A neat address find: the Three Little Pigs

[Scrooge MacDuck]

On a neat animated-comic-thing called Cybernetiquette available on the Australian Disney website, I've come across a neat little find: per this comic, the Three Little Pigs' address is 1122, Oink Terrace, Pigtown, U.S.A. Who knew? It seems a little odd that the Pigs would live in a city large enough to have a street number 1122, but…

[drleevezan]

May 19, 2018 22:20:50 GMT Scrooge MacDuck said:

On a neat animated-comic-thing called Cybernetiquette available on the Australian Disney website, I've come across a neat little find: per this comic, the Three Little Pigs' address is 1122, Oink Terrace, Pigtown, U.S.A. Who knew? It seems a little odd that the Pigs would live in a city large enough to have a street number 1122, but…

Well, assuming the entire inhabited area of the Black Forest near Duckburg is called Pigtown, there might be enough. Hard to say. (oh, and there's a typo in the thread title, you wrote "neet" instead of "neat"). Anyway, that is interesting. I hadn't caught it myself when viewing that comic.

[RobbK1]

May 19, 2018 22:20:50 GMT Scrooge MacDuck said:

On a neat animated-comic-thing called Cybernetiquette available on the Australian Disney website, I've come across a neat little find: per this comic, the Three Little Pigs' address is 1122, Oink Terrace, Pigtown, U.S.A. Who knew? It seems a little odd that the Pigs would live in a city large enough to have a street number 1122, but…

 Addresses in USA are 100 times as large in number as they are in Europe, as each streets block of plots between streets is generally assigned 100 numbers.  For example building addresses on the west side of Quack Street would be assigned odd numbers between 101 and 199, between the city's centre line meridian street that divides the city in half, north from south.  The east side of that north/south oriented street, would have even numbers between.  The first block north of "Centre Street", or Central Avenue, would be assigned 100 to 199 north.  The first block south would be assigned 100 to 199 south.  The second block both north and south of that line would be assigned 200-299 north and 200-299 south.  Again, the odd numbers would be located on the west side, and the even on the east.  The same system would be used on east/west oriented streets (like the north/south dividing line (Central Avenue, or Centre Street).  In that case, the first block just west of the east/west meridian line would go from 100-199 west, and first east, from 100-199 east, and so on. 

Therefore, 1122 Oink Terrace would be located only 11 blocks (streets) from Pigtown's centre.  That could easily be a small town of 1,000 to 4,000 people, if The Three Pigs lived on the edge of their town.  With the "town" suffix on the end of Pigtown, it is likely that the town is too large to be a village.  Therefore, it should have a population from 3,000 to 20,000 or so.  However, in the comic books and children's storybooks, The Three Pig's (Practical Pig's) brick house is located in a rural, or semi rural area, which would either be on the very outer edge of a small town, or the edge of a village.

In USA and Canada, a population centre large enough to be called "a big city" would need to be at the very least 12 miles long, which would result in addresses of a minimum of 6000 north, south, east or west.  Los Angeles has streets with addresses higher than 28000.  The numbered streets go as high as 243rd Street.  That would make it 243 streets south of Los Angeles' north/south center line street.  Street numbers go about 280 streets west.  The Los Angeles Metropolitan Area would cover almost the entire nation of The Netherlands (from the far northwest of The Zuider Zee Dike, to Maastricht.  The City of Los Angeles alone (without suburbs) would perhaps cover half of the country.  So, you see that the paltry total of 11 streets in Pigtown wouldn't make Pigtown a big city, or even a small CITY.  It MIGHT be a place big enough to be called a medium sized town. 

[Scrooge MacDuck]

May 20, 2018 3:56:37 GMT RobbK1 said:

Therefore, 1122 Oink Terrace would be located only 11 blocks (streets) from Pigtown's centre.  That could easily be a small town of 1,000 to 4,000 people, if The Three Pigs lived on the edge of their town.  With the "town" suffix on the end of Pigtown, it is likely that the town is too large to be a village.  Therefore, it should have a population from 3,000 to 20,000 or so.  However, in the comic books and children's storybooks, The Three Pig's (Practical Pig's) brick house is located in a rural, or semi rural area, which would either be on the very outer edge of a small town, or the edge of a village. 

Yes, this is all very interesting, but even 1,000 still seems way too much for the Pigtown usually seen in the comics and cartoons. The pigs' village hardly looks like it has streets at all, and I would be surprised if it had over a hundred inhabitants.

[RobbK1]

May 20, 2018 8:45:36 GMT Scrooge MacDuck said:

May 20, 2018 3:56:37 GMT RobbK1 said:

Therefore, 1122 Oink Terrace would be located only 11 blocks (streets) from Pigtown's centre.  That could easily be a small town of 1,000 to 4,000 people, if The Three Pigs lived on the edge of their town.  With the "town" suffix on the end of Pigtown, it is likely that the town is too large to be a village.  Therefore, it should have a population from 3,000 to 20,000 or so.  However, in the comic books and children's storybooks, The Three Pig's (Practical Pig's) brick house is located in a rural, or semi rural area, which would either be on the very outer edge of a small town, or the edge of a village. 

Yes, this is all very interesting, but even 1,000 still seems way too much for the Pigtown usually seen in the comics and cartoons. The pigs' village hardly looks like it has streets at all, and I would be surprised if it had over a hundred inhabitants.

You have a good point here.  When we see The Pigs' house, it doesn't even have neighbouring houses.  So, we would be hard pressed to even call it a village.

[Ramapith]

Bingo! The older Brer Rabbit Sunday strips and Gil Turner Wolf stories refer to the Wolves' and Brers' forest neighborhood as the "settlement," indeed suggesting something smaller than a village.

While I know and like Disney's Three Pigs "Cybernetiquette" online game, it renames the Pigs themselves as Strawman, Woody, and Brickster, so it's not exactly faithful to any preexisting canon... (which is a blessing as well as a curse: it warms my heart to see a "bad ending" in which Zeke has apparently eaten the Pigs!)

[drleevezan]

May 20, 2018 19:38:11 GMT Ramapith said:

Bingo! The older Brer Rabbit Sunday strips and Gil Turner Wolf stories refer to the Wolves' and Brers' forest neighborhood as the "settlement," indeed suggesting something smaller than a village.

While I know and like Disney's Three Pigs "Cybernetiquette" online game, it renames the Pigs themselves as Strawman, Woody, and Brickster, so it's not exactly faithful to any preexisting canon... (which is a blessing as well as a curse: it warms my heart to see a "bad ending" in which Zeke has apparently eaten the Pigs!)

Hmm... You say you know the Cybernetiquette series. I wonder, do you have any idea if the third one ("Web Mania") can be found anywhere anymore? Probably not, as it seems to be gone completely, but you never know.

[Ramapith]

May 20, 2018 21:28:19 GMT drleevezan said:

Hmm... You say you know the Cybernetiquette series. I wonder, do you have any idea if the third one ("Web Mania") can be found anywhere anymore? Probably not, as it seems to be gone completely, but you never know.

Amazingly, it's HERE. (I don't think archive.org saves many versions of Disney's official pages, but an ancient version of their British page is still up...)

[drleevezan]

May 21, 2018 1:47:46 GMT Ramapith said:

May 20, 2018 21:28:19 GMT drleevezan said:

Hmm... You say you know the Cybernetiquette series. I wonder, do you have any idea if the third one ("Web Mania") can be found anywhere anymore? Probably not, as it seems to be gone completely, but you never know.

Amazingly, it's HERE. (I don't think archive.org saves many versions of Disney's official pages, but an ancient version of their British page is still up...)

Thanks!