Post by farmspirit on Apr 26, 2021 11:00:26 GMT
Apr 26, 2021 9:49:44 GMT LP said:
Hi, I just read through these last few posts and came up with some options.About Baldwin von Drake... I realized that the best way to make Baldwin a part of the von Drake-family while still making him Scrooge's grand-nephew is probably to make him a grandson of Ludwig and Matilda McDuck. However, Ludwig's current position on my tree is based on him being a cousin of Grandma; meaning that he is one generation below Matilda. I could fix this by moving Klara, Anya, and Corvus up one generation to be Ludwig and Matilda's offspring, and then Baldwin would be Corvus' son. However, Ludwig's offspring look to be in their 50s. It feels weird to put them in the same generation as Donald. Does anyone have a good solution for this?
Maybe the simplest solution is to keep it as is, and simply draw a skewed line from Matilda to Ludwig... that would be rather ugly, though...
(I've gone over this before, but this is all because Scrooge and his siblings are pretty much as old as Grandma and Ludwig, and belong in their generation. This is all because Hortense had kids rather late in life...)
I think that adding a blood relation between Scrooge and Baldo, and and the same time maintinig his relation near Ludwig will only mess the things. In the italian stories Scrooge is often regarded as the patriarch of the Ducks' family, so him calling a young member of the extended family his nepew wouldn't be too strange.
If it doesn't work, putting Baldo as Hortense and Ludwig son/grandson is the second best. Expect for the difference in generation height, which would mess the tree.
Smorfio is also ok if you put him in the Donald generation. I pointed the thing only because having him and Baldo brothers looked a little too stretched, but if they are from two different lines, they can be closer. It's up to you. I would keep him there or on Donald level.
I also wanted to talk about the Gone With the Wind-ancestors. They clearly belong in the same generation as Donald's great-grandfather Danial "Bluffer" Duck, who was active during the civil war. However, there aren't anymore open slots for them. Donald Butler would logically have an offspring (probably a daughter) named Butler, who would be Donald Duck's grandmother... but we know that Donald's grandmothers' surnames are Coot and O'Drake... So Donald Butler can't be a great-grandfather to Donald. It seems like a placement similar to what Gilles Maurice did would work the best. The surname "McPaper" pops up in the story as Donald Butler's maternal uncle's name (if I understood correctly), and could possibly be translated into McDuck, which could tie the Butlers into the tree. What do you folks think about that?
Maybe we could put Donald Butler as Danial "Bluffer" Duck's father-in-law, assuming that Danial married a woman younger that him? It wouldn't be too strange for the time, maybe it was a second marriage or the war took him away from pursuing a love life in young age, so he had to marry more older, when the only maritable women were younger than him.
About "mcPaper", we don't know if he is the maternal uncle, but is a plausible supposition, being that the different surnames means they can't be sharing an only male line.
Oh yeah, and Duckpaper McPaperduck's name is based off of what I read on his Picsou Wiki article. However, I agree that the name sounds stupid.
Bizarre. Probably Martina wanted to use some simil-english, creating something that result really strange now.
Apr 26, 2021 10:00:12 GMT LP said:
Only a question: what are the time-limits in which you want the relatives? I've read you said Seventeen century, but if you want I have ancestors who lived before. And also after, because there are descendants of the Ducks family who are shown in leaps of a century, arriving up to the year 2617. Well, technically they are descendants from one of the possible timelines, which now doesn't exist anymore because Scrooge destroyed a box.
Maybe I could do a separate thing for the more ancient relatives. But that would have to be sometime in the future.
I understand, the 1700 line is a good point where to stop recording, allowing enough generations, but not going in the impossible numbers. Plus generally that is a point where amateur genealogists stops, so it fits also in real life lore.
The descendants that I was thinking are mainly from La Nuova Storia e Gloria della dinastia dei Paperi, published in 2017, which continue in the future the saga of Storia and Gloria. Thankz to the magic power of the coins, the ducks are able to see glimps of the future. There are also future version of the duck-cast, some confirmed to be descendants, some left untold.