Quick one: I've been able to read 'Donald and Duckolde' in English, finally. On one of the final pages, Donald refers to her as 'Princess Daisy' - and, in the same panel, King Duckmark refers to her as 'Duckolde'.
Should we then assume that, in English, her name is Daisy Duckolde?
It's probably just a mistake, seeing as it's the only time she's referred to as Daisy, but I felt it was worth bringing up.
Clearly, her full name is Duckolde, the Princess of Daisy.
Or maybe Princess is actually her name and she just happens to be a princess
Also, another quick one: I've also read I AT 325-A, The Strange Case of Dr. Duckell and Mr. Duckhyde in English. The Grandma expy is currently down as being unnamed, but the English version explicitly refers to her as 'Grandma Duckson-McDuck'
It doesn't change anything as far as the actual characters go, but the option for the surname is there
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So, as mentioned previously, I got some of my names from the Irish publications, which we have confirmed have slightly different translations to some of the printings. I've read a different English version of I TL 162-AP (The Digital release), and can confirm the names are different, and would like to touch on an odd translation error in both: So, as we know, Huey is red, Dewey is blue and Louie is green. In the Irish version, Huey Aramis is green, Dewey Athos is blue and Louie Porthos is red. In the Digital version, Atos-Hewey is blue, Aramis-Dewey is green and Portos-Lewey is red.
Also in the digital version, Donald Ducktargnan is Donald D'Ucktagnan And Captain Thirtyville is Captain de Thirtiville
Don't know which version you'd prefer to stick with, but I thought I'd bring up the discrepancy
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Edit to aovid double post: H 2022-494 (The Recluse's Testament) is all about Daisy's late great uncle Dobus van Diggelen. In the story, Daisy looks through a photo album which may or may not contain more Daisy relatives.
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In the cartoon No Hunting, there is a quick cut-away joke to Donald's mother who is also modeled on Whistler's Mother. I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before. This one is canon... or at least canon enough to be a part of this Tree project.
Edit to aovid double post: H 2022-494 (The Recluse's Testament) is all about Daisy's late great uncle Dobus van Diggelen. In the story, Daisy looks through a photo album which may or may not contain more Daisy relatives.
I'm down to mark 'Donald's Mother' in the spreadsheet, at least! It'll be marked upon the next update
Also very interested in H 2022-494; hopefully I might be able to track it down when INDUCKS is back up
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Apologies again to double-post, but I've been musing over The Legend of the Three Caballeros and was wondering about some details.
In Mt. Fuji Whiz, Clinton talks about being a descendant of Don Dugo. He then launches into an explanation as to how, after learning of his ancestry, he scoured every library he could, learning more about the legendary caballeros. He refers to the caballeros as being Don Dugo's band of brothers - which, to me, would imply that Dugo and his partners were the first caballeros. This is all well and good, but in the montage of Clinton's research, we see this image:
So, by that metric, surely the Caballeros must have ancestors further back than Don Dugo and co? The show kind of implies that it's supposed to be the same crew, but that doesn't really line up with what we see. If it helps, Clinton's specific quote: "The knowledge that I was a descendant of the legendary adventurer, Don Dugo, sent me on the journey of a lifetime! I became a globe-trotting archaeologist, devoted to Don Dugo's band of brothers, The Three Caballeros! There was no library I would not go to, no matter where it was, what its landing policies were or whether or not it was open on weekends - I learned all that could be learned about the brave heroes and the mysterious goddess who helped them!"
So maybe the image is just an oddity, as it seems pretty heavily implied that there was only one team of Caballeros... but maybe not? Xandra says in the series opening that when things were at their darkest, a new light appeared - and it started with The Three Caballeros. We then see a flash-forward of the guys fighting Felldrake, and then the series rewinds to the beginning. In the second episode, she keeps asking about 'The Three Caballeros', and initially mistakes Donald, Panchito and José for them. Once she learns of their death, she explains that Felldrake was assembling an army, and was stopped by The Three Caballeros.
It's probably just a mistake or something, but either Don de Pato (and Caballero Carioca on that tree) should be further back or maybe what we see are other ancestors? Food for thought, at least.
Next up, we have Clinton's second cousin, Clara Calhoun:
I've seen multiple sources referring to her as 'Clara Cahoon', but I'm near certain it's 'Calhoun'. She's not credited in the episode proper, nor do any of the translated credits seem to refer to her - the only thing there is to go on is the English subtitles. Those have been wrong before, though. I got her name in the relevant languages - it's really difficult to make out the Brazilian Portugues, Dutch and Danish ones, though. In French and German, the 'L' comes through very clearly, which further implies to me the English name should be 'Calhoun'.
