Actually the grandmother's real name should be Gianna, but she was nicknamed Jenny delle Traversate. I always had her as Don Pepe's daughter, but I'm starting to question her canonicity.
In the context of this tree, I don't know what canon means. I mean, this time it's pretty much anything goes. Why would Jenny (or Gianna) be less canonical than anyone else on the tree? What does "delle Traversate" mean? I guess it's not her maiden name, since you called it a nickname.
she was called delle Traversate because she used to ask for help to cross the road, she used to fake being a poor paralytic lady in order to arouse compassion and get alms.
- in Paperino e la laurea iperbreve Donald receives a letter saying that he'll need a degree to receive the heredity from a distant and very rich uncle from Europe, Colto de' Coltis (with 'colto' meaning cultured in italian, so his name it's a play like Cultured de' Culturis). At the end, he get the inheritance, which is an enormous quantity of books of no economic value.
- in dai diari delle antenate: Daisy o'Paper contro il West an ancestor of Daisy, called Daisy o'Paper, who lived in the old west with her grandma Molly o'Paper, and Bridget o'Paper (which isn't stated exatly how she's related, she calls Molly 'grandma', so could be both sister or cousin of Daisy). They decided to go west in a caravan because they fall in love of Scrooge and Donald lookalikes, but after arriving the two men leaves. So Molly choose to settle in the farm of Ciccio Ocky, while Daisy and Bridget becomes caravan guides, having already experienced all the hardships of the travel.
- one story that I don't hown but definitely has some relatives of the ducks is Geni in famiglia, published only Mega 459.
And Grandma Duck’s ancestor called Gertrude Ganzenlever (Gertrude Foie-gras) in Dutch, appears in this time-traveling story: inducks.org/story.php?c=D+2018-153
Also, Gladstone Gander from that Sherlock Holmes Mickey story is not an ancestor of current-day Gladstone; the story is simply a “Mickey and Goofy as Sherlock Holmes and Watson”, with the different characters (including Gladstone) in a Sherlock-Holmes setting. I don’t know why Gilles Maurice ever out him on his tree tbh.
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And Grandma Duck’s ancestor called Gertrude Ganzelever (Gertrude Foie-gras) in Dutch, appears in this time-traveling story: inducks.org/story.php?c=D+2018-153
Also, Gladstone Gander from that Sherlock Holmes Mickey story is not an ancestor of current-day Gladstone; the story is simply a “Mickey and Goofy as Sherlock Holmes and Watson”, with the different characters (including Gladstone) in a Sherlock-Holmes setting. I don’t know why Gilles Maurice ever out him on his tree tbh.
I believe I should have the Swedish version of the story with Daisy's aunt in my parents' attic!
Do you know how far back Gertrude lived?
Putting Gladstone Gander of Basketville on my tree was my own decision. Ancestors that look and are named the same as their "present" counterparts is nothing new. Since the original The Hound of the Baskervilles is set in 1889, I thought of the Duck-version of the story as having happened in that year too. Assuming that Grandpa Gander was born around the same time as Grandma and Grandpa Duck, around 1855, he would be in his 30s when the story is set, which fits pretty well. I do understand not wanting him on the tree, though. He's certainly not a part of my head-canon. I hate "ancestor duplicates"! So un-imaginative! That being said, I think he'll stay until we find a better replacement. I don't understand Gilles' placement at all though. Why would he be one generation older than the Civil War soldier?
- in dai diari delle antenate: Daisy o'Paper contro il West an ancestor of Daisy, called Daisy o'Paper, who lived in the old west with her grandma Molly o'Paper, and Bridget o'Paper (which isn't stated exatly how she's related, she calls Molly 'grandma', so could be both sister or cousin of Daisy). They decided to go west in a caravan because they fall in love of Scrooge and Donald lookalikes, but after arriving the two men leaves. So Molly choose to settle in the farm of Ciccio Ocky, while Daisy and Bridget becomes caravan guides, having already experienced all the hardships of the travel.
Do you think Daisy and Bridget could be Cornelius Coot's mother and aunt? Or would that put the story too far back in time?
I guess Cornelius would have been born around... the 1790s...? So this story would have to be set a few years before then for this to work.
What a goofy looking character, too; I like him already. What do you know about his story role?
Nothing, to be honest, haha. I stumbled upon the story by coincidence, while trying to look up a different one with the Inducks search engine. But from what I can see on the scans, It seems he invites Scrooge &co to Canada to help him out.
LP wrote:
Do you know how far back Gertrude lived?
There’s no timeframe given (at least not in the Dutch translation). Perhaps the writer didn’t have anything in mind other than vaguely “the distant past”. But from the visuals (people drive using horse and wagon, streets have lanterns, there’s a kid wearing a sailor suit, and men wearing top hats), I guess you could say it’s late 18th century or 19th century.
