In this story inducks.org/story.php?c=I+PM++185-1 (where we just have relatives) there's another duck that we don't have on the tree who seems to be a prehistoric ancestor of the Von Paperonen
I don't know if anyone has referenced this book yet, but it's called Daffy Duck's Family Tree, I believe it features some relatives, but I don't know about names. There's also Daffy Duck's ancestor King Daffy, as well.
On the tree I made I added Mehitabel Mudhen as a grandchild of a Grandma Duck's sister from a Bob Gregory comic, even though it's by a different comic artist. I put her on this branch, because I din't like her as Cuthbert's daughter, and I wasn't sure if she was a first cousin, so I decided not to make her a daughter of Uncle Eider. I like your theory on Mehitabel being Matilda's daughter, but there are some problems due to Matilda possibly marrying Ludwig Von Drake, and Donald being described as his only living relative/nephew. But since Matilda is living in A Letter From Home, I could see her having a family, just like her sister Hortense did, I would really love to see if she has children or grandchildren out there somewhere.
Since you want to include Taliaferro-relatives on your tree, I would suggest having Grandma's sister married to a Mr. Mudhen, and then these two could be the parents of Uncle Gus (mentioned in YD 44-01-25). Uncle Gus could then be the father of Mehitabel.
I don't think there is anything official linking Matilda McDuck to Ludwig Von Drake. The closest thing would be that weird family tree that Disney XD posted on their Facebook or Twitter a few months back. At any rate, that one seems to have been mainly inspired by the DuckTales 2017 continuity. Other than that, the Matilda/Ludwig-marriage only exists as Don Rosa's head-canon. Worth noting is that he came up with this to "solve" the problem with Donald referring to Ludwig as his "uncle". Rosa said that the only way that makes sense is if Ludwig was an uncle by marriage. Of course, that's not the case - a cousin once removed could be referred to as an uncle, for example. With that in mind, the Matilda/Ludwig-marriage is a solution to a non-existent problem. It serves no purpose, it has no real evidence behind it, and we have found a better placement for Ludwig anyways.
I don't know where Ludwig has described Donald as his only living relative or nephew, but that wouldn't make sense no matter where you place Ludwig on the tree. However (going back to Mehitabel Mudhen), Scrooge describing Donald as his closest living relative could still sort of make sense with Mehitabel being Matilda's daughter. Scrooge would have made those comments during the period when he hadn't seen or heard from Matilda since 1930. Thus, he would probably not have knowledge about any sons or daughters she may have had since then.
I don't know if somebody already brought it up, but I just noticed that in Qit/MG 608A, Dugan's parents are said to be "Mary de Papero" and Abner Duck.
I don't know if somebody already brought it up, but I just noticed that in Qit/MG 608A, Dugan's parents are said to be "Mary de Papero" and Abner Duck.
On the tree I made I added Mehitabel Mudhen as a grandchild of a Grandma Duck's sister from a Bob Gregory comic, even though it's by a different comic artist. I put her on this branch, because I din't like her as Cuthbert's daughter, and I wasn't sure if she was a first cousin, so I decided not to make her a daughter of Uncle Eider. I like your theory on Mehitabel being Matilda's daughter, but there are some problems due to Matilda possibly marrying Ludwig Von Drake, and Donald being described as his only living relative/nephew. But since Matilda is living in A Letter From Home, I could see her having a family, just like her sister Hortense did, I would really love to see if she has children or grandchildren out there somewhere.
Since you want to include Taliaferro-relatives on your tree, I would suggest having Grandma's sister married to a Mr. Mudhen, and then these two could be the parents of Uncle Gus (mentioned in YD 44-01-25). Uncle Gus could then be the father of Mehitabel.
I don't think there is anything official linking Matilda McDuck to Ludwig Von Drake. The closest thing would be that weird family tree that Disney XD posted on their Facebook or Twitter a few months back. At any rate, that one seems to have been mainly inspired by the DuckTales 2017 continuity. Other than that, the Matilda/Ludwig-marriage only exists as Don Rosa's head-canon. Worth noting is that he came up with this to "solve" the problem with Donald referring to Ludwig as his "uncle". Rosa said that the only way that makes sense is if Ludwig was an uncle by marriage. Of course, that's not the case - a cousin once removed could be referred to as an uncle, for example. With that in mind, the Matilda/Ludwig-marriage is a solution to a non-existent problem. It serves no purpose, it has no real evidence behind it, and we have found a better placement for Ludwig anyways.