Finally, I think it's worth revisiting some ancestors discussed previously:
First is this set - we know that some of them are based on existing relatives, or seem to be at least. Patrasco seems to be Swash McBuckle, Artur Mac Pato is near definitely King Maillard the Ruffled, Pitecus Patus seems to be Oogbog McDuck? There's some I'm not too sure of, though; you'd think 'Sir Quackius Patinhas' was supposed to be Paperon McPaperon, but in my Brazilian Portuguese copy of that story, he's simply named 'Mac Patinhas'. I think it's worth trying to figure this one out while there's a bit of a lull - are they all from different stories? If so, which ones are the ones unaccounted for from?
Next, there's this page from S 86182 (Taken from drakeborough's post in the Mystery Ducks on the Gilles Maurice Tree thread):
Again, I'm no expert, but I believe we're at a stage now where Paperardo Cuor di Leone, Paperin Errante and Penna D'Usignolo should be reconsidered. At the very least, I feel it's worth bringing them up again, seeing as we're bringing up older ancestors regardless
Apologies for another longpost, just throwing out everything of note that I have in mind while there's a lull
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I've looked through the ancestors in the Brazilian pages above, and have translated them and made some comments:
PATRASCO (1616-1858):"Pirata frances, atacava e saqueava navios e enterrava seus tesouros. Se vivesse atuaimente, estaria comercializando fitas de video... piratas, e ciaro!" "French pirate, attacked and looted ships and buried their treasures. If he were alive today, he would be selling video tapes... pirated, of course!"
This one is interesting; it's very clearly Swash McBuckle from S 72351, but it seems to ignore his turn to being an honest man.
ARTUR MAC PATO (1493-1549):"Consequiu arrancar uma espada encravada numa rocha. Pudera! A espada era de ouro. Ele a levaria com rocha e tudo!" "He managed to pull out a sword embedded in a rock. I wish! The sword was gold. He would take her rock and all!"
The picture is clearly King Maillard the Ruffled from D 7156. Unless there was an explanation in the Brazilian version, it seems that the story was made up solely for a gag here.
SIR GLUTONIUS PATINHAS (1460-1507): "Ovelha negra da familia, esbanjou sua fortuna nos melhores restaurantes do mundo. E olha que ele nao dava gorjetas!" "Black sheep of the family, he squanders his fortune in the best restaurants in the world. And he didn't tip!"
Supposed to be Sir Roast McDuck. Not sure when the editorial was published, but maybe the design came before Rosa's?
SIR ILDO PATINHAS (926-946):"Pereceu no cerco dos saxões, pois recusou-se a dar combate ao inimigo. É que ele nunca deu nada praninguém!" "He perished in the siege of the Saxons, as he refused to fight the enemy. It's just that he never gave anything to anyone!"
Supposed to be Sir Eider - the description is correct, as is the name.
SIR QUACKIUS PATINHAS (1160-1205):"O maior tocador de gaita de foles da Escócia. Nunca se separava dela... da gaita!" "The greatest bagpipe player in Scotland. Never parted from it... the bagpipes!"
This one comes across a little oddly to me, but maybe it's just how it's translated. The name is that of Sir Quackly. No idea about the bagpipes, unless that's mentioned in the Brazilian version of The Old Castle's Secret?
GIOVANNI PATO (1260-1315):"Viajou incógnito na comitiva de Marco Polo. Foi ele quem fez os verdadeiros negócios da China." "Traveled incognito in Marco Polo's entourage. It was he who did the real business for China."
I'm not sure for this one - matching other details, it might have been intended to be Paperon y Paperonios... but that obviously isn't right, since he went on Columbus' ship, not Polo's. I checked the Brazilian version I have, and it wasn't translated differently or anything. So either this is a massive mistake or meant to be somebody else.
TUTU PATINHÁS (1380-1300 a.C.):"Criou uma nova utilidade para a sua piramide, transformando-a um caiza-forte. Tinha uma fortuna piramidal!" "He created a new use for his pyramid, transforming it into a vault. He had a pyramidal fortune!"
No idea for this one - the closest that comes to mind is Pah-Peh-Rheo, but neither the name (Brazilian version I have says 'Pah-Tih-Nhas') nor the appearance remotely match. Either it was supposed to be him and there was a complete error or it's someone else.
