Felicity Fieldmouse vs. Amalia Fieldmouse

[Scrooge MacDuck]

I have no relevant authority on the Disney Wiki, but on these grounds, I shall rename the $crooge McDuck Wiki's page to "Amely" instead of "Amelia". The notes of "Felicity" and "Amelia" will remain, as they always did. 

Oct 27, 2018 23:35:05 GMT The KKM said:

Way things are going we're going to have to end up making a Feathery Society-sponsored wikia or something. Although sadly it'll never get as big as the Disney one.

I fear that would not go very far. I tried getting help for the Scrooge McDuck Wiki on here and there was very little interested.

[Scroogerello]

Oct 28, 2018 1:16:10 GMT Ramapith said:

Amely Mouse-Fieldmouse is the internal Disney studio name today, and may represent their own Americanization of "Amalia." I referenced it in my current history book with JB Kaufman, if only to clarify that Disney nowadays has an official name. (In the 1990s, I was as guilty of propagating "Amelia Fieldmouse" as anyone...)

For whatever it's worth, the "Paul Halas character" isn't Halas' alone; she was really the work of Halas, artist Paco Rodriguez, and editor Lars Bergström at Egmont—all of whom began work by looking at the 1932 Gottfredson design and proposing various ways of modernizing her, so she wasn't even intended as entirely new. The name Felicity was created for her at that time, but only ended up being used in this story (which, if I were to publish it domestically, might use the name Amely now, as it's more established in official American publications).

According to this article: www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mickey-mouse-sister_us_55a905dee4b0c5f0322d08bb, Rodriguez told the Huffington post that Halas created the character on his own, so that's why I credited him with creating the character. Rodriguez also said he was unsure whether Gottfredson's Mrs Fieldmouse had anything to do with Halas' Felicity, but I suppose he could have gotten instructions on how to design the character without knowing the source material.

In any case, thanks for clarifying everything. I assume the administrators won't let me use the book as a source before it comes out, but as soon as it does I'll try to change the name of the article...again!    If I'm correct, that makes two sources for "Amely"--that should be more than enough to warrant an article name change, although I don't know what Disney Wiki (alias the Fanon Wiki) is gonna say about that.

Although still, I must say that I find it odd that Halas' name wasn't adhered to. For all intents and puposes, he (along with Bergström and Rodriguez) created Mickey's sister, even if they were inspired my the old "Mrs Fieldmouse lady from Gottfredson's strip, who is clearly not related to Mickey (imagine calling your own sibling Mr. or Mrs.!) so it seems only reasonable that Halas also should have had the right to name the character.

In the end, Amelia, Amely or Felicity all sound perectly fine to me, but's nice that's there's finally some official confirmation for "Amely". Personally, my favorite name for the character is the Dutch one--"Mona", as it fits quite well with both "Mouse and "Fieldmouse". And, by the way, shows you that even in the Netherlands that "Amalia" line didn't stick!

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Oct 28, 2018 11:37:35 GMT Scroogerello said:

who is clearly not related to Mickey (imagine calling your own sibling Mr. or Mrs.!)

Not that I'm arguing Gottfredson did mean for Mrs Fieldmouse to be Mickey's siter, but I have an explanation for that one. I think it was a sort of in-joke between Mickey and his sister that he called her "Mrs Fieldmouse" after her marriage, and she kind of complained because it made her sound old and stuffy and he kept at it for fun's sake. A mirror to Donald's "Dumbella" moniker for Della, if you will (note how Della was "in on it" enough by the time of Donald's Nephews that she signed a letter with that name).

I wasn't aware of the new information, but perhaps the fact that she eventually changed her name to Mouse-Fieldmouse is related to that. 

For the record, the Amelia->Amely change has been implemented over on the $crooge McDuck Wiki. 

[LP]

Maybe the original Mrs Fieldmouse could be retconned into being an separate character: Frank Fieldmouse's mother, the twins' paternal grandmother? Then it would make sense that Mickey calls her "Mrs. Fieldmouse", seeing as she would be his sister's mother-in-law.

This is of course just fan speculation.

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Some people have theorized to this effect, though I don't really like to think of it that way.

[RobbK1]

Oct 28, 2018 17:17:14 GMT LP said:

Maybe the original Mrs Fieldmouse could be retconned into being an separate character: Frank Fieldmouse's mother, the twins' paternal grandmother? Then it would make sense that Mickey calls her "Mrs. Fieldmouse", seeing as she would be his sister's mother-in-law.

This is of course just fan speculation.

That's what I always assumed, as she looked too old to be Morty amd Ferdie's mother.  I also mentioned that above, in this thread.

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Oct 28, 2018 17:31:15 GMT Scrooge MacDuck said:

Some people have theorized to this effect, though I don't really like to think of it that way.

Why not? I kind of like it. It would fit everything perfectly.

[juicymcduck]

I hope the mods will forgive me for resurrecting such an old thread, but I have a question re. something that was said in this thread. Does anyone here own a copy of the Disney Who's Who (2016 edition)? I'd like to know to what extent exactly Amely is mentioned in it. And I've got the same request for Walt Disney's Mickey Mouse: The Ultimate History. Thanks in advance to anyone who'll be able to answer that! :-)

[LP]

Oct 28, 2018 17:17:14 GMT LP said:

Maybe the original Mrs Fieldmouse could be retconned into being an separate character: Frank Fieldmouse's mother, the twins' paternal grandmother? Then it would make sense that Mickey calls her "Mrs. Fieldmouse", seeing as she would be his sister's mother-in-law.

This is of course just fan speculation.

As this thread has now been revived, I might as well comment on my previous comment. I made the mistake of not actually reading the whole story before forming this "paternal grandmother"-theory. Had I done so I would have realized that Mrs. Fieldmouse is indeed referred to as the twins' mother, as seen in these three panels:



That being said, Mrs. Fieldmouse is clearly not Felicity. She's too old and Mickey does not act like he's her brother. So ignoring these references to "mother" and having Mrs. Fieldmouse be the twins' grandmother would probably be the best solution, if Mrs. Fieldmouse were to be used in a story again.

[kilmarnock228]

This thread puts me in mind of a similar issue: the two Fannys associated with Oswald. One was his pre-Ortensia love interest, and the other is his (clearly younger) sister who appears in at least one Universal short. For some bizarre reason, the Disney Wiki treats them as a single character.