Phooey now has a visualisation. Are they going to make Phooey canon now? Editor Bob Foster coined the name "Phooey" in an Uncle Scrooge letters page in the 1990's, I think.
That'd be interesting archaeology (and useful to the Wiki) if anyone can tell me which issue, but at any rate, he was 'canonized' long ago in a story which made up a Gyro-Gearloose-science reason why sometimes, a fourth Duck nephew pops into existence for a few seconds only to disappear. Bit weird, but delightfully fannish.
Phooey to me is another prove that people behind the show do love the duck lore just (as someone once put it here) "have questionoble tastes" sometimes. I can imagine him re-apeare in some alternative timeline during the "Timephoon" episode.
Actually, it's proof that Angones knows how to carelessly browse the Internet in search of Duck trivia; someone already pointed out earlier in this thread that Angones has claimed that Don Rosa is the one who invented the "Phooey" concept--a mistake he wouldn't have made if he were really the Duck loremaster he likes to pretend he is.
I still think that despite what SOME say that creators had all the best intention for Donald and we will get a little bit more of him before the finaly.
In fact, they always seem to get it right in Donald-centric episodes. I don't think they have less than good intentions in regards of him, I think it's because Donald is the character Disney fans wanted to see most. But the focus is mostly on the kids, probably because the show is intended for a young audience, so the main adults, even Scrooge, sometimes are pushed aside in favor of HDL and Webby-centric episodes. And because of the main adults, Donald is the least adventure-oriented, being retired from them after the Della incident and dedicated to raise his nephews, he winds up the most prone to be left out of the plots. Still, the show's given us a fair amount of great episodes with him, and I trust them to go on with that. I enjoyed this episode, especially the scenes with Donald on the moon. Even with all the seriousness of the invasion plot, they managed to give us some hilarious moments (what was that scorpion dance?) and of course, we have the explanation to "why Donald is so angry all the time". While the short answer is predictable, I liked Jones' comment on how he canalyzed his anger into his paternal instincts, which fits perfectly for Papa Wolf Donald we know and love in this show.
The alien general dosen't exite me as a villain but we see well this is all going.
While Lunaris didn't get me all that much either, I think he has all the potential to be a great villain. He seems very different than most other villains in the show; he's a serious presence all the time, having pretty much no comedic moments. Even his fight with Donald was serious business. Also, he's one of the most level-headed villains so far, having no ham, no over-the-top traits, he knows how to use the others, when to strike and when to step back; I know the invasion plot will be solved in the season finale, but I'm hping that he 's a solid threat throughout this arc. I loved the 2001: A Space Osyssey reference as Donald shoots himself back to the Earth. And this scene seems to confirme my theory that in Ducktales, determination and willpower give you some kind of super-resistence. Look at Glomgold, who survived so many injuries thanks to raw stubborness, or El Capitáin in the original series, remaining alive after 400 year out of "sheer willpower". Now we learn that even the laws of physics can't stop Donald Duck from protecting his kids!
And this scene seems to confirme my theory that in Ducktales, determination and willpower give you some kind of super-resistence. Look at Glomgold, who survived so many injuries thanks to raw stubborness, or El Capitáin in the original series, remaining alive after 400 year out of "sheer willpower". Now we learn that even the laws of physics can't stop Donald Duck from protecting his kids!
There is that to some extent, but if you want to be more realistic about this scene, I think Moonlander standards of physical resilience are just much lower than Earthlings' due to the lower gravity on their 'planet', and so what was utterly impossible to survive as far as Lunaris could fathom was just about manageable for a particularly tough Earthling, with no physics-breaking required.
In fact, they always seem to get it right in Donald-centric episodes. I don't think they have less than good intentions in regards of him, I think it's because Donald is the character Disney fans wanted to see most. But the focus is mostly on the kids, probably because the show is intended for a young audience, so the main adults, even Scrooge, sometimes are pushed aside in favor of HDL and Webby-centric episodes. And because of the main adults, Donald is the least adventure-oriented, being retired from them after the Della incident and dedicated to raise his nephews, he winds up the most prone to be left out of the plots. Still, the show's given us a fair amount of great episodes with him, and I trust them to go on with that.
From my personal expirance studios/TV stations etc. feel much more safe if a TV show for kids is about kids as the protagonists... something I think is a little bit missguided. As a kid I had zero problem enjoying cartoons/comics that focus on adult characters and relating to them (Asterix, Popeye, Batman, Spider-man and... um, yhe! Uncle Scrooge and Donald!)
My guess is pushing Donald on the side (in this show or the previews one) has more to do with his voice. He is a character that work the best in stories where there is very little dialog and focus is on slasptick etc. and you don't want to overplay the "no one understands him" joke.
I did got use to this show being more about the kids, which I don't mind but I wish we got more episodes with Scrooge in focus to balance things out. First half of "Last Christmas" and "Outlaw Scrooge McDuck" where so far the only two episodes this season where we got Scrooge be solo, without the kids in center of things.
Last Edit: Sept 6, 2019 22:25:34 GMT by Pan Maciej
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And this scene seems to confirme my theory that in Ducktales, determination and willpower give you some kind of super-resistence. Look at Glomgold, who survived so many injuries thanks to raw stubborness, or El Capitáin in the original series, remaining alive after 400 year out of "sheer willpower". Now we learn that even the laws of physics can't stop Donald Duck from protecting his kids!