PITECUS PATUS (5300-5248 a.C.):"Foi incompreendido em sua época (idade da pedra) por só pensar a ouro." "He was misunderstood in his time (the Stone Age) for thinking only in gold."
Seems to be either Oogbog or the other cave duck from ZD 60-07-17. You could argue that they only made their inventions because they wanted gold, but the description, again, seems to be a gag.
PATINIUS (100-42 a.C.):"Participou com Júlio César da campanha da Caledonia (Escócia). Piagiando seu comandante exclamou: 'Vini, vidi, vici!' (Vim, vi, venci!) Ficou, criou ovelhas e enriqueceu!" "Participated with Julius Caesar in the campaign of Caledonia (Scotland). Whispering his commander exclaimed: 'Vini, vidi, vici!' (I came, I saw, I won!) He stayed, raised sheep and became rich!"
Patinius is the Brazilian name of Petronius Paperonius, but that's where the similarities end. He looks nothing like Petronius, and the Caesar stand in is 'César Pateticus', so I'm not sure if they're intended to be the same.
XÁ PATINHAS (480-426 a.C.):"Foi quando surgiu a expressão "colher de xá", que ele nao dava pra ninguem!" "That's when the expression "spoon of shah" appeared, which he wouldn't give to anyone!"
Not sure - somewhat reminiscent of Scrooge-Shah, but there are too many differences for it to be the same character, I think. That being said, as with Patinius, the name does match the Brazilian name, so probably supposed to be the same character?
That's everything I could glean from the Brazilian editorial - if anyone has any further insight on anything I missed, feel free to add!
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SIR QUACKIUS PATINHAS (1160-1205):"O maior tocador de gaita de foles da Escócia. Nunca se separava dela... da gaita!" "The greatest bagpipe player in Scotland. Never parted from it... the bagpipes!"
This one comes across a little oddly to me, but maybe it's just how it's translated. The name is that of Sir Quackly. No idea about the bagpipes, unless that's mentioned in the Brazilian version of The Old Castle's Secret?
Sir Quackius Patinhas is indeed the name of the ghost in the Brazilian version of The Old Castle's Secret.
"Gaita" could also mean "money" in some Brazilian and Portuguese slang; probably is the point - to say that Sir Quackius Patinhas never parted from the money.
TUTU PATINHÁS (1380-1300 a.C.):"Criou uma nova utilidade para a sua piramide, transformando-a um caiza-forte. Tinha uma fortuna piramidal!" "He created a new use for his pyramid, transforming it into a vault. He had a pyramidal fortune!"
No idea for this one - the closest that comes to mind is Pah-Peh-Rheo, but neither the name (Brazilian version I have says 'Pah-Tih-Nhas') nor the appearance remotely match. Either it was supposed to be him and there was a complete error or it's someone else.
Could be from this story, Zio Paperone e il tesoro di Tutank-Paperon; I have that story, but I can't find it now, to see how the Scrooge ancestor (or at least look-alinke) is named in the Portuguese version.
New update for the tree on the website (version 10)! Many more generations have been added, so the tree goes now all the way back to prehistoric times. I used dotted lines to indicate when there are many generations in between relatives.
Madam Mim and her relatives have also been added. I included the relatives from Spooks and Magic, but I didn’t include any relatives of Medusa from any other sources. I didn’t know in what time Madam Mim is actually supposed to be born, so she is now just in the same generation as her cousin Cleopatra VII.
Any relatives from the Shanghai Tree have not yet been added. These can maybe be added later once we have decided if they should be on it or not. Here is the detailed list of all changes:
Angus O’Paper from I PM 180-2 was added as a brother of Downy O’Drake. On the tree he is named Angus O’Drake.
Willem from H 86106 was added as great-great-grandfather of Willie Leeghwortel.
Warren Quacken from I TL 3322-5 was added as a grandfather of the “ye gossip duck”.
Clara Calhoun from Legend of the Three Caballeros was added as a granddaughter of a sibling of Els.
Ottmar, Signhild, Tiburtius and Frideborg from D 2001-174 were added as children of Cinabro Coot. Their uncle Benedikt was also added.
Tapirio Scozio from I TL 531-A was added as the husband of a granddaughter of Braised McDuck.
Martin McMountain from D 2003-040 was added as the husband of a sister of Paperett Custar.
Paperardo “Cuor di Leone” McDuck from S 86182 was added as the son of Swamphole. Paperin “Errante” McDuck was added as the grandson of Swamphole. Penna “d’Usignolo” McDuck was added as the father of Arpagon McDuck.
