Apologies if this is what you figured, too, and I'm misreading your tone of voice.
Nah! I was just not 100% sure why are they hanging out in Donald's house in the first place. I get it was part of his atempt to get Daisy back, it just felt tad forced.
I like in episode 5 that AM&J are trying to bring Daisy and Donald together and help him out - sweet of them.
Since there is three of them I woudn't be all that suprised if in the future they will get some sort of title of "tree girl Caballeros"/"Caballeroettes" from Xandra.
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I don't approve of the idea that Donald is going to have to keep lying to Daisy and getting in trouble for it. (...)How about the alternate theory that honesty is key to a good romantic relationship, and Daisy doesn't need to be protected any more than AMJ?
It is a classic Clack Kent/Lois Lane slash Pete Parker/MJ trope here with heroe who can't tell the girl about his heroic deeds and leeds a double life. The whole - I wan't to tell you the truth but I can't is good for drama/comedy.
But I woudn't be suprsied if Donald will come to conlcusion you mention down the line.
Also note that Donald WAS 100% honest with Daisy about what's going at the start but then was presure by Xandra into being quite so it's not like the message is "it's ok to lie". It's more about keeping a secret. But yhe, "your loved ones will get hurt" thing is tad overplayed trope at this point.
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I don't approve of the idea that Donald is going to have to keep lying to Daisy and getting in trouble for it. (...)How about the alternate theory that honesty is key to a good romantic relationship, and Daisy doesn't need to be protected any more than AMJ?
It is a classic Clack Kent/Lois Lane slash Pete Parker/MJ trope here with heroe who can't tell the girl about his heroic deeds and leeds a double life. The whole - I wan't to tell you the truth but I can't is good for drama/comedy.
But I woudn't be suprsied if Donald will come to conlcusion you mention down the line.
Also note that Donald WAS 100% honest with Daisy about what's going at the start but then was presure by Xandra into being quite so it's not like the message is "it's ok to lie". It's more about keeping a secret. But yhe, "your loved ones will get hurt" thing is tad overplayed trope at this point.
True, I'm not blaming Donald, he gets pressured into it. Yes, it's the "superhero's girlfriend" trope, and I don't like it, and I can't see how it makes sense here. Plus, Lois Lane's way-younger nieces were not in on the secret and helping Superman do his heroics! My problem is not "lying" as opposed to "keeping a secret"--comes to the same thing, when you're talking about a major part of your current life and a person in a close relationship with you. There can be a good reason for doing this, but I don't see that reason here. I'm aware that, if you're living under a brutal dictatorship, you might conceal from your family that you're working for the Resistance (not that that will save them if you're caught! but it will keep them from revealing the truth inadvertently). But that's a seriously tragic situation, and it doesn't apply for me to superhero or fantasy cartoon hero stories. I'm trying to think of a narrative where "I want to tell you the truth but I can't" in the context of a close relationship has actually made things funny/dramatic for me in a pleasant way, and I can't. With the possible exception of concealing a birthday surprise.
But this is a fairly minor complaint for me; I've been enjoying LTC a lot so far, the humor and the wholehearted adventure and the animation style.
Uhm... has anybody ever acknowledged Donald's lack of pants before?
That bothered me too. I think of these characters as humans (which is really the only way Disney has ever treated them with few exceptions, unlike the Looney Tunes characters), so any joke that hinges on their being animals (or the way they dress, which is a function of that) causes dissonance in my mind. On the other hand, the "We're not birds! It's not like we can fly!" line works fine on a meta-level, because if you replace the characters with humans, it still makes sense even though it ceases to be funny. As we discussed on another thread, a comics example for the former is the scene in "The Gilded Man" where Donald, HD&L are disturbed by the sight of stuffed ducks, and an example for the latter is the Gottfredson gag where Minnie is frightened by a non-anthropomorphic mouse. So yes, the "no pants" gag doesn't work for Donald, unlike the way it worked for Porky on The Looney Tunes Show).
The Daisy of old would have had a conniption over Donald apparently living with Xandra ... I guess they rightly decided the "hysterical jealous woman" trope was outdated and offensive. But they seem to have swung to the other extreme. Really, Daisy, you just broke up with Donald and he's hanging around with someone who looks like that, and you're okay with it? Very confident and trusting! (I also like how José starts to make a move on Daisy, only to have Donald push him out of the way ... very in-character!)
