I feel kind of disappointed to see Goldie in the main character list
Well, in the original series they used her in four episodes plus two episodes showing statues of her: I guess this would be enough for her to qualify as a minor recurring character. Maybe they will also do the same in the new series?
And why don't they name their OC 'Bill Beaks'? Afraid of annoying Bill Gates XD?
I think the real question would be: if they wanted to have another recurring rival billionaire for Scrooge in addition to Glomgold, and if said billionaire was supposed to be younger than them... then why didn't they use Rockerduck?
Post by Baar Baar Jinx on Jun 8, 2017 17:39:28 GMT
So Donald and Scrooge were buddies and fellow adventurers once, but something happened that estranged them? They are clearly not following the Rosa timeline then, contrary to the impression the trailer gave me. I wonder what "family secret" came in between them, something about Donald's parents? Maybe Scrooge ordered a hit on them because they were investigating his corrupt business practices, and Donald found out?
Donald moves the whole family in with Scrooge, himself included? Strange idea. Did Donald get evicted? His last-minute pleas to the bank fell through? Is that why he was in a suit in what will presumably be the pilot?
The character designs rankle. Gyro looks awful. Gladstone looks ... okay, but there was really no reason to make the changes they made (large eyes, chest hair, no spats). The Beagle Boys look terrible (are they all going to be identical or not? Can't tell with the single image).
Is that the way Goldie looks in the present? She's supposed to be a contemporary to Scrooge ... this character looks much younger. I agree that making her a constant presence in Scrooge's life, rather than a part of his past, violates the character's spirits and origins. Also, how could they still have met in the "gold rush" days if the show is set in the present?
EDIT: Agree about Rockerduck, the character "Mark Beaks" seems like a stand-in for him. I guess they thought younger audiences wouldn't get the Rockefeller reference.
Post by Scrooge MacDuck on Jun 8, 2017 18:11:22 GMT
I am hating this reboot more and more. Gyro is "manic"? No he's not! Scrooge is not gold-obsessed? COME ON! Glomgold is an overweight in-universe knock-off of Scrooge? NO HE IS NOT! HIS ENTIRE POINT IS THAT HE'S EVERY BIT LIKE SCROOGE, EXCEPT EVIL! If you wanted to do this type of character, either take Rockerduck, or just make up someone new. Gladstone's design rubs me the wrong way for some reason. This Goldie… could be interesting; though I'm still angry at the changes, I think I could get behind the new character, whereas I doubt I'll like the new Glomgold at all.
I have trouble seeing the video: can anyone post a picture of Scrooge's parents?
Sure. Observe:
(Sigh… and now Downy also has beak-connecting eyes. Can't they ever get this right? Gladstone and Downy suddenly have 'em, while Goldie loses them. It's weird and pointless and confusing!)
(Sigh… and now Downy also has beak-connecting eyes. Can't they ever get this right? Gladstone and Downy suddenly have 'em, while Goldie loses them. It's weird and pointless and confusing!)
True, but the depiction of Scrooge's parents is still reasonably Rosa-esque. They are departing dramatically from the comics, character design-wise, in some cases (Gladstone, Gyro, Beagle Boys, Glomgold) and are being comparatively faithful in others; Scrooge and Donald look more like their comics counterparts than they did in the original series (well, waist up, anyway). I wonder if there's more than one team involved in character design?
Re: "I think the real question would be: if they wanted to have another recurring rival billionaire for Scrooge in addition to Glomgold, and if said billionaire was supposed to be younger than them... then why didn't they use Rockerduck?"
It's a good thing that they didn't choose to alter another character's personality. We all have the same feeling on Glomgold.
I think the real question would be: if they wanted to have another recurring rival billionaire for Scrooge in addition to Glomgold, and if said billionaire was supposed to be younger than them... then why didn't they use Rockerduck?
[/quote] It's a good thing that they didn't choose to alter another character's personality. We all have the same feeling on Glomgold.[/quote]
Barks' Rockerduck wasn't much younger than scrooge and Glomgold. And he was based on John D. Rockefeller, who wouldn't have been much younger than someone from Scrooge's supposed time.
I'm much more positive on this than those of you who have posted so far. I've always thought of DuckTales as an alternate universe with only approximate versions of many of the same characters I know from the comics. The fact that the makers of this DuckTales have far more knowledge of and respect for the comics (especially Barks and Rosa) than the makers of the original DuckTales doesn't mean that they're going to make their show an animated version of the comics. I'm happy if it reflects aspects of the comics that I love in ways that DT1 did not, but at the same time I'm cool with them going their own way.
I agree that changing the eyes on characters is distracting to those of us who know the comics characters well. But the redesign of Gladstone, for instance, makes perfect sense to me. Spats? Who wears spats? Let him be contemporary. His hair style does a good job of keeping the curly locks and the "dandy" feel in a contemporary mode.
Of course I like the comics design of characters such as Gyro better than the new one--I've loved that character in the comics design since I before I was in kindergarten. But I'm OK with their redesigns, on the whole. In a way, the DT1 design of Gyro may have bothered me more just because it was closer, but still not right! Too juvenile.