I don't know where Ludwig has described Donald as his only living relative or nephew, but that wouldn't make sense no matter where you place Ludwig on the tree. However (going back to Mehitabel Mudhen), Scrooge describing Donald as his closest living relative could still sort of make sense with Mehitabel being Matilda's daughter. Scrooge would have made those comments during the period when he hadn't seen or heard from Matilda since 1930. Thus, he would probably not have knowledge about any sons or daughters she may have had since then.
I'm really open to any comic artist's comics, as long as it doesn't have Grandma and Scrooge being siblings, or anything contradictory to any of Barks's original stories, but I'm open to see new relatives like Rumpus McFowl be on the tree.
I saw that Disney XD post about Ludwig and Matilda, wouldn't that mean Ludwig's children from Ducktales 2017, be Matilda's children? There isn't any mention of their mother, or anything at all about them. Although on this tree, Ludwig and Matilda are married, and I guess that fits too, with the context of Anya, Corvus, and Klara. I'm still confused on how Grandma and Ludwig are cousins, I stated on a different thread that Gertrude Gadwall could be from a Germanic country, but why would one of her relatives stay back in Austria or the country they came from, and marry "Hofrat Von Drake"? I know there was another comic translation that said Ludwig Von Drake was Donald's maternal uncle, but we obviously know he isn't Scrooge's brother, so this could support the Matilda and Ludwig theory.
Sorry, I meant to say Scrooge, instead of Ludwig. Although, does Ludwig have any other nephews/nieces that are confirmed to be his, I haven't read the stories featuring Clementina or Smorfio. It was from a later Barks comic, where Scrooge says something about Donald being his closest relative. I know that we have discussed this on different threads, but I could see that Scrooge was so greedy he lost track of his family, and Hortense and Quackmore possibly died, and Matilda was living, without Scrooge's knowledge. I don't like having Matilda be single for her whole life, she was created originally to be the wife of Goostave Gander, and the adoptive mother of Gladstone, so having her marry Ludwig seems like a good fit, they both are European, both lived in Duckburg at some point, and could easily be put together on the tree, as Matilda doesn't have a spouse on Rosa's tree.
I like the placement of Daphne and Denton together, I know it is mentioned in a Taliaferro comic, but could Daphne had married Denton after Goostave died, or maybe divorced as he is seen to be alive in a comic from 2022.
I don't know if somebody already brought it up, but I just noticed that in Qit/MG 608A, Dugan's parents are said to be "Mary de Papero" and Abner Duck.
Interesting. Though this seems to me as an odd combination of errors. As far as I am aware, "Mary" is a fan-made name for Dugan's mother whose name is never mentioned in any comics, but somehow got mentioned in this article. And I guess that "Abner Duck" is referring here to Whitewater, even though Dugan is supposed to be the son of Fethry's sister, not Fethry's brother.
So, this could probably just be dismissed. Though, since this article gives these names some official status, we could, if we wish, still reflect it in the tree by naming Dugan's mother (and Fethry's sister) "Mary" and Dugan's father "Abner" (though probably another Abner than Whitewater). Cousin Dora (now the name of Fethry's mother on the tree) from YD 38-08-12 would then need to go somewhere else.
Note that Ludwig being placed elsewhere on the tree doesn't prevent him from actually being married to Matilda. I'm just sayin'. Yes, it still needs to be addressed in a proper story, but hopefully someone will do just that one day.
Though, since this article gives these names some official status, we could, if we wish, still reflect it in the tree by naming Dugan's mother (and Fethry's sister) "Mary" and Dugan's father "Abner" (though probably another Abner than Whitewater).
Abner is clearly meant to be Whitewater (as we can deduce from his last name "Duck").
However, I'd rather discard this source entirely because these profiles are full of mistakes or inconsistencies. For example, Qit/MG 600A states that Minnie's original name in English is "Minni Mouse" (without the final "e"). Fair, this might just be a typo, but then Qit/MG 602A claims that The Blot's nationality is "Topolinese" (which probably refers to Mouseton, which is not a nation) and it also says he has a dual citizenship (and two different passports as well), American and Calidornian. Isn't Calidornia supposed to be within America? And then again Qit/MG 600A claims that Mickey's nationality is American (from Calisota). Oooookay?!? So, we have both Calisota inside America and Calidornia outside?? Plus, Qit/MG 606A states that The Twins' mother (named Amelia Fieldmouse) left them to Mickey because she went on a journey to look for their father... Hmm, somebody said "fanfiction"? Qit/MG 609A claims that Gyro is an eagle, Qit/MG 613A states that Eega Beeva is an alien...
