I seem to remember it being a Tony Strobl story from the late 1950s.
You are probably referring to Search for Cyril, it's the only story I know by Strobl that mentions Scrooge's grandfather. Anyway, the name was Titus in there.
You are correct. But when Scrooge was describing his own grandfather in a Barks story, he told Donald and his nephews that he didn't know much about his grandfather, but he was a prospector (he may have used the word "Sourdough"). And maybe THAT is why I remembered him as "Sourdough McDuck". But, I see now, that his prospecting grandfather is more likely to have been his MATERNAL grandfather, because Granddaddy Titus was a McDuck (and he was shown wearing a Scots Tam O' Shanter (cap) and a Tartan sash, and a Scots Kilt as a chubby middle-aged man. So, he might have been less likely to have been a prospector in The Americas, New Zealand, South Africa, or Australia, (with the latter 2 locations being the most likely to have him be able to prospect in the same areas as his logger wife. However, if he was Scrooge's maternal grandfather, he wouldn't have been named "Sourdough McDuck".
You are correct. But when Scrooge was describing his own grandfather in a Barks story, he told Donald and his nephews that he didn't know much about his grandfather, but he was a prospector (he may have used the word "Sourdough"). And maybe THAT is why I remembered him as "Sourdough McDuck". But, I see now, that his prospecting grandfather is more likely to have been his MATERNAL grandfather, because Granddaddy Titus was a McDuck (and he was shown wearing a Scots Tam O' Shanter (cap) and a Tartan sash, and a Scots Kilt as a chubby middle-aged man. So, he might have been less likely to have been a prospector in The Americas, New Zealand, South Africa, or Australia, (with the latter 2 locations being the most likely to have him be able to prospect in the same areas as his logger wife. However, if he was Scrooge's maternal grandfather, he wouldn't have been named "Sourdough McDuck".
The grandfather is a miner, not a prospector. The word "sourdough" is not used. Worth noting is that the context of this scene is that Scrooge wants to know of his background and because of this he goes to Castle McDuck in Scotland. Going back to Castle McDuck would be pointless if the miner he mentioned wasn't on the McDuck-side of Scrooge's family. So I think the best solution is to merge this miner-grandfather with Titus, and simply say that Titus is a retired miner. One can wear both a miner's cap and a tam o'shanter at different points in life. This is what I have gone with on my tree. Titus "Dingus" McDuck. In any case, I think it's safe to say that Scrooge's grandfather was not called Sourdough McDuck.
Update #14 I have added Ebeneezer and Ogilvy McDuck, Crockett Duck (I made him a "MacDuck" since he was from the American McDuck-branch), Paperin the cannon operator, three of the four ancestors mentioned by Ludwig von Drake, Volfram Duck, and the Old Timer. I inserted Platiño as Patinhes McDuck's son, as the former is a billionaire and the latter a millionaire. I thought it would make sense that the two rich people in this largely poor clan are closely related! In the end I elected to place the not-Grandma duck as Scrooge's sister Evelyn. The unidentified duck lady is placed as her daughter. I think that makes the most sense, given the context. In addition I've added the image of Botcho Gearloose and named Gyro's great-grandfather Kakelbester.
Update #14 I have added Ebeneezer and Ogilvy McDuck, Crockett Duck (I made him a "MacDuck" since he was from the American McDuck-branch), Paperin the cannon operator, three of the four ancestors mentioned by Ludwig von Drake, Volfram Duck, and the Old Timer. I inserted Platiño as Patinhes McDuck's son, as the former is a billionaire and the latter a millionaire. I thought it would make sense that the two rich people in this largely poor clan are closely related! In the end I elected to place the not-Grandma duck as Scrooge's sister Evelyn. The unidentified duck lady is placed as her daughter. I think that makes the most sense, given the context. In addition I've added the image of Botcho Gearloose and named Gyro's great-grandfather Kakelbester.
Just noticed that "Evelyn" incredibly resembles Matilda. So, since Evelyn is not a real character (but rather a translation invention), she could still Scrooge's sister, but one we already know of. We can assume that she might visit Scrooge for his birthdays after they riconciliate in Rosa's story.
That Christmas story with 'cousin Volfram' looks like it's drawn by the great Carlos Mota! I'll have to check if it has been published in the Netherlands yet (through it probably hasn't). And, incidentally that Astrup/Cavazzano story with Magica's backstory sounds fun too. I actually made a Magica family tree years ago, but from what I gathered, Astrup's new story doesnt fit with those older Italian stories with nonna Caraldina and Minima etc., so it's probably no use to try and update it, haha. But I'm glad they allowed Astrup the creative freedom to come up with her own version of things, and of course I'm a great fan of Cavazzano's artwork.
Anyway, I figured maybe that cousin Volfram guy could be the son of Sven and Gerta, since they're also from Sweden? That would make him Donald's cousin-once-removed, I think, so close enough to a cousin.
And there's also another Dutch ancestor of Scrooge's, who might fit with your ducth 'Van Duck-'branch picsou.fandom.com/fr/wiki/Anc%C3%AAtre_hollandais_de_Picsou Maybe he could be Schylar Van Duck's father or brother (if that fits time-wise).
And finally, there's also Grandpa Duck's family, who could be seen in an animated special, 'Your Host, Donald Duck' from the '50s
PS: 'Gertrude Ganzelever', Grandma Duck's magical ancestor, should be Ganzenlever, with an n.
Just noticed that "Evelyn" incredibly resembles Matilda. So, since Evelyn is not a real character (but rather a translation invention), she could still Scrooge's sister, but one we already know of. We can assume that she might visit Scrooge for his birthdays after they riconciliate in Rosa's story.