And Minotaur, it doesn't really sound to me like Scrooge is going to get true love with Goldie, even if she's a continuing character. I wouldn't worry about Scrooge having it all. If they follow in the path of "Ducky Mountain High," they can keep the flame of mutual attraction alive without letting them develop a romantic relationship.
I do hope the Goldie shown is a flashback to the past, though, and that the current Goldie will be old-yet-powerful. Popular culture needs more attractive, powerful old women! As it also needs girls who aren't pinkcute, so yay, new Webby.
Creating a techie billionaire makes sense to me, too, in a Duckburg set in the present. And I'd rather they create a new character for that role than recast a familiar one.
Giving the nephews distinct personalities *based on their birth order* feels pretty stupid to me, though. Indeed, the typical birth order differences they describe are dependent on there being age differences in the years rather than the minutes. (You have to experience being the Only One consciously in order to be dethroned by the Next One!) It is my understanding that when multiples do take on some of the typical "birth order" characteristics, that is a result of others' projection. (Parents of twins are *often* asked "Which is the older?" as if that mattered.) Ah well, could be worse, and we know it has been much worse (Quack Pack). I do have an observation on birth order in twins: in Italy, I was told in the 1970's by an Italian physician who is an identical twin, the assumed relative age of twins is the opposite of what we assume. We say the one born first is older, whereas in Italy, he told me, the second born is legally considered the elder, on the pre-scientific "first in, last out" principle! As if that fertilized egg had been shoved to the far end of the womb by the second one. Can any of you folks verify this? Googling is no help on this vital issue of cross-cultural understanding.
And Minotaur, it doesn't really sound to me like Scrooge is going to get true love with Goldie, even if she's a continuing character. I wouldn't worry about Scrooge having it all. If they follow in the path of "Ducky Mountain High," they can keep the flame of mutual attraction alive without letting them develop a romantic relationship.
I do hope the Goldie shown is a flashback to the past, though, and that the current Goldie will be old-yet-powerful. Popular culture needs more attractive, powerful old women! As it also needs girls who aren't pinkcute, so yay, new Webby.
Yeah, I got the main message. But that still sounds too sweet to me. Besides, considering that they have known each other for around 50 years, that also seems immature.
Ooooph that's a lot of changes. I'm having to make an active effort to go "it's ok, let them do their own show", since I still trust it'll be a good show, just really nothing much like the ducks I'm used to.
Biggest loss here for me is Glomgold. All the other design changes I can get used to, and to be honest, I think Gladstone and Lil'Bulb (according to Angones, the name for Gyro's Little Helper) look actively better than in the comics! Ok, sure, maybe I'd give Gladstone the tiny eyes again, but italian comics already give him Donald-like eyes sometimes so I'm used to it, didn't even notice to be honest.
I'd imagine Rockerduck wasn't used for the new millionnaire spot since it seems the idea is he's a good fella (he's one of us etc etc) instead of a villain or antagonist, which is what Rockerduck'd be.
Looks interesting. After the original DuckTales, I stopped expecting animated Ducks to be anything even close to the comics. As long as they tell a good story and don't totally alienate long time fans, I'll be happy. The birthday short was fun.
Barks' Rockerduck wasn't much younger than scrooge and Glomgold. And he was based on John D. Rockefeller, who wouldn't have been much younger than someone from Scrooge's supposed time.
I agree that Barks' Rockerduck, for the little we saw of him, doesn't look much younger than Scrooge. That's why I like Rosa's idea of making him only about 11-12 years younger than Scrooge, rather than the Italian idea that he is much younger (looking like in his 50's at most).
Regardless of the age issue, my point still stands: if they wanted another rival billionaire, they could have used Rockerduck.
Ok, sure, maybe I'd give Gladstone the tiny eyes again, but italian comics already give him Donald-like eyes sometimes so I'm used to it, didn't even notice to be honest.
Italian comics gave him Donald-like eyes? I never noticed that. Can you list some examples?
Barks' Rockerduck wasn't much younger than scrooge and Glomgold. And he was based on John D. Rockefeller, who wouldn't have been much younger than someone from Scrooge's supposed time.
I agree that Barks' Rockerduck, for the little we saw of him, doesn't look much younger than Scrooge. That's why I like Rosa's idea of making him only about 11-12 years younger than Scrooge, rather than the Italian idea that he is much younger (looking like in his 50's at most).
Regardless of the age issue, my point still stands: if they wanted another rival billionaire, they could have used Rockerduck.
Ok, sure, maybe I'd give Gladstone the tiny eyes again, but italian comics already give him Donald-like eyes sometimes so I'm used to it, didn't even notice to be honest.
Italian comics gave him Donald-like eyes? I never noticed that. Can you list some examples?
Yes, that's about how old I guessed him, - 10-13 years younger than Scrooge and Glomgold. But as I see it, The New DuckTales wanted more than just a 3rd Billionaire rival. They wanted one to be a young technocrat from Silicon Valley (a Bill Gates parody, perhaps?)