Uuuuugh MORE Della? Seriously? I was actually excited for her to make her animated debut, but this entire arc is full of ridiculous plot holes and conveniences and it gets SO MUCH attention. How many Della episodes (Including these) will we have so far, not only half into the season? Four? Ugh. Also gotta love how they will completely change another well established character like Gandra Dee for no good reason once again. This show really likes to do that, huh.
It's incredible how this show keeps throwing horribly adapted characters into our faces. Why not make your own characters instead of taking already existing ones and changing their entire personalities for no good reason? Gyro, Goldie, Quackfaster, Glomgold, Doofus, and lesser ones. The only good adaptations are Webby and Beakley and even then they are on thin ice.
Also gotta love how they will completely change another well established character like Gandra Dee for no good reason once again. This show really likes to do that, huh.
Weeeell... to be 100% honest (and this is just my personal observation on the base of social media and such), Gandra while not hated character by some fans like Doofus or Bubba still fals into cathegory of characters people don't care that much and (much like the old Webby) felt to be very one-dimentional female stereotype (plus her overly soft voice was tad annoying at times) but unilike Webby or Mrs. Beakley on the old show she never got that developed... I mean, did she ever had some character arc other then being love intrest for Fenton?
I don't dislike character, I just think much like Webby she is in the category of characters people won't mind if they change/update since there wasn't much there in the first place.
Making her a scientist is a ok move and making her a Punk... Um... Well, that's an oryginal direction I must say. I always find nerd-type and punk/goth-type dynamics interesting as far romance go so I'm all for it.
I agree that Gandra, Webby and Beakley weren't interesting in the original, which is why I think the changes they made to them are valid.
Making Webby a Duck family enthusiast who looks up to Scrooge and researches everything about him and his family was a wonderful idea, even though her hyperactive personality can be a little too much, but that can be said about other characters too. Making Beakley a secret agent with an actual backstory was also really cool.
Like, if they wanted to make Gandra Dee more than a walking stereotype then changing her completely wouldn't even be necessary. In the original Ducktales she seemed to be interested in robotics, maybe they could have expanded on that to make her be anything more than a love interest, but still keep her sweet and calm personality instead of making her a completely different person, maybe change her design a little bit but still make her recognizable.[/quote]
Like, if they wanted to make Gandra Dee more than a walking stereotype then changing her completely wouldn't even be necessary. In the original Ducktales she seemed to be interested in robotics, maybe they could have expanded on that to make her be anything more than a love interest, but still keep her sweet and calm personality instead of making her a completely different person, maybe change her design a little bit but still make her recognizable.
Knowing how titles tends to be puns I can only guess she will be a chemist in this reincarnation.
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The next episode seems to reference the 1990 movie, which made me excited. "Treasure of The Lost Lamp" was how I was introduced to Ducktales, and it was after watching it that the Disney Comics grew on me, so this may be a particularly nostalgic experience for me. I'm guessing the warrior is Dijon, the thief who appeared in the movie and in two of the last episodes of the classic, (including the two-part finale), since I saw a bedoiune-like character at Comic-Con Panel. Not sure if Merlock and Genie will appear, since they weren't in the panel, though the missing artifact might be the lamp, sooo... Genie?!
On Gandra Dee... I'm always excited when they bring back some character from the classic series, though i'm not sure what to think of her description. Since she wasn't among the most memorable characters in the original show, I'll wait and see what she turns out to bring us as a "punk rock scientist".
I also have a hunch that the warrior thing is a refrence to Dijon. It would be an interesting upgrade from a thief and it matches design they introduced at comic-con.
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Uuuuugh MORE Della? Seriously? I was actually excited for her to make her animated debut, but this entire arc is full of ridiculous plot holes and conveniences and it gets SO MUCH attention. How many Della episodes (Including these) will we have so far, not only half into the season? Four? Ugh. Also gotta love how they will completely change another well established character like Gandra Dee for no good reason once again. This show really likes to do that, huh.
Could you mention a plot hole?
