Who do you see as the showrunners for each Afternoon show?

[donalddisneyfan]

I am a bit confused on who would be considered as the showrunners for each of the Disney Afternoon era shows. I mean nowadays, Disney just puts the showrunner's names in the intro or has an obvious executive producer credit that covers showrunners.

For the Disney Afternoon era though, they didn't put the showrunner names in the intro and there is no executive producer credits, only supervising producer and producer credit.

I mean from the credits, we only get producer and supervising producer credits which give:

• The Wuzzles gives Fred Wolf as producer in these credits: www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0gVEv5gQuk
• Gummi Bears gives Art Vitello for seasons 1-2, Tad Stones and Alan Zaslove in season 3, David Block, Rich Fogel, and Mark Seidenberg in seasons 4-6
• DuckTales 1987 gives Fred Wolf for supervising producer in season 1, and Bob Hathcock as supervising producer with Ken Koonce and David Weimers as producers in seasons 2-4
• New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh gives Kerl Guers as producer
• Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers gives Tad Stones and Alan Zaslove as producers
• TaleSpin gives Jymn Magon as supervising producer and Robert Taylor as producer
• Darkwing Duck gives Tad Stones and Alan Zaslove as supervising producers
• Goof Troop gives Robert Taylor as supervising producer
• The Little Mermaid 1992 gives Jamie Mitchell as producer
• Raw Toonage gives Larry Latham as supervising producer
• Bonkers gives Robert Taylor as producer for the Lucky Piquel episodes and Bob Hathcock as supervising producer and David Block as producer for the Miranda Wright episodes
• Marsupilami gives Ed Wexler as director/producer
• Aladdin the Series gives Tad Stones and Alan Zaslove as producers
• Gargoyles gives Greg Weisman and Frank Paur as supervising producers in seasons 1-2 and Scott Thomas for season 3
• The Shnookums & Meat Funny Cartoon Show gives no producer credit from what I found, but the press kit mentions Bill Kopp and Jeff DeGandis as the showrunners/creators: archive.org/details/shnookumsandmeatmodelpack/page/n1/mode/2up
• Timon and Pumbaa gives Tony Craig and Bobs Ganaway as producers in seasons 1-2 and gives executive producer credits in season 3 to Tedd Anasti and Patsy Cameron (finding it crazy Chris Bartleman and Blair Peters are credited as producers in season 3, given they went on to found Studio B Productions which became DHX Media which produced MLP Friendship is Magic)
• Quack Pack gives Toby Shelton and Kevin Crosby Hopps as producers
• Mighty Ducks the Animated Series gives Joe Barruso as supervising producer

Weirder how Jymn Magon's Linkedin mentions Gummi Bears as a show he developed like Rescue Rangers and Tail Spin (

), dunno if that means he was the showrunner for that or not?

Heck with how it seems Jymn Magon's involvement on DuckTales 1987 was just as a writer and story editor capacity rather than producing despite people saying he's the showrunner, it makes me confused if it's Jymn Magon or Fred Wolf (season 1)/Bob Hathcock (seasons 2-4) who are the showrunners?

So I am wondering, how do you all figure out who was the showrunner for each of these Disney Afternoon era shows? Do you use the supervising producer credit or the producer credit? Or something else entirely?

[djnyr]

The term "showrunner" didn't exist back in those days. This interview with Magon might be helpful in terms of figuring out who was primarily responsible for which shows:

www.rediscoverthe80s.com/2017/09/interview-with-jymn-magon-from-80s-disney-animation.html

In a nutshell, he mentions that Tedd Anasti and Patsy Cameron were hired to "develop and edit" Ducktales and that he was only brought on to that show when it was up and running; he wound up story-editing about a quarter of the series. Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers "belonged primarily to Tad Stones", and the Pooh series belonged to Karl Geurs and Mark Zaslove. Magon was primarily responsible for developing and overseeing Gummi Bears, and (with Mark Zaslove) Talespin. Magon also did a good deal of story-editing on Goof Troop, but he doesn't mention being involved in its development, as opposed to Talespin.  Darkwing isn't discussed, but I know from other sources that Tad Stones was the guiding hand on that show.