Daisy’s aunt from YD 58-04-21 was moved to the 15th century.
Juan Duck from W LVD 3-03 was removed.
Juicy MacDuich from CB OIL 132 was added as an uncle of Smokt MacDuich.
Eider MacDuich was added as the grandfather of Smokt.
Duncan MacDuich from D 2022-056 was added as a nephew of Eider.
The unnamed MacDuich ancestor helping the Vikings to defeat the Picts from D 91308S was added as the father of Eider.
Another MacDuich ancestor from D 91308S was added has the grandfather of Eider.
The MacDuich ancestor from D 91308S who almost became king was added as the great-grandfather of Eider.
The MacDuich ancestor from D 91308S selling candles was added as the great-great-grandfather of Eider.
A 10th century McPaper ancestor from I TL 659-B was added to the McPaper branch.
Patinhaf from B 810040 was added by being an ancestor of the wife of Slye MacDuich.
Paper-Papper from S 72267 was added as the father of Patinhaf
Drago Drakesen from H 25327 was added as the father of Paper-Papper. Drago’s father Henning, his brother Bjørnefar, his nephew Tailpin and his grandnephews were also added.
The MacDuich ancestor from D 91308S from 400 AD was added as an ancestor of the MacDuich branch.
The McDuck Clan Land ancestors from W DD 107-02 were added as ancestors of the above.
The MacDuich ancestor from D 91308S selling stones to Hadrian was added as the father of the above.
Alexander McDuck from S 64107 was added as ancestor of the above.
Scrugulus Fulliautomatus from I AT 120-A was added as a grandfather of Alexander McDuck.
Paperodlon from I TL 1800-AP was added as an ancestor of the above.
Paperasso from I TL 1800-AP was added as the grandfather of Paperodlon. Paperasso’s nephew Paperosso and his three grandnephews were also added.
Paperakis from I TL 2097-4 was added as an ancestor of Paperasso.
Anatruccolos from I TL 1800-AP was added as an ancestor of Paperakis.
Paperonios and his nephew Rhinos from I TL 1800-AP were added as ancestors of Paperakis.
Pyramidus McDuck from I TL 1017-B was added as an ancestor of Alexander McDuck.
Papergamesh from I TL 2003-1 was added as an ancestor of Paperonios. His nephew Donaldidu and grandnephews Tickim, Tickam and Tickom were also added (using their German names).
Scrooge-Shah from W US 71-01 was added as the grandfather of Papergamesh. His nephew Donduk and his grandnephews were also added.
Paperonius (Italian name) and his uncle Dagoklaas (German name) from I TL 1998-C were added as ancestors of Scrooge-Shah.
Oogbog McDuck from ZD 60-07-17 was added as an ancestor of Pyramidus McDuck.
Donald, his three nephews, his cousin, his uncle Dagobert and his grandmother from I TL 2007-4 were added (using their Dutch names) as ancestors of Oogbog.
Paperuth McDuck from I TL 1017-B was added as an ancestor of the above.
Bubba McDubba from the DuckTales reboot series was added as an ancestor of Paperuth.
Muk-Duk from W MD 19-01 was added as an ancestor of Bubba McDubba.
Scrooge’s ancestors inventing the canoe and the bow/arrow from ZD 60-07-17 were both added as ancestors via Scrooge’s Native American branch.
Paulino Duck (Paulino Paperino) from I TL 592-A was added as an ancestor the paladin. Paulino’s uncle Dagobert (his German name) was also added.
Andold Temerary Wild Duck from I AT 228-A was added as another ancestor of the paladin. Aydis from I AT 277-A was added as his wife.
Sinbad Duck and his wife Deysi from I TL 1519-B were added as other ancestors of the paladin.
Paolinus Paperinus Anaticulus and his uncle emperor Paperonius Anas from I TL 2144-1 were added as ancestors of the Duck branch
The Roman general and his three nephews from I TL 1530-B were added as anecestors of the above.
Paper-Ingenuos, his uncle Paper-Oneros, and his three nephews from I TL 1800-AP were added as ancestors of the above.
Paperinion and his nephews Quis, Quod and Quam from I TL 1800-AP were also added as ancestors of the Roman general.
Paper-Iris from I TL 1800-AP was added as the ancestor of Paper-Oneros.
Paperasia from I TL 2030-2 was added as ancestor of Paperinion. Her uncle Paperocle, her grandmother, her cousin/husband Papereo, great-aunt Papereide and great-grandmother Paperippa were also added.