And Gandra Dee wasn't a "well established character", she was just another bland female character, people don't remember about her. And.. I mean, the original DuckTales was made in 1987, people's interests changed, adapting an old character to nowdays's audience is/should be a good thing.
Post by Baar Baar Jinx on Apr 25, 2019 12:45:33 GMT
I personally have no objection to the updating of characters from the original show, especially when it was sorely needed ... DuckTales '17's versions of Webby and Beakley, and even Fenton/GizmoDuck, for example, are far superior to their '87 counterparts. It's mucking about with elements of the venerated comics universe that rubs me the wrong way. But I guess it's a matter of personal preference ... the comics mean a lot to me, but I don't care much for DuckTales '87; fans of that show, however, may not look to kindly upon the reinterpretations that the reboot has adopted.
While the general impression seams to be positve I did seen fans here or there complaning about changes to Fenton and his mom, but very large portion (in not 99% mayority) of the fans seams totaly on board with changes to Webby and Beakley if not over-joyed they finally did something interesting with the characters. People get more emotional abut Gyro or Magica as they already had great, established personalites and any update felt unnecessary and a down grade.
Gandra is a character I usualy forgets that even existed whenever I talk with fans of the old show, as depsite appearing in like 10 episodes, she simply didn't leave that much of impresion or impact. I mean, Im not even sure how I would describe her personality beyong "She's nice". (Ok, I guess I can add "she likes Fenton a lot but have her limits when he crosses the line" but that's still not much there)
BTW - I found this fan drawing some one made base on the episode descritpion :
Eeee... Why not? At least she looks interesting here...
Last Edit: Apr 25, 2019 13:45:30 GMT by Pan Maciej
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Image of Rockerduck was shown on Italian Duck Tales facebook page. He will be voiced by John Kellog Hodgman (Baby Mama, Il Primo dei Bugiardi, Pitch Perfect 2)
Acording to Disney wiki (Base on interview with the creators) "He will be portrayed as a wealthy robber baron and competing billionaire to Scrooge during the 1930s."
My theory that he willbe a villain from Scrooge's past in the western theme episode feels to be more and more correct..
Last Edit: Apr 25, 2019 19:14:51 GMT by Pan Maciej
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Okay, I'll admit it's less about plot holes and more about plot conveniences, but still.
Like, Della spends 10 years alone on the moon without going insane, without showering, without any food and water? Like, the Oxy-chew provided water and nutrition, even though when the Oxy-chew first appeared in the remastered Ducktales game, all it did was provide oxygen, the writers of the reboot only came up with the "Oxy-chew provides water and nutrition" thing to excuse Della not starving to death. Also, either the effect of one gum lasted for this long or one package has enough gum for 10 years, both are absurd.
The excuse that the pig lady couldn't see Della because of the smoke is so dumb because Scrooge sent hundreds, hell maybe even THOUSANDS of ships to look for her! Are you telling me that NONE of them passed throught the moon when there WASN'T any smoke?
The whole "the ship runs of gold tech" thing is not only SUPER out of character for Scrooge, as usual, but the fact that the Moon was conveniently FULL OF GOLD, THE EXACT THING DELLA NEEDS TO RETURN HOME makes it such an absurd Deus ex machina, it just baffles me.
Also these moon guys are extremely out of place for the show and I couldn't care less for them. And I have no idea how they've never met Della before in a whole decade.
I agree with "That pig lady/any other person not finding Della", "Della not going crazy" and "The moonlanders not finding Della" things, but i think that there's an explanation for the Moonlanders problem, since.. They only appeared for 1 episode and we don't really know much about them. (And, about the Della not going crazy, maybe in her perspective only 1 year or so has passed? Like, i don't really remember Della herself mentioning that she's been 10 years on the moon)
The whole reason that Oxy-chew(s) exists is because plot convenience. It didn't made sense that Scrooge was alive and okay on the moon for more than 5 seconds, someone realized it and created the Oxy-chew, the writers of the reboot only expanded and used it. (And like, the whole Duck-Mouse-Dog universe is absurd, having a gum that lasts for 10/wathever years isn't the worst thing)