Post by alquackskey on Jun 25, 2023 20:09:12 GMT
Excellent work, as always! It feels amazing to me that we're inching closer to having Sir Eider on the board - having all of the Rosa-approved relatives on there is an insane milestone, one that I can't believe we may actually reach!
I'll have the index prepared soon; lots of reorganizing to do, so I want to make sure I move everything correctly
There's one note I'd like to raise, though, just while it's in my head:
So, a number of ancestors from Ducktales '17 have been added to the board. I'm in possession of a book around the series - it's called "Ducktales: Solving Mysteries and Rewriting History!"
Amazon says the authors are Rob Renzetti and Rachel Vine - to my knowledge, only the latter was actually involved with Ducktales '17 as a writer.
As such, I don't know how much the information from the book actually tracks with the intentions of Angones and Youngberg - worth keeping note of.
So, the book doesn't actually list any new characters, to my knowledge. I read it when it first came out, and nothing stood out to me outside of a possible connection that I'll get to (Though will probably be disregarded as it's purely speculative)
So, most of it is either a fact file around the show, gags around concepts relating to the show or a recap of certain episodes from the perspectives of relevant characters.
There's one section around the Clan McDuck - I can upload more scans if people want, but I'll just do a brief summary.
The timeline, as written by Scrooge, only gives one year per ancestor - it starts off with Sir Eider at 946 CE, so one would assume it's going by years of death. This is further enforced by Quackly and Murdoch at 1057 and 1066, respectively.
Then we have Stuft at 1189, Roast at 1205, Swamphole at 1220, Black Donald at 1440, Simon at 1500, family losing the castle at 1675, Seafoam at 1727, "Scrooge helped family buy back castle and rid the castle of the Whiskervilles" in the 1800s, Silas in the 1800s ("Silas conned Druids out of building a new Stonehenge on McDuck land"), Dirty Dingus in the 1800s, and finally Fergus and Downey McDuck (No time listed).
As a note, every character has a one or two sentence summary, which is where the quotes above come from.
There's also a family tree with lots of blotting out:
Finally, there's a clearer shot of Webby's board. Now, I'm presuming this is the exact same one as we see on the show, which is why I wanted to bring this up:
Under Sir Quackly is Sir Elder, not Sir Eider.
I would have passed this off as a mistake, but the book repeatedly refers to Sir Eider correctly - which brings up the question of 'Sir Elder'.
Should it just be ignored as a mistake, as it's near definitely supposed to be Sir Eider? Mark him as a separate character? Composite him into Sir Eider's character when we get that far?
I'm probably overthinking it, but I felt it worth bringing up.
As for the baseless speculation, I'd feel confident in assuming that Drake Mallard was going to be tied in through Molly Mallard - either as a relation of Jake or Angus.
That entire section of the tree isn't just splatted, it's entirely covered with ink. Given how Darkwing as a whole was treated in the series, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest.
Again, though, pure speculation - but worth bringing up.
(My own personal notes on Darkwing's relations would make it very unlikely that he's a relative of the Ducks, at least through that side of the family, though not impossible)
I'll have the index prepared soon; lots of reorganizing to do, so I want to make sure I move everything correctly
There's one note I'd like to raise, though, just while it's in my head:
So, a number of ancestors from Ducktales '17 have been added to the board. I'm in possession of a book around the series - it's called "Ducktales: Solving Mysteries and Rewriting History!"
Amazon says the authors are Rob Renzetti and Rachel Vine - to my knowledge, only the latter was actually involved with Ducktales '17 as a writer.
As such, I don't know how much the information from the book actually tracks with the intentions of Angones and Youngberg - worth keeping note of.
So, the book doesn't actually list any new characters, to my knowledge. I read it when it first came out, and nothing stood out to me outside of a possible connection that I'll get to (Though will probably be disregarded as it's purely speculative)
So, most of it is either a fact file around the show, gags around concepts relating to the show or a recap of certain episodes from the perspectives of relevant characters.
There's one section around the Clan McDuck - I can upload more scans if people want, but I'll just do a brief summary.
The timeline, as written by Scrooge, only gives one year per ancestor - it starts off with Sir Eider at 946 CE, so one would assume it's going by years of death. This is further enforced by Quackly and Murdoch at 1057 and 1066, respectively.
Then we have Stuft at 1189, Roast at 1205, Swamphole at 1220, Black Donald at 1440, Simon at 1500, family losing the castle at 1675, Seafoam at 1727, "Scrooge helped family buy back castle and rid the castle of the Whiskervilles" in the 1800s, Silas in the 1800s ("Silas conned Druids out of building a new Stonehenge on McDuck land"), Dirty Dingus in the 1800s, and finally Fergus and Downey McDuck (No time listed).
As a note, every character has a one or two sentence summary, which is where the quotes above come from.
There's also a family tree with lots of blotting out:
Finally, there's a clearer shot of Webby's board. Now, I'm presuming this is the exact same one as we see on the show, which is why I wanted to bring this up:
Under Sir Quackly is Sir Elder, not Sir Eider.
I would have passed this off as a mistake, but the book repeatedly refers to Sir Eider correctly - which brings up the question of 'Sir Elder'.
Should it just be ignored as a mistake, as it's near definitely supposed to be Sir Eider? Mark him as a separate character? Composite him into Sir Eider's character when we get that far?
I'm probably overthinking it, but I felt it worth bringing up.
As for the baseless speculation, I'd feel confident in assuming that Drake Mallard was going to be tied in through Molly Mallard - either as a relation of Jake or Angus.
That entire section of the tree isn't just splatted, it's entirely covered with ink. Given how Darkwing as a whole was treated in the series, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest.
Again, though, pure speculation - but worth bringing up.
(My own personal notes on Darkwing's relations would make it very unlikely that he's a relative of the Ducks, at least through that side of the family, though not impossible)