I mean: I have no idea about who wrote these, and I have nothing against them personally, but it seems to me that they have been rather creative about the information provided. So, I don't think we should take them into account, even if published in an official magazine.
The indexers also seem slack, the item where Firmina appears is not listed, the appearances of cousin Dynamite Smack are not listed either, I even found a Christmas story where she appears and does not appear (I know they avoid putting characters that appear in a story), but she is even on the official website. featherysociety.proboards.com/thread/1601/hard-haid-moe-family-tree?page=1
Note that Ludwig being placed elsewhere on the tree doesn't prevent him from actually being married to Matilda. I'm just sayin'. Yes, it still needs to be addressed in a proper story, but hopefully someone will do just that one day.
I hope this is addressed, he is a bachelor in The Wonderful World of Disney, so he probably never was married, but he has children in Ducktales 2017, so maybe he did. He is described as Donald's paternal uncle, maternal uncle, Grandma Duck's cousin, or maybe he really isn't even related, I heard someone on Youtube say that he could have walked into a Duck Family Reunion and became an honorary uncle.
I don't really accept that he is Donald's paternal uncle, unless he is a half-brother, because Ludwig's mother is different from Grandma Duck (she is heard in House of Mouse), and his family was Austrian, rather than the American Duck and Coot family. Plus, it is said Donald took his mother's maiden name 'Duck', which isn't true, it's McDuck, this had been established years before Ludwig was even created.
Note that Ludwig being placed elsewhere on the tree doesn't prevent him from actually being married to Matilda. I'm just sayin'. Yes, it still needs to be addressed in a proper story, but hopefully someone will do just that one day.
I don't really accept that he is Donald's paternal uncle, unless he is a half-brother, because Ludwig's mother is different from Grandma Duck (she is heard in House of Mouse), and his family was Austrian, rather than the American Duck and Coot family. Plus, it is said Donald took his mother's maiden name 'Duck', which isn't true, it's McDuck, this had been established years before Ludwig was even created.
Well, even though that version of Donald's parentage does come from Walt Disney himself... absolutely no one in the history of Duck comics or even cartoons has gone with it. It's basically a factoid that went nowhere, a form of "Early Installement Weirdness" that we should feel free to ignore.
I don't really accept that he is Donald's paternal uncle, unless he is a half-brother, because Ludwig's mother is different from Grandma Duck (she is heard in House of Mouse), and his family was Austrian, rather than the American Duck and Coot family. Plus, it is said Donald took his mother's maiden name 'Duck', which isn't true, it's McDuck, this had been established years before Ludwig was even created.
Well, even though that version of Donald's parentage does come from Walt Disney himself... absolutely no one in the history of Duck comics or even cartoons has gone with it. It's basically a factoid that went nowhere, a form of "Early Installement Weirdness" that we should feel free to ignore.
But we have an official family tree where is shown that he's related, why ignore it?
Well, even though that version of Donald's parentage does come from Walt Disney himself... absolutely no one in the history of Duck comics or even cartoons has gone with it. It's basically a factoid that went nowhere, a form of "Early Installement Weirdness" that we should feel free to ignore.
But we have an official family tree where is shown that he's related, why ignore it?
I meant specifically the idea that Ludwig is the brother of Donald's father, who took his mother's surname (because his dad was a deadbeat). Absolutely nobody used that backstory, ever.
Well, even though that version of Donald's parentage does come from Walt Disney himself... absolutely no one in the history of Duck comics or even cartoons has gone with it. It's basically a factoid that went nowhere, a form of "Early Installement Weirdness" that we should feel free to ignore.
But we have an official family tree where is shown that he's related, why ignore it?
For clarity's sake, this is the only official Duck family tree in which Ludwig appears: A few things are off with this tree. Notably, most characters use their DuckTales 2017 designs, which probably means that this family tree is only relevant to that universe... except for the fact that Donald and Daisy are portrayed in their Mickey Mouse Clubhouse designs. Then there's the fact that the tree has Matilda being married to Ludwig. Even though both characters appear in Ducktales 2017, they never interact and there is no indication that they would be married. In fact, Ludwig has three off-spring in the show, yet they are never stated to be related to Matilda.
Finally, you'll spot a line going from Scrooge to Webby, May, and June. This line is meant to represent the fact that the girls are clones of Scrooge. Also, Webby's birth name is April. This relation between April, May, June and Scrooge should not affect our understanding of their relationship in the "main universe", just as this family tree's connection between Matilda and Ludwig should not affect our understanding of their relationship in the "main universe".
Yes, it still needs to be addressed in a proper story, but hopefully someone will do just that one day.