Oh, wait. Is Evelyn just a translation-invented character? I didn't know that. In that case I shouldn't count her on the tree. I don't consider translation-invented characters real either. I agree that she looks enough like Matilda to be her. But in that case, I might want to move the unidentified duck lady, as she might not fit with Matilda and Ludwig's other offspring.
Anyway, I figured maybe that cousin Volfram guy could be the son of Sven and Gerta, since they're also from Sweden? That would make him Donald's cousin-once-removed, I think, so close enough to a cousin.
And there's also another Dutch ancestor of Scrooge's, who might fit with your ducth 'Van Duck-'branch picsou.fandom.com/fr/wiki/Anc%C3%AAtre_hollandais_de_Picsou Maybe he could be Schylar Van Duck's father or brother (if that fits time-wise).
And finally, there's also Grandpa Duck's family, who could be seen in an animated special, 'Your Host, Donald Duck' from the '50s
PS: 'Gertrude Ganzelever', Grandma Duck's magical ancestor, should be Ganzenlever, with an n.
I don't think it's ever stated that Volfram is Swedish. However, if he turns out to be Swedish, I would completely agree with you.
I've seen that Dutch ancestor before, but I didn't know where he fits chronologically, so I guess I didn't place him anywhere.
The image you linked doesn't work, but I'm very curious to see it! Please try to post it again!
The link didn't work this time either, but I found the page and image you're talking about! I've seen this wife- and child-character before. I decided that it would be best to merge the wife with Grandma Hortensia. However, if people aren't too keen on merging Hortensia and the wife, I could be persuaded to move the No Hunting-Grandpa and his wife back one generation (so that the wife is Asa Duck's sister).
Astrup's new story doesnt fit with those older Italian stories with nonna Caraldina and Minima etc.
How come? Her story doesn't mention grandparents but they still could exist. She only introduces her parents and aunt.
The story implies that only her mother side has magic (technically the story doesn't deny that the father's side has magic, but his reactions look to me as if Magica's dad didn't know magic prior to his marriage). So MdS' grandmas (Caraldina and S stories') can't both exist, unless you consider them different.
Another incongruence is that Maya's story show Magica growing in a non-magic house, where she seeks magic knowledge denied by her uncle. Instead other stories show Magica growing in magic houses
I thought everyone on this tree was included, but I seems to have missed Gotthold Gans. According to Gilles Maurice's family tree page, both Scrooge and Rockerduck inherit from him. This would indicate that he was an ancestor of both of them. Currently, I have the two of them connected via Pat Davison's grandmother (who is also Silas McDuck's sister), so Gotthold Gans would have to be further back in time than that. I know that Gans means Goose, which is a surname that none of the McDuck-ancestors are connected to. Maybe Gans/Goose could be Diamond Lil's surname and maybe Gotthold is her brother? This way, Gotthold would be both Scrooge and Rockerduck's great-great-great-granduncle, and both of them would most likely inherit the same amount.
Gotthold Gans originates from The Battle of the Big Spenders. If anyone has more information (or an alternate suggestion of where Gohhold could fit on the tree), please let me know.
Gotthold Gans originates from The Battle of the Big Spenders. If anyone has more information (or an alternate suggestion of where Gohhold could fit on the tree), please let me know.
I read this story in Finnish and in Portuguese and yes, an inheritance is involved, but they aren't related with the man. He was just a fellow billionaire that they both knew.
I finally managed to read a copy of Marovelli, Paolini and Saccomano’s Introduzione a Paperino (1974), which is one of the first deep analyses of Barks’ work. Of course, there are some minor errors justified by the early stage and their time (eg. they consider Flintheart and Rockerduck as the same person), but they do a great job considering almost every Barks’ story (and every Barks' character) in depth under a psychological and sociological lens. It may be argued that they over-read his comics (and it might be true as Barks probably didn’t consider all this stuff while writing), but they also acknowledge previous research like Gans’ Die Ducks (1970) and Dorfman and Mattelart's Para leer al Pato Donald (1971), showing those texts’ weaknesses and the mistakes in their subjective visions; and I actually find the (Italian) authors’ approach interesting and deep (eg. I think this is the only place where I read that Magica’s village is called Sulphuria, other than in the Barks’ story). They also conceived a detailed Duckburg map based on Barks’ places, and a family tree (which I have never seen online before and therefore is the reason I am posting here).
So, as you can see, they theorize a common origin (that I deem it should be McTavish Duck, ancestor of Donald, Scrooge and Gladstone); Scrooge's sisters are like Barks early tree (I am not sure if they did know it, but the Matilda-Goosetave connection is clear); they consider HDL as Donald's brother's and Cousin Anitra's sons (Anitra = Della), considering the relationship suggested by Taliaferro (oh, and through the book they suppose their father to be dead at the hospital after the explosion; p. 228); I don't understand why they have Grandma Duck as a unmarried woman with no child, and therefore have her as Donald's and Daisy's grandfathers' sister, suggesting a cousinhood between the two of them. Other than that, you can see how their tree is not too dissimilar to Rosa's, Clairwater (sic!) is Quackmore's nephew and so is Gus (as Barks' and Rosa's true intentions); they also keep track of Daisy's aunts and Scrooge's uncles and I find this project enjoyable (and thanks to them they didn't try to fit Cornelius Coot in it!). They also hint at a possible Scrooge-Gyro relationship ("Probabilmente egli [Gyro] è il frutto di una qualche relazione illecita di una delle sorelle o cugine di zio Paperone, dal quale di tanto in tanto è foraggiato con il pretesto di acquistare le sue invenzioni."; p. 16).
I don't know if the book has ever been reprinted outside Italy (I remember The Barks Collector referred to it back in the days), but it sure is worth a reading (at least!).