I'm sorry if this has already been covered, but I just watched the third episode of DuckTales and there is this picture on a wall in Scrooge's mansion. I know there are often pictures of random people in the background of comics, but it's rare that one of the protagonists is with them in the picture. These guys look like they are supposed to be Scrooge's brothers.
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I'm sorry if this has already been covered, but I just watched the third episode of DuckTales and there is this picture on a wall in Scrooge's mansion. I know there are often pictures of random people in the background of comics, but it's rare that one of the protagonists is with them in the picture. These guys look like they are supposed to be Scrooge's brothers.
So, before anything else - Magali ought to be added as a niece of Magica (Maga Patalójika). Nice find - I need to give this book a more thorough read.
Adding Magali is not so straightforward. Magali namely isn't just some random one-time-occuring duck, but this Magali is in English called Witch Child. And Witch Child is, in the S-coded stories she first appeared in, not related to Magica, despite the fact that she often calles Magica her aunt. It gets all quite confusing regarding Witch Child, since different authors have given her very different appearances, who then in translations have gotten very different names. Resulting in B-coded stories in which the two Witch Child characters are considered different characters, and even have appeared together within one story. She has been discussed before on this forum. See for example here.
I'm sorry if this has already been covered, but I just watched the third episode of DuckTales and there is this picture on a wall in Scrooge's mansion. I know there are often pictures of random people in the background of comics, but it's rare that one of the protagonists is with them in the picture. These guys look like they are supposed to be Scrooge's brothers.
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Do you remember when specifically in the episode it's spotted? I just gave it a gander but didn't spot it, unless I'm getting mixed up. I'd say, though, that without context, it'd be better to leave them out - while they could be siblings/cousins etc, they could just as easily be business partners, people he sealed a big deal with, people from a news publication etc etc... Does the episode offer anything at all to go on?
So, before anything else - Magali ought to be added as a niece of Magica (Maga Patalójika). Nice find - I need to give this book a more thorough read.
Adding Magali is not so straightforward. Magali namely isn't just some random one-time-occuring duck, but this Magali is in English called Witch Child. And Witch Child is, in the S-coded stories she first appeared in, not related to Magica, despite the fact that she often calles Magica her aunt. It gets all quite confusing regarding Witch Child, since different authors have given her very different appearances, who then in translations have gotten very different names. Resulting in B-coded stories in which the two Witch Child characters are considered different characters, and even have appeared together within one story. She has been discussed before on this forum. See for example here.
Ahh, I see. There's a lot to unpack there So, as I understand it, the situation is as follows: The original character, 'Witch Child', originated in S-Coded stories. She, along with her brother, had at least two distinct character models. In Italian translations (and most likely Brazilian ones too), the two models were treated as different characters due to confusion. Not only did the 'characters' have different names, but even then they weren't always consistent. To be sure, I checked the Brazilian version of the character's first appearance:
Magica gets a letter from her favourite friend, the Wicked Witch of the West. The letter says she's sending her daughter over for a visit. Interestingly, her name is 'Perereca' in this version.
So, a definitive example from her first appearance that 'aunt' is used in a 'family friend' kind of way.
There's also a different version of the character, who first appears in S 69086. The two different versions are drawn by different artists.
There's also a third interpretation, 'Streghella', who, according to PaperPedia, only appeared in I AT 278-B. From what I understand in the linked thread, this is generally regarded to be the earlier character, just with a different name. I haven't read the story, though.
To confuse things further, we have this from B 760006:
Where the two original versions appear sitting beside one another...
So, all that brings me to the main question - given the very confused nature of the character, how do we interpret all of this?
There are a few different elements to consider: One is the original intent - that being that 'Witch Child' was one character, whose brother was Warlock and mother was the Wicked Witch of the West. This all tracks with at least the first appearances of Witch Child. However, as is noted in the original link, there was confusion among authors - some genuinely believed her to be Magica's niece. I think, like with the whole 'Gyro being a cousin' thing, this could be disregarded unless there's some form of concrete evidence provided later (As was done with Archie O'Fly for Gyro)
However, the second version of 'Witch Child' is another question. On the one hand, she was built from a model sheet that was intended for the same character. On the other, her 'character' seems to have been the result of a mistake from the get-go. Unlike the first Witch Child, who was given a proper introduction according to the original character intent, the second version didn't get that. When she was introduced, it was with the different character model, and seemingly with the mistaken understanding that she was Magica's actual niece.
This then begs the question - since pretty much everything about her is a mistake, how do we treat her? I'd argue that, despite the confusion in her 'creation', we should treat this version as a different character - and as Magica's actual niece. Given the appearance in B 760006, it seems that they're treated as different characters, regardless of the original intent.
Them being siblings doesn't make much sense, so I'd say that, unless there's a story with the Schmitz version where she clarifies a lack of actual relation, we should treat the original Fletcher version as intended (No relation to Magica, calls her 'aunt' in a familiar way) while the Schmitz version should be treated as her actual niece. It goes against the original intent, but I'd argue that, given her portrayal and how the two separate versions developed, it makes more sense to treat them as separate characters.
Side note - in trying to understand the whole situation, it turns out that there's another Streghella, who actually seems to be Magica's niece, from I TL 1071-B I don't have access to the story to confirm, but here's here PaperPedia article.
Also, as a side-note, the book does mention another relative - Vovo Patalójika She's described as the 'avó de Maga' - Magica's grandmother. Since two are already documented, she should probably be composited with Granny de Spell, since that's pretty much what her name translates to anyway.
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I don't know if this mystery was ever concluded - but I've been thinking about this statement again recently:
I guess it was Gideon I read about in a "DD Pocket" or in a "Mammut bok" some time ago. It was about a relative of Scrooge (a painterman) who once fleed Duckburg because the Beagle Boys made him show them a hidden passage into Scrooges Money Bin. When he returned he was hiding in Donald's house.
It seems to be generally accepted that it wasn't actually Gideon in this story. I've tried looking for it myself, but I've had no joy - part of the issue is that even being sure of the actual books is difficult. If I understand correctly and it's not a typo, 'Mammut Bok' should be a Norwegian printing. I assume DD Pocket is Dutch, but am not sure which specific publications to look through - if anyone has any idea, help is appreciated.
This is pretty much the last big mystery we have, so while we're steamrolling everything else, I'd like to see if we can crack it
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