What a goofy looking character, too; I like him already. What do you know about his story role?
Nothing, to be honest, haha. I stumbled upon the story by coincidence, while trying to look up a different one with the Inducks search engine. But from what I can see on the scans, It seems he invites Scrooge &co to Canada to help him out.
LP wrote:
Do you know how far back Gertrude lived?
There’s no timeframe given (at least not in the Dutch translation). Perhaps the writer didn’t have anything in mind other than vaguely “the distant past”. But from the visuals (people drive using horse and wagon, streets have lanterns, there’s a kid wearing a sailor suit, and men wearing top hats), I guess you could say it’s late 18th century or 19th century.
How did you get at the scan? It's not on the main page for the story as far as I can see.
I still haven't gotten to Gilles' missing-page yet. However, I have gone through the thread and added all of the characters you guys have mentioned! (At least I think I didn't miss anyone!)
From left to right, I've finally added images of Grandma's cousins, as well as Klazien and her husband. I did draw a line between Ludwig and Matilda. It looks... fine, but not great. And now he seems like a... I believe "cradle-snatcher" is the term, but even though she's a generation above him, they're actually basically the same age! Oh well. This also meant that I moved Willie Waddle from being Matilda's husband. People didn't seem to like that relationship anyways. Willie is now Dia's husband on the Duck branch.
Paeralfonsina and Dingeman are now a couple. The duke of Duckcyzk has been moved to the Duck branch, as Scrooge isn't around in his story. (Also I needed more room on the O'Drake branch.) I still haven't removed the Gone with the Wind-versions of Gladstone and Fethry. Maybe I should? I don't know. Speaking of which, the Butler-family is now connected via the McPapers, which are in turn connected via Scrooge's and Rockerduck's common aunts. This part of the tree i a bit messy, but this is the best solution I could come up with... Feel free to come up with other options, but keep in mind that Ocagliostro is both Scrooge's and Rockerduck's fourth cousin.
I removed the van Dukkes, and instead renamed Jenny "MacGoose". Her father Oscar was a pirate, so I kept the connection to the van Duck-pirates to this branch.
Paperin Parodi and his relatives lived in Italy, so I connected them to Donald il Fornaretto who also lived in Italy around the same time.
I added all the McMiliard-ancestors I'm aware of. I don't know if they're supposed to be even more ancient, though. I added Edipo Duck to the "McDuck-Duck-branch", as Mazuma's brother, and the triplets' father. I also added Harpagão MacShato; a cousin of Scrooge. Also MacPatacon. All of Florian de Candard's decendants are now on the tree. Also, Paperin de Canard is his brother.
Glomgold Junior is the son of Flintheart's cousin, rather than his brother, as he most likely doesn't have a brother. Scrooge's Australian cousins are no longer father and son.
Daisy now has even more cousins and even more aunts and uncles. This will never end. I think that's all of them, but I've lost track. I decided that it would be improbable that there is half a town full of Duckfields. All of them can't actually be related! It would be more logical that the town is split up into the Duckfield-tribe and the Mocksson-tribe. ...So that's the way it is on the tree now.
I've also moved around some things on the Gearloose branch. Like, Gyro's farmer cousin Pardalino is now the son of the non-inventing Priscilla. And the Japanese cousin is now the son of Pardalina. I believe that works. I also added Gyro's maternal grandmother from a costume-story, which I shouldn't do, but I guess I'm a badboy. I thought that was better than nothing.
Oh yeah, and Dackmar should be in the correct place now.
Finally, some last minute additions. Colto de' Coltis and Donald's grand-aunt Amalia are now added to the Duck branch-jungle. Daisy's grand-aunt Agatha is there, as well as a currently unknown aunt from another story. And, lastly, the o'Paper-sisters with their grandma Molly, with Gertrude put in between. I put them down as Cornelius Coot's mother with family.
Well, no. If I did it on a Thursday last time, it wasn't intentional. My workload in school hasn't been too intense these last few weeks, so I have had more time over for this project than I would have otherwise. The updates will mostly happen every now and again when I'm caught up with the additions to the thread. I don't know when I'm ready to dive into the missing-list, but hopefully it won't be too long until then!
This family tree is madness and I love it! And I thought my own family tree was confusing. I remember thinking Gilles Maurice's tree was insane back in the day, but this one covers about everyone, Humphrey Gokart included!
All: Do you know if Susiebelle Swan (Gladstone's distant relative mentioned in The Gilded Man, in OS#422) ever appear in a Disney comic? Didn't Don Rosa use her?