Episode six - Most epic as far the adventure go so far.
A lot of cool visuals and action in this. I liked the musical number it add some surrealism to the story. Are the gobblins singing a refrence to something? "The Hobbit" perhaps?
This episode also made me think go "The Adventrues of Gummi bears" - a Disney show that I have a lot of nostalgia for.
Worm - the nice goblin - appears to be inspired by the Creeper from "Black Cauldron".
All the "telenovela" jokes worked for me.
Its also interesting to have a moment in Jail when Jose gets angry at Donald for smacking Panchito. I've seen Donald get angry at Jose or Panchito many times but never the other way around
Nice cameo by Lucifer from "Cinderella".
Not a fan of toilet humor but seeing how this are... well... goblins, it's sort of fits.
I'm also not a fan of CGI creatures in 2D animation but... the stone monster oddly worked for me. He was actually pretty intimidating. So far the most scary thing The Caballeros had faced.
Long story short - I like this one. Not the funnyest episode so far but overall very creative and interesting one (plus made me go "Awwww..." near the end ^_^ even if the scene was ment to be played for laughs )
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A lot of cool visuals and action in this. I liked the musical number it add some surrealism to the story. Are the gobblins singing a refrence to something? "The Hobbit" perhaps?
Worm - the nice goblin - appears to be inspired by the Creeper from "Black Cauldron".
I presume, yes — be it the original Tolkien tale, or the 1970's animated film. (Or possibly the Percy Jackson film, I suppose, but in that one it was just the Great Goblin singing, not all the Goblins together… and even then, only in the extended cut.)
I believe "Creeper" is usually used as a proper name, not a "the"-addled title.
Weird detail: the Aracuan Bird has a variation of his "fast paced ra-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-tee-yah" routine, but it's… not quite the original tune, yet extremely like it. Did they have a rights issue or something? It's kind of distracting.
Probably is a rights thing. If you remember, the Aracuan Bird didn't sing his characteristic tune when he appeared on House of Mouse; he was essentially non-verbal there. I'm sure they would have included his song then if they could have. He just isn't the same without that vocal accompaniment.
By the way, I notice one thing they left from the movies as well Don Rosas stories is the theme of Jose calling Donald Donaldo and Panchito calling him Donal'. Not that it bother me... Maybe they asumed it is a pointless detail to ceep track of.
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I also enjoyed episode 6. The telenovela running joke/theme grounds Panchito and José in Latin American culture, for those of you who have been hoping for more cultural referents for the two of them.
Liked the cute hamster as extreme anti-goblin weaponry!
If you're going to have love/friendship win out over evil/violence, the way to avoid sentimentality is to keep things dramatic, surprising and funny. This is what Unbeatable Squirrel Girl is so good at...and this episode does a nice job of it, too.
Hummm... Good point! Maybe it's the Polish transaltors who made them call Daisy "ciocia' (aunt) every single time and that version got stock in my head.
Rosa based his entire theory of Daisy's brother being HD&L's father on the fact that the boys call her "Aunt" Daisy; would be ironic if it turned out that Barks (the only Duck writer who matters to Rosa) never had them do that (if someone finds an instance where he did, please post it).
Hummm... Good point! Maybe it's the Polish transaltors who made them call Daisy "ciocia' (aunt) every single time and that version got stock in my head.
Rosa based his entire theory of Daisy's brother being HD&L's father on the fact that the boys call her "Aunt" Daisy; would be ironic if it turned out that Barks (the only Duck writer who matters to Rosa) never had them do that (if someone finds an instance where he did, please post it).
I think they call her aunt in Omelet, but I don't have the english version of that comic.
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Rosa based his entire theory of Daisy's brother being HD&L's father on the fact that the boys call her "Aunt" Daisy; would be ironic if it turned out that Barks (the only Duck writer who matters to Rosa) never had them do that (if someone finds an instance where he did, please post it).
I think they call her aunt in Omelet, but I don't have the english version of that comic.
Nope, the boys don't even address Daisy directly in Omelet.
