about Doofus, in this story inducks.org/story.php?c=S+89020 Doofus, Gladstone and Scrooge refeers to Launchpad as... DOOFUS' FATHER! So, I've only readen the italian version and maybe in other languages it is different, is there anyone with the story?
did anyone have the brazilian version where the story was published for the first time?
about Doofus, in this story inducks.org/story.php?c=S+89020 Doofus, Gladstone and Scrooge refeers to Launchpad as... DOOFUS' FATHER! So, I've only readen the italian version and maybe in other languages it is different, is there anyone with the story?
Do you have a scan of this story? It would be interesting to see, even though Doofus's father isn't Launchpad in the 2017 series.
about Doofus, in this story inducks.org/story.php?c=S+89020 Doofus, Gladstone and Scrooge refeers to Launchpad as... DOOFUS' FATHER! So, I've only readen the italian version and maybe in other languages it is different, is there anyone with the story?
did anyone have the brazilian version where the story was published for the first time?
I had checked this story years ago. It's his father ONLY in the Italian version.
about Doofus, in this story inducks.org/story.php?c=S+89020 Doofus, Gladstone and Scrooge refeers to Launchpad as... DOOFUS' FATHER! So, I've only readen the italian version and maybe in other languages it is different, is there anyone with the story?
Do you have a scan of this story? It would be interesting to see, even though Doofus's father isn't Launchpad in the 2017 series.
I have some difficulties with scans , but if you look on inducks there's a part on the first page where Doofus talks about Launchpad as his father
In that case, I'll see what I can figure out, but I'm not inherently against the idea I think the main thing would be figuring out the context and whatnot, and just how much stock should be placed on it
Here is the full article related to evolution, for the context in which it is published. There is also some Goofy evolution in it.
Excellent, thank you! It will certainly be helpful for the evolution project As for its relevance here... I'm a bit iffy, but I'd lean towards leaving it. It can be seen that Young Donald is playing the role of Darwin - as seen on the second page. As such, it's not something we can really ground; we could fairly safely say that it's Darwin comparing the features of a 'modern duck' with those of an earlier stage in evolution. I don't say it definitively, but I think we can say that it's not a strong enough link to tie Tom in
D 2008-060 A guy called Ronald claims to be Donald's cousin, and his family are basically a copy of Donald's. Scrooge doesn't trust them, and thinks that they're a branch that tricked his own. Scrooge says the following: "Your ancestors played the con on my great-great-grandfather's great-grandfather and got the lousy field! I bet you wanted to play the con on me!"
The family don't recognize any of the mentioned relatives, and Donald comes to realize that Ronald just assumed they were related because they have the same last name - however, they're not actually related.
If nothing else, though, we know of Scrooge's distant ancestor, and an ancestor that scammed him. I would assume they're the two pictured, but that's speculative. This is the Brazilian version, so I don't know if that tracks with the original.
Both the French and German version mention for Scrooge a great-great-grandfather. See here. So, that's maybe what's also mentioned in the original.
Ahh, interesting. Being honest, I feel like my translation of the Brazilian Portuguese may have been off - I'd be happy to leave it as GGGrandfather too.
D 25251 is an odd case - it suggests Little Helper having family members. You could initially write it off as just a cover, but the French version from Les Trésors de Picsou 21 actually gives a description.
If you still want to write it off (which we maybe have to do, since Little Helper cannot really be Gyro's clone and have his own ancestors at the same time), then you can still argue that the French version says "... photographies qui suggèrent qu'il a une fiancée, des ancêtres et même des copains...", so the photos only suggest that they are his fiancée, ancestors and friends, which means that they not necessarily are.
Honestly, that's a fair cop. Though it does make me wonder - what's the stance on Laurinha Filamento? We don't see how Gyro creates her, but there's no reason to assume it's not along the same lines as Little Helper.
Both the French and German version mention for Scrooge a great-great-grandfather. See here. So, that's maybe what's also mentioned in the original.
For what it's worth, in the Swedish version this ancestor is said to be Scrooge's paternal grandfather's maternal grandfather... so that's another one with "Scrooge's great-great-grandfather".