[donalddisneyfan]

Aug 29, 2023 23:40:24 GMT djnyr said:

The term "showrunner" didn't exist back in those days. This interview with Magon might be helpful in terms of figuring out who was primarily responsible for which shows:

www.rediscoverthe80s.com/2017/09/interview-with-jymn-magon-from-80s-disney-animation.html

In a nutshell, he mentions that Tedd Anasti and Patsy Cameron were hired to "develop and edit" Ducktales and that he was only brought on to that show when it was up and running; he wound up story-editing about a quarter of the series. Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers "belonged primarily to Tad Stones", and the Pooh series belonged to Karl Geurs and Mark Zaslove. Magon was primarily responsible for developing and overseeing Gummi Bears, and (with Mark Zaslove) Talespin. Magon also did a good deal of story-editing on Goof Troop, but he doesn't mentioned being involved in its development, as opposed to Talespin.  Darkwing isn't discussed, but I know from other sources that Tad Stones was the guiding hand on that show.

Thanks for that article.

Interesting to know about Tedd Anasti and Patsy Cameron being the showrunners for DuckTales 1987 (or at least season 1 since their writing credits for that show only were in that season).

I also dug up a tweet by Tad Stones that reveals indeed that Gummi Bears' creators were Magon and Art Vitello:

Granted the article you linked also mentions Magon apparently left Gummi Bears (or at least stepped down as a showrunner) when he joined DuckTales 1987 meaning he likely stepped down after season 2 (Art Vitello's name also stopped showing up around that time too) so dunno who ran seasons 3-6. I can maybe guess Tad Stones and Alan Zaslove ran season 3 and  David Block, Rich Fogel, and Mark Seidenberg ran seasons 4-6 based on the producer credits.

Tad also does mention Alan Zaslove as his partner so maybe Tad and Alan were a duo for their Disney Afternoon shows:

I have dug up some old interviews from Michael Peraza Jr on Goof Troop and Toby Shelton on Quack Pack here:

michaelperaza.blogspot.com/2010/09/goofy-troopers-part-1-by-mike-peraza.html
michaelperaza.blogspot.com/2010/09/goofy-troopers-part-2-by-mike-peraza.html
tobyshelton.blogspot.com/2011/01/huey-dewey-louie-model-sheets-quack.html

In a nutshell from those, seems Michael Peraza Jr and Robert Taylor were the Goof Troop showrunners and Toby Shelton and Kevin Crosby Hopps were the showrunners for Quack Pack at least.

[donaldistducktoons]

Aug 29, 2023 4:46:02 GMT donalddisneyfan said:

I am a bit confused on who would be considered as the showrunners for each of the Disney Afternoon era shows. I mean nowadays, Disney just puts the showrunner's names in the intro or has an obvious executive producer credit that covers showrunners.

For the Disney Afternoon era though, they didn't put the showrunner names in the intro and there is no executive producer credits, only supervising producer and producer credit.

I mean from the credits, we only get producer and supervising producer credits which give:

• The Wuzzles gives Fred Wolf as producer in these credits: www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0gVEv5gQuk
• Gummi Bears gives Art Vitello for seasons 1-2, Tad Stones and Alan Zaslove in season 3, David Block, Rich Fogel, and Mark Seidenberg in seasons 4-6
• DuckTales 1987 gives Fred Wolf for supervising producer in season 1, and Bob Hathcock as supervising producer with Ken Koonce and David Weimers as producers in seasons 2-4
• New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh gives Kerl Guers as producer
• Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers gives Tad Stones and Alan Zaslove as producers
• TaleSpin gives Jymn Magon as supervising producer and Robert Taylor as producer
• Darkwing Duck gives Tad Stones and Alan Zaslove as supervising producers
• Goof Troop gives Robert Taylor as supervising producer
• The Little Mermaid 1992 gives Jamie Mitchell as producer
• Raw Toonage gives Larry Latham as supervising producer
• Bonkers gives Robert Taylor as producer for the Lucky Piquel episodes and Bob Hathcock as supervising producer and David Block as producer for the Miranda Wright episodes
• Marsupilami gives Ed Wexler as director/producer
• Aladdin the Series gives Tad Stones and Alan Zaslove as producers
• Gargoyles gives Greg Weisman and Frank Paur as supervising producers in seasons 1-2 and Scott Thomas for season 3
• The Shnookums & Meat Funny Cartoon Show gives no producer credit from what I found, but the press kit mentions Bill Kopp and Jeff DeGandis as the showrunners/creators: archive.org/details/shnookumsandmeatmodelpack/page/n1/mode/2up
• Timon and Pumbaa gives Tony Craig and Bobs Ganaway as producers in seasons 1-2 and gives executive producer credits in season 3 to Tedd Anasti and Patsy Cameron (finding it crazy Chris Bartleman and Blair Peters are credited as producers in season 3, given they went on to found Studio B Productions which became DHX Media which produced MLP Friendship is Magic)
• Quack Pack gives Toby Shelton and Kevin Crosby Hopps as producers
• Mighty Ducks the Animated Series gives Joe Barruso as supervising producer

Weirder how Jymn Magon's Linkedin mentions Gummi Bears as a show he developed like Rescue Rangers and Tail Spin (

), dunno if that means he was the showrunner for that or not?

Heck with how it seems Jymn Magon's involvement on DuckTales 1987 was just as a writer and story editor capacity rather than producing despite people saying he's the showrunner, it makes me confused if it's Jymn Magon or Fred Wolf (season 1)/Bob Hathcock (seasons 2-4) who are the showrunners?

So I am wondering, how do you all figure out who was the showrunner for each of these Disney Afternoon era shows? Do you use the supervising producer credit or the producer credit? Or something else entirely?

Interesting, though I wonder how Disney got the rights to Marsupillami.

[Mesterius]

Sept 9, 2023 13:34:36 GMT donaldistducktoons said:

Interesting, though I wonder how Disney got the rights to Marsupillami.

Simple. They licensed Marsupilami from the Belgian rightholder at the time. Disney never owned the Marsupilami character, and still doesn't. They only (for a while in the 1990s) held the rights to do animated cartoons featuring him.

Disney's fling with Marsupilami actually ended with the Belgian rightholder suing them for breach of contract, as they felt Disney had severely underutilized the character. Marsu was part of Raw Toonage, but he never got a full-fledged animated show from Disney as the plan had been from the start.

Since then, several animated TV shows with Marsupilami have been produced in France, right up to the present day.

[napoleondecheese]

I found the Marsupilami French animated shows rather lackluster. The character started and peaked as a part of the Spirou cast.

[donaldistducktoons]

Sept 9, 2023 16:49:52 GMT Mesterius said:

Sept 9, 2023 13:34:36 GMT donaldistducktoons said:

Interesting, though I wonder how Disney got the rights to Marsupillami.

Simple. They licensed Marsupilami from the Belgian rightholder at the time. Disney never owned the Marsupilami character, and still doesn't. They only (for a while in the 1990s) held the rights to do animated cartoons featuring him.

Disney's fling with Marsupilami actually ended with the Belgian rightholder suing them for breach of contract, as they felt Disney had severely underutilized the character. Marsu was part of Raw Toonage, but he never got a full-fledged animated show from Disney as the plan had been from the start.

Since then, several animated TV shows with Marsupilami have been produced in France, right up to the present day.

Thanks for the explanation. Always preferred how the French did it via Marathon Media rather than how Disney did it. It was more Marsupilami to me than Disney. Although I always find it nice that Marsupilami was originally part of Spirou magazine, that is, it appeared in Spirou & Fantasio comics and was created by the same author, André Franquin. Yes, I have watched almost all the Marsupilami animated series and I liked them, each in their own way, although the first version from 2000 is my favorite.