Ok, the writing team rely out did themselves with the humor in this. This episode is just a quick funny gag after a quick funny gag and the way the wacky plot comes together it's in itself hilarious.
All the stuff with president's ghosts was clever and I like that only first five minutes takes place in the "location of the week" and the rest of the episode is wacky hijinx in the New Quackmore.
I like we get a Peacock character - something fresh to the usual talking animal list.
Subplot with Xandra going to a part was one of my favorite parts. Again, it's fun that they taking a character like this - one who would usualy get more serious/come role and doing something totaly agianst the type with her. Not only she acts like teen agian (a spoiled, bratty one to say the least) but now she has tendency to scream with a Heavy Metal like voice and I just find it incredeble funny, as well the idea that when she is not concern with saving the world she is annything but sophysticated godess. In fact April, May and June actualy play the role of straight man to her antics... And both the animation and voice acting on the character is comedic gold!
I so wish she get's cult fallowing after this show to be introduce into the comics or something. She's heroic and cool enough to be a femenist icon but also works as a comic foil - it's so great!
BTW - April, May and June get's more and more of a point in this show serving as Xandra guides to the real world.
We finaly get's Donald Dubble guy who get's a role in the episode and is named Dapper Duck (Honestly, I ceep hearing "DEBERT" but that's what Disney wiki say it's his name... Ok. I'll trust the wiki for now). Another great voice acting on the character being over the top... ... I'm not even sure how do you call this type of voice. Just funny and over the top voice/acent/maner of talking. He serve the role that would most likley go to Gladstone... but I think it's an ok idea to use an old character like this (plus if it was Gladstone then they would have to add the entire "Oh, look it's your cousin Gladstone" and maybe work in the entire luck factor... Honestly it would just felt to much unnecessary information for people who don't know who Gladstone is, if his role is only there for Daisy to stick it to Donald) So I like they are pulling from all sources not just the comics...
...Even if I find Daisy action's in this episode incredeble... well, I don't want to use foul leanguage but if my Ex-girfiend would show up at my house one day just to shove her new boyfriend in my face It would be SHE who would look bad not not me. Tha'ts just a nasty thing to do and makes her look eaither mean or very insecured. In fact I like that Jose and Panchito make sure Depper knows they don't like him. That's how real friends should react in such situation.
A lot of great fast lines in this from Donald, Panchito and Jose. Most of the episode is just them working as a trio and it's some good old fashion slapstick. The are like the Marx Brothers or Three Stooges (only don't fight each other). Callback to Gobblin jail in previews episode was hilarious.
I loved the Bear - Not sure is it Humphrey or not, but he is very Humphery-like. Yet ANOTHER fantastic voice acting I notice in the episode. He makes only noises but there is this part when he smels honey and goes "HO-HO-HO" that just cracked me up.
I like that the bees in the episode also look like from old Donald shorts.
It's nice tha they show more of the villian playing the role of President of the club and we learn more about him.
BTW - Great bit : Panchito (yells) - You have a bear in your house! Von Sheldgoose (yells back) - Well, I can't bear your house either!
Just the idea that Von Sheldgoose would asume that Panchito would just stand under his window to yell how much he dosen't like his house... LOVE IT!
Honestly I could just go on and on what I loved about this episode. It's just quick comedy action after quick comedy action. I hope this show will become some sort of a classic. Cartoon writers need to take notes from this...
We finaly get's Donald Dubble guy who get's a role in the episode and is named Dapper Duck (Honestly, I ceep hearing "DEBERT" but that's what Disney wiki say it's his name... Ok. I'll trust the wiki for now). Another great voice acting on the character being over the top... I'm not even sure how do you call this type of voice. Just funny and over the top. He serve the role that would most likley go to Gladstone... but I think it's an ok idea to use an old character like this (plus if it was Gladstone then they would have to add the entire "Oh, look it's your cousin Gladstone" and maybe work in the entire luck factor... Honestly it would just felt to much unnecessary information for people who don't know who Gladstone is, if his role is only there for Daisy to stick it to Donald) So I like they are pulling from all sources not just the comics...
Question: do the characters acknowledge that they already know Dapper/Debert, or not?