There is that to some extent, but if you want to be more realistic about this scene, I think Moonlander standards of physical resilience are just much lower than Earthlings' due to the lower gravity on their 'planet', and so what was utterly impossible to survive as far as Lunaris could fathom was just about manageable for a particularly tough Earthling, with no physics-breaking required.
Indeed. And the fact that Lunaris doesn't consider that for a moment as Donald prepares to shoot himself is very fitting for him, seeing how he sees his people as utterly superior to the others. Probably the first "classic villain mistake" he made so far.
I enjoyed this episode, especially the scenes with Donald on the moon. Even with all the seriousness of the invasion plot, they managed to give us some hilarious moments (what was that scorpion dance?) and of course, we have the explanation to "why Donald is so angry all the time". While the short answer is predictable, I liked Jones' comment on how he canalyzed his anger into his paternal instincts, which fits perfectly for Papa Wolf Donald we know and love in this show.
That part was *extremely* predictable. I knew the minute I read Angones' comment several weeks ago, about the revelation of the source of Donald's anger, that it would involve some version of his love for HD&L. It was still sweet, of course. But do we really need to know what the source of Donald's anger is? Cartoon-Donald, at least, has always been a short-fused hothead. It's been one of his defining characteristics, like Scrooge's stinginess or Goofy's eccentricity. This seems like something that didn't need explaining. He could still be shown going to Jones for anger management (given their relationship in the comics, that part was brilliant! I think I mentioned on this thread a long time ago that I'd hoped they'd bring Jones into the show in some capacity. The direction they ultimately decided to go exceeded my expectations).
I do agree with you that Donald was portrayed well in the episode, and when they do focus on him, they get him right ... "House of the Lucky Gander" being another example.
I still think that despite what SOME say that creators had all the best intention for Donald and we will get a little bit more of him before the finaly.
In fact, they always seem to get it right in Donald-centric episodes. I don't think they have less than good intentions in regards of him, I think it's because Donald is the character Disney fans wanted to see most. But the focus is mostly on the kids, probably because the show is intended for a young audience, so the main adults, even Scrooge, sometimes are pushed aside in favor of HDL and Webby-centric episodes.
Aren't the comics also intended for a young audience?
Aren't the comics also intended for a young audience?
I think different writers have different philosophies; certainly the publishers' default assumption tends to be that they'll be selling to kids (although, define 'kids': I get the impression, in France, for example, that Disney Comics are often advertised as being targeted more for younger teenagers), but it seems to me like Don Rosa and his ilk, while not forbidding kids from reading their stuff or anything, are writing just as much for adult comic fans as for children.
Judging by the unofficial poster (IE, the poster the storyboarders tend to make for each episode to post on social media), the logic of mentioning Killmotor Hill is indeed that that's the hill where the Manor is located, unrelated to the Money Bin. Makes enough sense I guess since Money Bin isn't in a hill, and the manor is.
"Fan-favorite"? That's... "interesting" way to fraze it...
OK, at first I was just going to favorite this post, but then I thought that could be construed as "she's glad Bubba's back!" Whereas what I really want to say is, Pan made me laugh out loud. Not for the first time!
This must the modern-day version of "reprinted by popular demand," I guess.
Boy, does that Bubba-art make him look like he's wearing glasses!
As for Bubba... All joking aside, while it's hard to see why he is conisder shows least favorite character by many, the more I think about it I have to admit Im in the minority that dosen't mind him. I like voice Frank Walker gave him (in fact I would love if they got him back for the role, even if It wouldn't suprise me if Bubba would make grunts rather then talk in this version), I think that the design and some of his scenes with Scrooge where cute and "Bubba's Big brain storm" is among season 2/3 episodes that I like, depsite it's flaws. For me the biggest problem with him is that they try to force him as part of main cast, where he clearly was one-time idea character as he is very one-note. He could get annoying but unlike Doofus at least I found parts of him likable and charming.
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I think Bubba was introduced during a complicated phase of Ducktales. The first 65 episodes had a combination of its sense of adventure and Wang Film Production' ground-breaking art style (the scenarios are one of the elements that will always hold up, along with the soundtrack). Bubba's debut was during a different phase, when the episodes were made by another studio, whose animation, while not bad, looked way more cartoonish and loose, and that was felt in the tone too, as the episodes became more sitcom-like (especially after Fenton's debut). So Bubba seems to have represented this heavy change in the show to the audience, which is why some fans see him as what started the "worse part" of Ducktales. I watched the season one long before watching the episodes with him, so I was aware of his reputation (and the season 2's as the "worse part") when I first saw his episodes; and he was better than I expected. I could see the difference between that phase and the first 65 which I'd watched and enjoyed better, but it wasn't all his fault. The point is, I think, after he was promoted to a fourth nephew they didn't do much with him. In fact, he even sort of disappeared during a good part of season three and four after his debut, and maybe that contribuited to his reputation as a poor addition to the main cast. A character is only as good as they make him out to be, and if you don't do enough, he obviously won't work as well as he could, not because he's doomed since the beggining, but because the show could have done better. This was the problem with Webby overall: she could work and she did when she was given enough of a role, as in "Cold Ducks" and "Merit-Time Adventure", but because most of the time she, much like Bubba, wasn't present and/or wasn't given enough to do, their legacy back then was less than glorious. Still, I remember liking him when he had a meaningful role, as in his debut in "Time Is Money" and "Ducky Mountain High" (my favorite is "Bubbeo and Juliet", where he falls in love with the new neighbours' daughter but her parents and Scrooge hate each other's guts), and I'm looking forward to his return (I love time travel plots).
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