Post by LP on Jul 21, 2024 17:44:58 GMT
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Sept 15, 2023 20:31:47 GMT LP said:
I just had a quick look at The Duck Who Never Was. The story is explicitly set on the 9th of June, and we're told it is a Thursday. In the relevant timespan, the 9th of June only falls on a Thursday in 1949 and 1955. However, Donald is already friends with Gyro in this story, and I place their friendship's starting point at 1950. Conclusion: 1949 does not work.
But, horror! 1955 doesn't work either! In Rosa's very next story, The Treasury of Croesus, the Ducks return to the Duckburg Museum. There the Genie from The Duck Who Never Was has a small cameo and references that story by recognizing and greeting Donald. Thus, Croesus must go after The Duck Who Never Was. However, Croesus can't go any later than 1952 (because of Son of the Sun, Return to Plain Awful, and A Little Something Special. Read my timeline for further clarification). Conclusion: 1955 doesn't work either.
I think it's best to ignore the "Thursday" and pretend that it is instead Friday (1950), Saturday (1951), or Monday (1952) instead.
On a side note – just because I find it an amusing little fact that I remember noticing - „Croesus“ can not be set before 6 February 1952, because it mentions a female Queen of England (at least if the Rosaverse is identical to our universe in that respect).
I think the inconsistency that nagged me the most back then, because it was just impossible to solve, was that in „His Majesty McDuck“, the Cornelius Coot statue says „Erected in 1952“ (at least in my edition), but according to „Gyro’s First Invention“ it must have been built the year before.
Somewhere in this thread someone mentioned how excruciating it is for just one person to go through every single story and look for all the references. I had it easier because I had a cheat sheet, so to speak – I own the German „Don Rosa Collection“, a complete edition of all of Rosa’s stories that includes a list of Barks and Rosa references for every single story (of course there’s still the possibility that the editors missed some references). Now that my interest in a timeline has been rekindled, I have gone through the Collection again. I filtered out references that don’t necessarily imply that the Barks story has taken place (for example, just because the peaks in the Duckburg skyline in „Cash Flow“ have been taken from Barks, that doesn’t mean that the stories in which they appeared must have taken place in the Rosaverse – whereas the Beagle Boys recognizing the Professor in the same story does indeed mean that „The Mysterious Stone Ray“ must have taken place). Through this process, I have compiled a list of 45 Barks stories that must have happened in the Rosaverse. If you guys are interested, I can share that list with you, and also which Barks story is referenced in which Rosa story.
As I said, my interest has been rekindled, so I will now start to work on a TL again.
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A Little Something Special has to be placed in 1952, since it is explicitly set 50 years after Scrooge's arrival in Duckburg (which according to Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck #10 occurred in 1902).
In A Little Something Special, a random citizen suggests "a hen and rooster from Plain Awful" as a gift for Scrooge, which sets the story after Return to Plain Awful, in which it becomes common knowledge that Scrooge travels to Plain Awful to acquire square eggs.
Return to Plain Awful is explicitly the second time Scrooge faces off with Flintheart Glomgold in Peru, with Son of the Sun being the first.
Scrooge's exhibit in Son of the Sun includes a portion of the treasure of King Croesus, which Scrooge found in The Treasury of Croesus.
Finally, The Duck Who Never Was has a genie transport Donald into an alternate reality in which he never existed. Donald is then returned to his own reality with no memory of the adventure. However, this same genie appears in The Treasury of Croesus, tipping his hat to Donald. However, Donald is confused as he doesn't remember the events of The Duck Who Never Was.
In summary, the sequence would go The Duck Who Never Was --> The Treasury of Croesus --> Son of the Sun --> Return to Plain Awful --> A Little Something Special. Hopefully that all makes sense. But then there's Guardians of the Lost Library, in which Scrooge has not yet found Croesus' treasure. Also, it has a reference to the current year being 1952, setting all of the relevant stories in 1952. For reasons stated in a previous post, The Duck Who Never Was cannot take place in or before 1952.
I also noticed the Cornelius Coot statue reading "erected in 1952" and it bothered me too! However, my timeline has Statuesque Spendthrifts taking place in 1949 rather than 1951 or 1952.
It's funny how you mention the mountains in Cash Flow as a timeline reference. The one named Needle Hill has a house on it, and the original story in which that mountain appears (Searching for a Successor) ends with the house being moved from Needle Hill to Snag Hill. Thus, Cash Flow has to take place before Searching for a Successor.
Anyways, please do share your list of the 45 Barks stories! Also, I hope you somehow manage to view my timeline. I'd love to get some feedback! Any input is always welcome!
Return to Plain Awful is explicitly the second time Scrooge faces off with Flintheart Glomgold in Peru, with Son of the Sun being the first.
Scrooge's exhibit in Son of the Sun includes a portion of the treasure of King Croesus, which Scrooge found in The Treasury of Croesus.
Finally, The Duck Who Never Was has a genie transport Donald into an alternate reality in which he never existed. Donald is then returned to his own reality with no memory of the adventure. However, this same genie appears in The Treasury of Croesus, tipping his hat to Donald. However, Donald is confused as he doesn't remember the events of The Duck Who Never Was.
In summary, the sequence would go The Duck Who Never Was --> The Treasury of Croesus --> Son of the Sun --> Return to Plain Awful --> A Little Something Special. Hopefully that all makes sense. But then there's Guardians of the Lost Library, in which Scrooge has not yet found Croesus' treasure. Also, it has a reference to the current year being 1952, setting all of the relevant stories in 1952. For reasons stated in a previous post, The Duck Who Never Was cannot take place in or before 1952.
I also noticed the Cornelius Coot statue reading "erected in 1952" and it bothered me too! However, my timeline has Statuesque Spendthrifts taking place in 1949 rather than 1951 or 1952.
It's funny how you mention the mountains in Cash Flow as a timeline reference. The one named Needle Hill has a house on it, and the original story in which that mountain appears (Searching for a Successor) ends with the house being moved from Needle Hill to Snag Hill. Thus, Cash Flow has to take place before Searching for a Successor.
Anyways, please do share your list of the 45 Barks stories! Also, I hope you somehow manage to view my timeline. I'd love to get some feedback! Any input is always welcome!