Donald’s ancestor from I PM 221-1 was added as ancestor of Paperasia and Papereo. His uncle was also added.
Papirina, Papirino and their uncle Papirine from I TL 2709-6 were added as ancestors the above.
Paperino from the Paperino Agente Segreto Preistorico series (I TL 1909-D is the first one published) was added as ancestor of the above. Paperino’s uncle Paperone, Paperino’s nephews, Paperino’s partner, Paperino’s grandmother and the nephew’s uncle Gustav were also added. There might be other relatives in this series as well.
The bird from D 2016-011 was added as an ancestor of the above.
The prehistoric relative of W DG 38-01 was added as a descendant of the above, born in the present time (generation 1).
Augustus Goose from S 64107 was added as the ancestor of Gus Goose.
Pena Rubra from B 810040 was added as Fethry’s ancestor.
The McPaper ancestors from Roman times (husband, wife and three children) from I TL 1849-B were added via the McPaper branch.
Mac Paperus from I TL 501-A was added as an ancestor via the Paperus branch.
Petronius Pah-Peh-Rheo Paperonius from I TL 750-A was added as an ancestor of Paperon McPaperon. His nephew Paulinus Paperinius, his niece Cleopat-Perina, his three grandnephews were also added, as well as Cleopat-Perina’s husband and her great-granddaughter Cleopatra VII. The image of Cleopatra VII is from D 92380. Cleopatra’s ancestor Ptolemy from D 92380 was added as the father of Cleopat-Perina.
Gastonius from I TL 2569-1 was added as a nephew of Petronius Paperonius.
Duckmammon from H 83089 was added as the ancestor of Petronius Paperonius.
Papersete, his three nephews and uncle Paperkamen from I TL 1800-AP were added as ancestors of Duckmammon.
Tut en Ka’duck from Walt Disney’s The Life of Donald Duck was added as ancestor of Duckmammon.
Paperamses and his three nephews Quit, Quot and Quat from I TL 2313-1 were added as ancestors of Tut en Ka’duck.
Paperistra from I TL 2105-4 was added as ancestor of Paperasia. Her husband Paperocrate, grandmother Duckatres and uncle Dagoteles were also added. The latter two have the German names, the other names are Italian.
Paperishtar from I TL 2095-3 was added as an ancestor of Paperocrate. Donaldinius (using his German name) was added as her husband.
Nefer-An-Antra and Donaldaton from I TL 2150-3 were added as ancestors of Paperishtar.
Paperiside and Paperbek from I TL 2071-3 were added as ancestors of Nefer-An-Antra.
Donalgorg, his wife, and her parents from B 860125 were added as ancestors of Paperiside.
Arkimedes Pitagorikon from I TL 750-A was added as an ancestor of the Pitagorikon Clan. His maternal great-grandfather Pitagora di Samo was also added.
Boom-Boom Gearloose from S 85139 was added as an ancestor of Gyro via the Gearloose branch.
Jason from W WDC 323-02P was added as an ancestor of Boom-Boom.
Disco Gearloose from S 85139 was added as an ancestor of Jason.
Willie Wortel (named Willie Gearloose in the tree), first appearing in H 2022-185, was added as the father of Disco.
Rockius Duckius from I TL 751-A was added as an ancestor of Duck McRocker.
Rockerduckius (Italian name) and his uncle Kleverduck (German name) from I TL 1998-C were added as ancestors of Rockius Duckius.
“Mad Madam” Mim, first appearance in The Sword in the Stone, was added as a cousin of Cleopatra VII.
Griezelda from H 95138 and H 2020-248 was added as a paternal aunt of Madam Mim.
Mingálvia, first appearance in B 790239, was added as a paternal aunt of Madam Mim.
Lucky, first appearance in W BB 1-03, was added as a son of Griezelda.
Euclides, Acácio and three other unnamed cousins from B 820360 were added as sons of Mingálvia.
Cordula from H 2017-213 was added as a paternal great-aunt of Madam Mim.
Minusa from B 810074 was added as a granddaughter of Cordula. Her son Ivã Mendonho from the same story was also added.
Lina from B 890009 was added as a sister of Ivã Mendonho.
Grim Grinta from S 67038 was added as a maternal uncle of Madam Mim.
“Mad” Maddy from the Descendants novels was added as a granddaughter of Madam Mim. Two other unnamed granddaughters of Madam Mim were also added.