Does anyone know of any other Taliaferro or similar relatives that could be canon to Barks/Rosa universe, maybe Bhaltair McDuck, or another younger cousin of HDL, such as Cousin Sock. Since Barks used Taliaferro created characters, such as Gus Goose and Grandma Duck, maybe it's possible for other Duck family members to be canon to Rosa/Barks's universe. Cornelius Coot's younger years, his parents could be canon, and obviously Humperdink and Downy's parents.
Does anyone know of any other Taliaferro or similar relatives that could be canon to Barks/Rosa universe, maybe Bhaltair McDuck, or another younger cousin of HDL, such as Cousin Sock. Since Barks used Taliaferro created characters, such as Gus Goose and Grandma Duck, maybe it's possible for other Duck family members to be canon to Rosa/Barks's universe. Cornelius Coot's younger years, his parents could be canon, and obviously Humperdink and Downy's parents.
There's a thread on this forum, Duck relatives from Al Taliaferro strips, which in some ways is a precursor to this one. I personally think most Taliaferro-relatives are compatible with Barks/Rosa.
However, Bhaltair McDuck is a problem, since in The Last of the Clan McDuck Fergus and Jake believe that they + Scrooge and Angus are the last male McDucks alive. Scrooge's grandmother Gianna (whom we currently have placed as Downy's mother) is from the story book I Pensieri Di... Paperone, which appears to be largely incompatible with Rosa's Life and Times. But the parents of Cornelius Coot and Humperdink should fit in mostly fine!
Does anyone know of any other Taliaferro or similar relatives that could be canon to Barks/Rosa universe, maybe Bhaltair McDuck, or another younger cousin of HDL, such as Cousin Sock. Since Barks used Taliaferro created characters, such as Gus Goose and Grandma Duck, maybe it's possible for other Duck family members to be canon to Rosa/Barks's universe. Cornelius Coot's younger years, his parents could be canon, and obviously Humperdink and Downy's parents.
There's a thread on this forum, Duck relatives from Al Taliaferro strips, which in some ways is a precursor to this one. I personally think most Taliaferro-relatives are compatible with Barks/Rosa.
However, Bhaltair McDuck is a problem, since in The Last of the Clan McDuck Fergus and Jake believe that they + Scrooge and Angus are the last male McDucks alive. Scrooge's grandmother Gianna (whom we currently have placed as Downy's mother) is from the story book I Pensieri Di... Paperone, which appears to be largely incompatible with Rosa's Life and Times. But the parents of Cornelius Coot and Humperdink should fit in mostly fine!
I can see how Bhaltair McDuck wouldn't really fit in, but I really like the modern stories about Cornelius's Dutch roots, I believe that goes well with him. I think that goes for Daniel/Bluffer Duck as well, being Donald's great-grandfather. I could see other Taliaferro relatives being canon, to the Rosa tree, like Cousin Sock being Gus Goose's nephew. I guess you could add Shamrock Gander, and maybe a sibling to Gladstone then, I personally like the idea of having Shamrock and HDL being rivals like their uncles.
I guess that leaves Eider Duck and his wife Lulubelle, whether Fethry is really canon or not, but I think since Rosa uses him on his personal tree that would possibly mean so. I would maybe add Taliaferro's created characters, Lizzie, or maybe another cousin.
According to some early sketches that Scarpa did when conceiving "Zio Paperone e il nipote ideale", the English name for Baldo de' Paperi ("Baldwin Von Drake" in Maurice's tree) seems to be "Ellsworth".
I tried making an "updated version" of the tree, but I don't know where to put Mehitabel Mudhen, since Mudhens are related to Coots, I put her on the Coot side. As for Eider, I want to include his wife Lulubelle and Fethry, but I remember reading that Fethry was a distant cousin, as well as Whitewater, so who could be Eider's 'wife and children', in the main comics universe (ie Rosa, Barks, Taliaferro, etc.), is there another aunt of Donald's that could be his wife?
I tried making an "updated version" of the tree, but I don't know where to put Mehitabel Mudhen, since Mudhens are related to Coots, I put her on the Coot side. As for Eider, I want to include his wife Lulubelle and Fethry, but I remember reading that Fethry was a distant cousin, as well as Whitewater, so who could be Eider's 'wife and children', in the main comics universe (ie Rosa, Barks, Taliaferro, etc.), is there another aunt of Donald's that could be his wife?
