The setting and backgrounds are completely different, but they're still intended to be Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck; they're not characters who happen to look just like them - for all intents and purposes, they are supposed to be Mickey and Donald.
There are at least a few relatives from this series, so I feel it's important to ask.
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I'm back! I'll go over everything that's been posted as soon as I can, but there's something that I've been wondering about, and I now have a reason to bring it up:
Where does the tree stand on Alternate Universe stories?
Thus far, we've accepted characters from multiple sources. Some are contradictory, or are clearly not set in the same universe (Ducktales '17 being the easiest example to point to), but they all mesh together appropriately.
However, where are we standing on stories like Wizards of Mickey, Kingdom Hearts etc?
The reason I propose these two examples is because these aren't intended to be lookalikes - they are supposed to be the characters in question. The setting and backgrounds are completely different, but they're still intended to be Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck; they're not characters who happen to look just like them - for all intents and purposes, they are supposed to be Mickey and Donald.
There are at least a few relatives from this series, so I feel it's important to ask.
I think it's something of judging on a case by case basis. The DuckTales reboot is basically another universe, but there are still enough similarities with the comics so we can include it. So, we include the characters, though we ignore some parts of it ("Webby is April"). As for other alternate universes, we will I think also have to see the specifics: how different is the universe, and are the family relationships contradictory or not? I am not so familiar with for example Kingdom Hearts in order to answer that now.
Well, well, well... if this character wasn't supposed to be Daphne Duck, it would surprise me a lot. BUT, regardless of conjectures and such, here she is. Straight from Galapagos Islands. Last name is Duck, so she has to be Daphne's sister?? In one panel, we see her with Grandma Duck (her mother??), but idk... maybe she is a great-aunt instead?
Second episode came out yesterday and at some point Grandma Duck flees from Olivia (with a blatantly fake excuse) because she can't stand her (Olivia says "they hate me"). It felt really weird to me as Grandma is usually kind with everyone, sometimes even with bad characters (such as Pete Woodleg or Beagle Boys), so I can't see Grandma hating a blood-related family member, let alone a daughter.
Well, well, well... if this character wasn't supposed to be Daphne Duck, it would surprise me a lot. BUT, regardless of conjectures and such, here she is. Straight from Galapagos Islands. Last name is Duck, so she has to be Daphne's sister?? In one panel, we see her with Grandma Duck (her mother??), but idk... maybe she is a great-aunt instead?
Second episode came out yesterday and at some point Grandma Duck flees from Olivia (with a blatantly fake excuse) because she can't stand her (Olivia says "they hate me"). It felt really weird to me as Grandma is usually kind with everyone, sometimes even with bad characters (such as Pete Woodleg or Beagle Boys), so I can't see Grandma hating a blood-related family member, let alone a daughter.
Yes, that's what I meant when I wrote "In one panel, we see her with Grandma Duck (her mother??), but idk... maybe she is a great-aunt instead?". I am subscribed to Topolino and received my copy on Monday.