Phyllis Diller from Spooks and Magic was added as a niece of Madam Mim. Her mother (“mummy”) was added as a sister of Madam Mim. Phyllis’ father and her uncle Harry, also from Spooks and Magic, were also added. Medusa (from Spooks and Magic, and The Haunted Mansion) was added added as an aunt of Phyllis.
Madam Mim’s prehistoric ancestor from B 800109 was also added and connected to Daisy’s ancestors from B 860125.
Truly, absolutely phenomenal work! I know there will still be work to do in future, but I definitely feel like we've achieved a wonderful milestone here. I'm honoured to have been and to continue to be a part of this amazing project! I'll have the spreadsheet updated ASAP; I've been away for the week, so I'm still getting readjusted, but I'll get things done as quickly as possible.
Also, while she's on the tree already, I'd like to add that I finally got the Australian version of 'A Carpet from Cleopatra' - and can confirm that Mim's cousin is the relevant Cleopatra:
It's not discussed in much detail - this is pretty much the whole thing - though in the final panel, Magica specifically says "And tell your cousin Cleopatra it was a lousy idea?" So while there's technically room for ambiguity, I think it's a fairly safe assumption. And, of course, the page above confirms the correct Cleopatra what with the references to Caesar.
Again, though, I just want to say excellent work and thank you to mkr and to everyone else that's taking part in this project - it's absolutely amazing to see it continue to unfold!
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New update for the tree on the website (version 10)! Many more generations have been added, so the tree goes now all the way back to prehistoric times. I used dotted lines to indicate when there are many generations in between relatives.
Amazing work. Simply beautiful! Even the pharaohs of ancient Egypt are now represented on the tree!
The roots of the tree stretching this far back reminds me of another ancestor. Gilles Maurice's Family Tree page features Asger Pedersen's Duck Family Tree. One of the most ancient ancestors on that tree is simply labeled the "Inventor of the Wheel". Who is that? Where is that ancestor from? Is he/she already on our tree?
New update for the tree on the website (version 10)! Many more generations have been added, so the tree goes now all the way back to prehistoric times. I used dotted lines to indicate when there are many generations in between relatives.
Amazing work. Simply beautiful! Even the pharaohs of ancient Egypt are now represented on the tree!
The roots of the tree stretching this far back reminds me of another ancestor. Gilles Maurice's Family Tree page features Asger Pedersen's Duck Family Tree. One of the most ancient ancestors on that tree is simply labeled the "Inventor of the Wheel". Who is that? Where is that ancestor from? Is he/she already on our tree?
I would imagine it's Oogbog, would it not be?
He wasn't named in every translation (For example, French) So perhaps the version he read simply wasn't named?
I'd be interested to see if it was someone else, though
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He wasn't named in every translation (For example, French) So perhaps the version he read simply wasn't named?
I'd be interested to see if it was someone else, though
Aah, I didn't think of that! However, the problem with this theory is that Pedersen's tree doesn't feature the other McDuck ancestors who appeared in the same Taliaferro strip. If he placed Oogbog on the tree, he would have placed the others as "Inventor of the Flintlock Musket" and "Inventor of the Native American boat thingy".
On a related note, is every ancestor on Pedersen's tree represented on our tree? I believe I added every post-1700-ancestors back in the day, but with this new "ancient expansion" maybe trees such as Pedersen's are worth a second look. (I still don't know who McHyre is!)
He wasn't named in every translation (For example, French) So perhaps the version he read simply wasn't named?
I'd be interested to see if it was someone else, though
Aah, I didn't think of that! However, the problem with this theory is that Pedersen's tree doesn't feature the other McDuck ancestors who appeared in the same Taliaferro strip. If he placed Oogbog on the tree, he would have placed the others as "Inventor of the Flintlock Musket" and "Inventor of the Native American boat thingy".
On a related note, is every ancestor on Pedersen's tree represented on our tree? I believe I added every post-1700-ancestors back in the day, but with this new "ancient expansion" maybe trees such as Pedersen's are worth a second look. (I still don't know who McHyre is!)
That's also a fair point - it's possible, albeit improbable, that Pedersen was only vaguely aware of ZD 60-07-17, and that's why he was only aware of Oogbog? There are explanations, but I'll admit that each one does raise several further questions.
Honestly, I do think you're right in that this warrants further investigation regardless!
As for Pedersen's tree, I definitely think there are some characters not present - I'll admit, my personal research only extended as far as what was in the article, so there's definitely more to be gleaned from the tree itself!
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