I'm curious about what branch of the Coot family tree you put Mehitabel Mudhen. How exactly have you connected her to the Coots, I mean? My personal favorite placement for Mehitabel Mudhen is as the daughter of Matilda McDuck.
When placing Fethry, Whitewater, and Lulubelle on the "ultimate" Duck family tree, this was our thinking: Fethry and Donald are supposed to be distantly related, and Whitewater is specifically referred to as a distant cousin to Donald. Yet, Eider was shown to be the brother of Quackmore. Thus, having Eider as the cousins' father doesn't really make sense. In fact, the only thing connecting Fethry and Whitewater to Eider is Rosa's tree. When it comes to Lulubelle Loon, she appears to have been designed with Fethry in mind, so keeping her as Fethry's mother makes sense.
Currently on the "ultimate" Duck family tree, Eider is married to Donald and Gladstone's Aunt Agnes from Good Graces. We've placed them as the parents of Fred and Lizzie Duck. If you want to limit the choices to relatives only appearing in Taliaferro-, Barks-, or Rosa-stories, I don't think there are any appropriate wives for Eider.
I tried making an "updated version" of the tree, but I don't know where to put Mehitabel Mudhen, since Mudhens are related to Coots, I put her on the Coot side. As for Eider, I want to include his wife Lulubelle and Fethry, but I remember reading that Fethry was a distant cousin, as well as Whitewater, so who could be Eider's 'wife and children', in the main comics universe (ie Rosa, Barks, Taliaferro, etc.), is there another aunt of Donald's that could be his wife?
I'm curious about what branch of the Coot family tree you put Mehitabel Mudhen. How exactly have you connected her to the Coots, I mean? My personal favorite placement for Mehitabel Mudhen is as the daughter of Matilda McDuck.
When placing Fethry, Whitewater, and Lulubelle on the "ultimate" Duck family tree, this was our thinking: Fethry and Donald are supposed to be distantly related, and Whitewater is specifically referred to as a distant cousin to Donald. Yet, Eider was shown to be the brother of Quackmore. Thus, having Eider as the cousins' father doesn't really make sense. In fact, the only thing connecting Fethry and Whitewater to Eider is Rosa's tree. When it comes to Lulubelle Loon, she appears to have been designed with Fethry in mind, so keeping her as Fethry's mother makes sense.
Currently on the "ultimate" Duck family tree, Eider is married to Donald and Gladstone's Aunt Agnes from Good Graces. We've placed them as the parents of Fred and Lizzie Duck. If you want to limit the choices to relatives only appearing in Taliaferro-, Barks-, or Rosa-stories, I don't think there are any appropriate wives for Eider.
On the tree I made I added Mehitabel Mudhen as a grandchild of a Grandma Duck's sister from a Bob Gregory comic, even though it's by a different comic artist. I put her on this branch, because I din't like her as Cuthbert's daughter, and I wasn't sure if she was a first cousin, so I decided not to make her a daughter of Uncle Eider. I like your theory on Mehitabel being Matilda's daughter, but there are some problems due to Matilda possibly marrying Ludwig Von Drake, and Donald being described as his only living relative/nephew. But since Matilda is living in A Letter From Home, I could see her having a family, just like her sister Hortense did, I would really love to see if she has children or grandchildren out there somewhere.
Lulubelle Loon as Fethry's mother does indeed make sense, but I have just decided to add an unknown aunt for now, because I believe Eider did have children, I am more inclined to think it was Lulubelle, I just like seeing them as Fethry's parents.
It is too bad we never saw Eider's family, of Goostave in any of Rosa's stories, having Grandma Duck have other children and grandchildren, makes it quite strange they don't visit, or they might have died. But I believe Goostave is is living, but he could have died, as there was a Rosa story where Grandma Duck is mentioned to be Gladstone's closest living relative, I guess that would mean Shamrock Gander is a cousin, instead, I think it's also been said Daphne and Goostave only had one son, so maybe Gladstone was the only child.
, but if you look on inducks there's a part on the first page where Doofus talks about Launchpad as his father
